[PoliticalForum] The Lincoln Myth: Ideological Cornerstone of the America Empire

[plainolamerican]

Lincoln paid for his crimes the hard way.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] NEVER HIRE A MUSLIM (Reason #147 update)….especially not Somali Muslims

[plainolamerican]

... not so much fun seeing US xian politicians buddy up with zionist jews 
against the muzzies in our own nation.
Its time to purge these religious radicals from our nation.
Send'em to Guam!!!

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] NEVER HIRE A MUSLIM (Reason #147 update)….especially not Somali Muslims

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so muzzies and jews should not be forced to hire xians in America?
ok.

it's fun to watch the abrahamics persecute each other.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] First Ever Dearborn Muslim Running For Congress And Her Nasty Plans For America Were Just Exposed

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fear noted again.

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Fwd: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] PRESIDENTS JEFFERSON & JACKSON DIS...

[plainolamerican]

slave owners and indian killers ... shouldn't their monuments be torn down also?

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: What the heck is going on with Euwetopia???

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/27/technology/eu-google-fine.amp.html

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] ATTENTION PARENTS! Everything you need to teach your children about Islam

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Spot on ... even when committed by the US government that includes duel US 
Israeli citizens.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] macOS users beware: A new and nearly undetectable malware is on the rise

[plainolamerican]

still a mac hater, eh?
I've been a Mac user since 1986 and never had a virus or malware.
I'm sure it can happen ... it just hasn't happened yet.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] US Christian Soldiers Should Be FORCED To Bow To Islam? Army Says YES!

[plainolamerican]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfz2UlTpbBo

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[PoliticalForum] how dare a xian love a muzzie

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http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.801555

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Musk is a money sucking douche, but occassionaily on point

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Secular Progressives
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muzzling myth believing xian nationalists at every turn for a secular America.
 Trumps days are numbered.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] ATTENTION PARENTS! Everything you need to teach your children about Islam

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they bomb plenty ... and not with tiny body bombs.
So beheadings bother you, eh?
Don't complain about the way your enemy fights.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/mexicos-cartels-are-much-more-dangerous-to-americans-than-isis

 

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Muslim Nurses Refuse To Wash Hands Before Operations, Say It 'Compromises Religious Beliefs

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-ultra-orthodox-jewish-babies-keep-getting-herpes

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] ATTENTION PARENTS! Everything you need to teach your children about Islam

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdu7JPB3Hxo

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[PoliticalForum] Musk is a money sucking douche, but occassionaily on point

[plainolamerican]

There's more to life than making machines do things.

It's fun to laugh at people who trip and fall while walking with their face 
glued to a cell phone.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Check out To Liberals, the Very Idea of “Western Civiliz...

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Tucker says he doesn't know what white nationalism is ... he's a liar.

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[PoliticalForum] Re: Check out Terror-related acts committed by refugees widespread, accordin...

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Back in February, the Republican congressman from Wisconsin told 
 
CNN’s 
Alysyn Camerota that white terrorists of the far-right variety did not pose 
the same level of danger to Americans as so-called “Islamist” or “jihadist” 
terrorists. Why? “I don’t know, but I would just tell you there’s a 
difference,” proclaimed Duffy, who went on to dismiss as a “one-off” the 
attack 

 on 
a mosque in Quebec by a Trump-supporting 

 white 
nationalist, in which six Muslim worshippers were killed.

One-off? Seriously? Has Duffy been reading the news in recent days? On May 
20, Richard Collins III, a black, 23-year-old U.S. Army second lieutenant, 
was murdered 

 while 
visiting the University of Maryland by a member of a Facebook group called 
“Alt-Reich: Nation.” According to University of Maryland police chief David 
Mitchell, the group promotes “despicable” prejudice against minorities “and 
especially African-Americans.”
[image: QUEBEC,CANADA - JANUARY 29: Canadian security forces patrol after a 
shooting in the Islamic Cultural Centre of Quebec in Quebec city on January 
29, 2017. Five people are dead and a number of others wounded in a shooting 
at a mosque in Quebec City, the facility's president told media late 
Sunday. (Photo by Renaud Philippe/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)] 


Canadian security forces patrol after a fatal shooting in the Islamic 
Cultural Centre of Quebec in Quebec City on Jan. 29, 2017.
 

Photo: Renaud Philippe/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

On May 26, 53-year-old U.S. Army veteran Rick Best 

 and 
23-year-old recent university graduate Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche 

 were 
murdered, while 21-year-old poet Micah David-Cole Fletcher 

 was 
severely injured, by a knife-wielding white supremacist 

 when 
the three of them tried to prevent him from harassing a Muslim woman in a 
headscarf on their commuter train in Portland, Oregon.

Why isn’t Duffy back on CNN decrying the threat posed by such vile domestic 
terrorists? Why aren’t the Republican political and media establishments 
loudly alerting voters to the white-skinned far-right menace in their midst?

Can you imagine the tweetstorm from President Donald Trump if two U.S. 
soldiers — one serving, one a veteran — had been killed on U.S. soil by 
*Islamist* terrorists in the space of a single week? Can you imagine the 
rolling coverage on Fox News if it had been a ranting *Muslim* man who had 
slashed the throats of three Good Samaritans trying to protect two women on 
a train in Portland?

For far too long, those of us 

 who 
have warned of the threat from far-right, white supremacist terrorists have 
been accused of trying to shift attention away from the threat of ISIS and 
Al Qaeda — of acting as Muslim apologists.

For far too long, a veritable industry of politicians, pundits, and 
self-styled security “experts” have strived to minimize the domestic terror 
threat from far-right groups while inflating the threat from foreign 
jihadists.

Compare and contrast: Islamist terrorists are depicted as wild-eyed 
fanatics driven to kill by their religious faith or ideology, while 
far-right terrorists — be it the shooter 

 of 
two Hindus in a bar in Kansas in February, or the killer 
of 
nine black worshippers in a church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015, 
or the murderer 

 of 
six Sikh worshippers in a temple in Duffy’s own state of Wisconsin in 2012 
— are almost always “mentally ill 
.”
 
After the recent double murder in Oregon, it didn’t take long for Portland 
police spokesperson Pete Simpson to announce 

[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Muslims Sell Blacks For $200 At Open Slave Markets

[plainolamerican]

http://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-slaves-in-israel-global-study-finds/

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Snopes Carries Water for Muhammad

[plainolamerican]

the Abrahamic myth believers are a violent lot of animals.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Judaism/talmud_child_sex.htm

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2015/01/22/yes-the-bible-does-say-to-kill-infidels/

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Were Confederate Generals Traitors?

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I personally have no issue with honoring rebels in their states
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do you think native Americans should have an issue with statues of Custer or 
Jackson.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] No Room at the Inn for an Iftar Dinner

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very good!

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] No Room at the Inn for an Iftar Dinner

[plainolamerican]

Despite the relatively recent nature of these formal celebrations, the fact is 
that Islam’s presence in North America dates to the founding of the nation, and 
before, as my book, “Thomas Jefferson’s Qur'an: Islam and the Founders,” 
demonstrates.


Islam, an American religion

Muslims arrived in North America as early as the 17th century, eventually 
composing 15 to 30 percent of the enslaved West African population of British 
America. (Muslims from the Middle East did not begin to immigrate here as free 
citizens until the late 19th century.) Even key American Founding Fathers 
demonstrated a marked interest in the faith and its practitioners, most notably 
Thomas Jefferson.

As a 22-year-old law student in Williamsburg, Virginia, Jefferson bought a 
Qur’an—11 years before drafting the Declaration of Independence.

The purchase is symbolic of a longer historical connection between American and 
Islamic worlds, and a more inclusive view of the nation’s early, robust view of 
religious pluralism.


Although Jefferson did not leave any notes on his immediate reaction to the 
Qur’an, he did criticize Islam as “stifling free enquiry” in his early 
political debates in Virginia, a charge he also leveled against Catholicism. He 
thought both religions fused religion and the state at a time he wished to 
separate them in his commonwealth.

Despite his criticism of Islam, Jefferson supported the rights of its 
adherents. Evidence exists that Jefferson had been thinking privately about 
Muslim inclusion in his new country since 1776. A few months after penning the 
Declaration of Independence, he returned to Virginia to draft legislation about 
religion for his native state, writing in his private notes a paraphrase of the 
English philosopher John Locke’s 1689 “Letter on Toleration”:

“[he] says neither Pagan nor Mahometan [Muslim] nor Jew ought to be excluded 
from the civil rights of the commonwealth because of his religion.”


The precedents Jefferson copied from Locke echo strongly in his Virginia 
Statute for Religious Freedom, which proclaims:

“(O)ur civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions.”

The statute, drafted in 1777, which became law in 1786, inspired the 
Constitution’s “no religious test” clause and the First Amendment.
Jefferson’s pluralistic vision

Was Jefferson thinking about Muslims when he drafted his famed Virginia 
legislation?

Indeed, we find evidence for this in the Founding Father’s 1821 autobiography, 
where he happily recorded that a final attempt to add the words “Jesus Christ” 
to the preamble of his legislation failed. And this failure led Jefferson to 
affirm that he had intended the application of the Statute to be “universal.”

By this he meant that religious liberty and political equality would not be 
exclusively Christian. For Jefferson asserted in his autobiography that his 
original legislative intent had been “to comprehend, within the mantle of its 
protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan [Muslim], the 
Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination.”

By defining Muslims as future citizens in the 18th century, in conjunction with 
a resident Jewish minority, Jefferson expanded his “universal” legislative 
scope to include every one of every faith.

Ideas about the nation’s religiously plural character were tested also in 
Jefferson’s presidential foreign policy with the Islamic powers of North 
Africa. President Jefferson welcomed the first Muslim ambassador, who hailed 
from Tunis, to the White House in 1805. Because it was Ramadan, the president 
moved the state dinner from 3:30 p.m. to be “precisely at sunset,” a 
recognition of the Tunisian ambassador’s religious beliefs, if not quite 
America’s first official celebration of Ramadan.

A White House tradition

Muslims once again provide a litmus test for the civil rights of all U.S. 
believers. Even though this administration seems to have chosen not to continue 
the American political tradition of celebrating Ramadan at the White House, it 
is still a moment to remember that Islam has long been practiced in America.

Its adherents remain a pivotal part of our founding history. The very presence 
of Muslims in America, as American citizens, remains unacknowledged by the 
Trump administration, both in its speech in Saudi Arabia to “the Muslim world” 
and the president’s minimal statement marking Ramadan this month.

The ConversationToday, Muslims are fellow citizens, and their legal rights 
represent an American founding ideal increasingly besieged by fearmongering, 
precedents at odds with the best of our ideals of universal religious freedom.

Denise A. Spellberg is a Professor of History and Middle Eastern Studies at 
University of Texas at Austin

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] New York Times Shills for Al Jazeera

[plainolamerican]

http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/determined-marginalize-zionism/

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Texas imam fighting to make Google searches Sharia-compliant

[plainolamerican]

Google  ... christians kill Muslims ... and all you will find are returns 
showing Muslims killing Christians when in fact Christians are killing Muslims.

 Yep ... google is a pro-Zionist org.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] Watch how Muslim savages celebrate ‘Eid al Adha’ – the end of Ramadan – with barbaric animal sacrifice

[plainolamerican]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb3yGE6BfFQ

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Today's Do-Able: Heather Nauert

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just another Botox filled faux whore.

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[PoliticalForum] WWII Survivor Warns of SOCIALISM and GUN CONTROL! (MUST WATCH) - YouTube

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http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/why-jews-hate-guns.htm

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] FW: INFO NEWS

[plainolamerican]

its fun to watch xians and jews whine about the muzzies but even more fun to 
see the abrahamics kill each other.

the rest of the planet is sick of their warmongering and destruction.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] How to delete Google’s tracking cookies

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If you'd like to disable all history tracking for Google's services, follow the 
steps below. Note that pausing this feature may hinder certain performance 
aspects of some of your Google services.
>From the My Activity homepage, select Activity controls from the menu on the 
>left.
In the page that appears, look for the Web & App Activity section.
Click the pause Google History Pause icon and check mark Google checkmark icon 
icons to toggle them off.
When prompted, confirm your decision on each selection.
Tip: In the future, you can quickly access this section by going directly to 
the Activity controls section.
Tip: If you're not logged into any Google service, your web history is not 
logged.
Tip: Keep in mind that Google still logs every search query and associates each 
query with your IP address, even with this feature paused. However, disabling 
this feature will prevent anyone who has access to your computer and your 
Google login information from viewing your search history. Additional details 
about Google's Privacy policy can be found on their Privacy FAQ.

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[PoliticalForum] Re: [grendelreport] ICE Raids Dozens of Convenience Stores in MASSIVE Move… But Look What the Media's hiding ...

[plainolamerican]

A year-long investigation by the International Consortium of Investigative 
Journalists shows that tobacco company officials at BAT, Philip Morris, and 
R.J. Reynolds have worked closely with companies and individuals directly 
connected to organized crime in Hong Kong, Canada, Colombia, Italy, and the 
United States. In fact, one Italian government report obtained by the 
Center states that Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds licensed agents in 
Switzerland were high-level criminals who ran a vast smuggling operation 
into Italy in the 1980s that was directly linked to the Sicilian Mafia. 
Corporate documents, court records, and internal government reports — some 
going back to the 1970s — also show that BAT, Philip Morris, and R.J. 
Reynolds have orchestrated smuggling networks variously in Canada, 
Colombia, China, Southeast Asia, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and the 
United States as a major part of their marketing strategy to increase 
profits. The corporate documents refer to this black market business as 
"duty not paid," "parallel" markets, "general trade," or "transit." But 
these same documents often clearly delineate between this aspect of the 
business and legal trade. For example, one BAT official, in a 1989 letter 
to associates in Taiwan, said, "With regard to the definition of transit 
, it is 
essentially the illegal import of brands from Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, 
etc., upon which no duty has been paid."

The companies have sought to undercut rising government taxes, which 
studies show are the main reason most smokers quit, as well as to gain 
market share on their competitors or on government-controlled tobacco 
monopolies by offering competitively priced popular international brands on 
the black market. The result has been tax evasion on a global scale that 
has greatly depleted government treasuries, especially in Third World 
countries. Cigarette smuggling has also fostered international crime and 
money laundering and alarmed growing numbers of law enforcement officials 
worldwide. Attracted by huge profits, quick turnovers, a captive market, 
and relatively light penalties if caught, organized crime now controls 
large sectors of the smuggling.

"Organized criminals, who have traditionally been involved in smuggling 
illicit narcotics, are suddenly realizing that tobacco is a good thing to 
get into, as you make just as much money, and it's perhaps not quite as 
anti-social," Douglas Tweddle, the outgoing director for compliance and 
facilitation at the World Customs Organization in Brussels, told the 
Center. "The public generally aren't against you if you're selling smuggled 
cigarettes; in fact, they rather appreciate you. And if you get caught, in 
virtually all countries, the penalties for smuggling tobacco are a great 
deal less than smuggling heroin or cocaine." In the United States, 
cigarette imports have risen so dramatically that investigators are looking 
into whether the country is being used as a way station in the global 
smuggling trade. "Profits from cigarette smuggling rival those of narcotic 
trafficking," then-U.S. Customs Commissioner Raymond Kelly told Congress 
last year. "The United States plays an important role as a source and 
transshipment country."

The investigation by the Center's International Consortium of Investigative 
Journalists is based on a review of thousands of pages of corporate and 
government documents and dozens of interviews with law enforcement 
officials, smugglers, and other sources worldwide. It indicates that 
tobacco smuggling is increasingly dominated — often with the knowledge and 
consent of the tobacco companies — by a handful of criminal organizations 
that in some cases have links to organized crime. The Italian Mafia in 
Western Europe, East European gangs, Triads in Asia, drug cartels in 
Colombia, and motorcycle gangs and the American mafia in North America all 
have become entrenched in the game. Licensed distributors for the 
manufacturers feed these organized crime syndicates billions of cigarettes 
worldwide, often with corporate knowledge. "A primary driving force behind 
the proliferation of cigarette smuggling in both Colombia and Europe is the 
need of narcotics traffickers, Colombian, Russian, and others, to launder 
enormous amounts of money that can no longer be laundered through banks," 
said one recent court filing in a cigarette smuggling case.
The black market trade

It's estimated that about one in every three cigarettes exported worldwide 
is sold on the black market. This enormous business is operated through a 
web of offshore companies and banking institutions that often employ the 
same routes and distributors. Russian and Italian mafia use Cyprus and 
Montenegro. The drug cartels and U.S. mafia use Aruba and Panama. The same 
names turn up in smuggling networks into Colombia, Canada, and Europe. In 
Southeast Asia, the same distributors

[PoliticalForum] Kathy Griffin's Next Photo Shoot

[plainolamerican]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oYx5KYzcGA

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] DIFFERENCE OF THE 2 MEETINGS FROM THESE PICTURES

[plainolamerican]

Opinion noted and laughed at.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAShJNTXcAAhU4t.jpg

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] The Underreported Success of the Trump Presidency

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Trump is a Zionist asshole who is arming Muslims and Jews and nobody blinks.
 He'll be lucky to live one more year.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] DIFFERENCE OF THE 2 MEETINGS FROM THESE PICTURES

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAShJNTXcAAhU4t.jpg

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Amazing Arab essay on how the Arabs have screwed everything up for decades

[plainolamerican]

For more than two thousand years Jews lived in Arab countries
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that was until they extorted America into funding a nation for zionists.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: Check out Berkeley Police Say Violence '99% Likely' If Ann Coulter Speak...

[plainolamerican]

Ann's a coward.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] George Carlin Mercilessly Mocks Liberals Trying to Save the Planet!

[plainolamerican]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLrcsKrPjuJkrPW_JmvIM40JC-TeQIrS3y&v=gPOfurmrjxo

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Islamophobia is a good fear. Get it! Spread it!

[plainolamerican]

It's good to see the Abrahamics living in fear.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] The Muslim Brotherhood: Know Thy Enemy

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fear noted and laughed at.

where's your fear of zionists with keys to the front door of the White House?

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Easter – Jihad Style

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BOO!!!

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] Good luck finding a safe VPN

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Some people have too much to hide

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Finally a president with a set of balls

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 I agree. Their wars are not worth one American life or tax dollar.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Finally a president with a set of balls

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I am opposed to us getting involved
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Very good!

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Re: [PoliticalForum] It just gets better.

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[image: Image result for militant christianity]\
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[image: Image result for militant christianity]


On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 9:25:41 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> There's no war,  just finally an acknowledgement and a rejection  by the 
> majority of Americans.
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:50 AM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> Americans have figured the Secular Progressive camp out
>> ---
>> your war on the secular is futile.
>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] It just gets better.

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Americans have figured the Secular Progressive camp out
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your war on the secular is futile.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Here's how to fix healthcare

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Americans have a right to the best available health care that they can afford!
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that is the goal.

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[PoliticalForum] Re: [grendelreport] Where is the America I grew Up In?

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*The America I knew growing up is rapidly disappearing.*
*---*
*what opened your eyes?*
*was it the multitude of US companies hiring illegals and foreign workers 
over American citizens with impunity?*
*or was it seeing schools and the media embrace diversity and 
multiculturalism rather than a phobic white xian society with a history of 
all sorts of evil?*
*or was it seeing Wikileaks expose the US government illegally spying on 
Americans and committing other crimes that still haven't been exposed?*

*Law and order is being replaced by mob rule. *
*---*
*opinion noted.*

[image: media infographic]

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 7:56:48 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Where is the America I grew Up In?*
>
> By Constitution.com  March 
> 22, 2017 
>
> By Joe David 
> 
>
> *The America I knew growing up is rapidly disappearing. Law and order is 
> being replaced by mob rule. A madness has claimed the country, introduced 
> in recent years by hate groups who are dedicated to using violent protests 
> to cause political instability. In a frenzy of madness, often triggered by 
> just an innuendo, these groups want to crush all opposition to their 
> agenda.*
>
> For astute observers of our culture, this doesn’t come as a surprise. Our 
> great universities, which were once citadels of reason, a safe place for 
> open discourse, have abandoned both – and they have become instead centers 
> for cultivating insurrection, with minimal tolerance for truth and clear 
> thinking.
>
> As a result of the events in the last eight years, I have come to the 
> conclusion that my beloved country – the land of liberty, once ruled by 
> freedom of speech, law and order, and a constitutional government – is 
> being irreparably compromised by rebellion. In just a matter of a few 
> years, many Americans have tossed aside sense and have joyfully embraced 
> mob violence (examples, *Berkeley University* 
> 
> ,* inauguration riots* 
> 
> , *Michael Savage attack,* 
> 
>  and 
> much, much more). The lessons in history on the fall of great nations have 
> all been ignored – for those lucky enough to have once learned these 
> lessons in school.
>
> Every scheme that man could conceive to break a nation is being used today 
> by agitators (i.e., followers of *Saul Alinsky* 
> ) in 
> their eagerness to wipe away our liberties and independence in their move 
> toward complete political control.
>
> The strong, proud country of yesteryear, which once produced wealthy 
> entrepreneurs and productive workers, is rapidly vanishing. Its citizens 
> are demanding entitlement programs over honest employment, and, to get 
> their way, they are using divisive rhetoric and action. Progressive leaders 
> have spawned a lazy generation of lazy parasites who expect everything to 
> be given to them – from housing and food to university education and 
> medical plans. (Several supporters: *Bernie Sanders* 
> 
> , *Elizabeth Warren* 
> , and other 
> left-wingers.)
>
> What few resources that haven’t been squandered on federal aid programs 
> (international and domestic) are insufficient to sustain us for long. 
> America has seriously been weakened by poor management, and today it faces 
> the world, impoverished and vulnerable, a cripple on broken crutches about 
> to collapse (from the load of a *nearly 20-trillion-dollar National debt* 
> ).
>
> Reaching this state didn’t occur overnight nor was it a result of one or 
> two leaders. It was achieved over the years by the focused efforts of 
> universities committed to turning students into *social reformers* 
>  obsessed with 
> deconstructing a great nation To quote David Horowitz in his March 14, 
> 2017, letter to his readers, we have reached this point “through silent 
> planning, crafty messaging using pop culture as their vehicle, and the 
> subtle brainwashing of the most impressionable group of people in our 
> society – students.”
>
> Our great universities aren’t completely to blame for what is happening in 
> our country. If they were, their mistakes and deceits would have been 
> exposed and corrected by a fair-minded media. Unfortunately

[PoliticalForum] Re: [New post] Cowards – and bast*rds: Networks censor rape of 14-year-old girl in Maryland by an illegal alien

[plainolamerican]

Networks censor rape of 14-year-old girl---Two Rockville High students 
arrested for allegedly raping classmate at ... 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...raping-14-year-old.../a31cf300-0b30-11e7-924c-25...
7 days ago - A 14-year-old girl was raped in a bathroom stall during the 
school day, ... Sanchez, a native of Guatemala who arrived in the United 
States ...
Rockville High School Rape Case Gets Drawn Into Immigration ... 

https://www.usnews.com/.../officials-man-charged-in-school-rape-entered-us-illegally


   1. 
   


3 days ago - ... say one of two students charged with raping a 14-year-old girl 
in a high school bathroom in Maryland entered the United States illegally.

Gov. Hogan 'Outraged' Over Rape of 14-Year-Old Girl in Maryland ... 

www.nbcwashington.com/.../Gov-Hogan-Outraged-Over-Rape-of-14-Year-Old-Girl-i...


   1. 
   


3 days ago - Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said he is "outraged by the brutal 
and violent rape" of a 14-year-old girl at Rockville High School last week.





On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 5:09:56 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
> DCG posted: " The narrative must not be destroyed…even if an American 
> citizen (child) is raped and sodomized. Shame, shame, SHAME on the State 
> Run Media (SRM). Attention SRM: Read the police report here. The VICTIM of 
> this rape by an illegal alien had her 14-year-ol" 
> Respond to this post by replying above this line 
> New post on *Fellowship of the Minds* 
>  Cowards – and bast*rds: 
> Networks censor rape of 14-year-old girl in Maryland by an illegal alien 
> 
>  by 
> DCG  
>
> The narrative must not be destroyed…even if an American citizen (child) is 
> raped and sodomized. Shame, shame, SHAME on the State Run Media (SRM). 
> Attention SRM: Read the police report here. The VICTIM of this rape by an 
> illegal alien had her 14-year-old anus penetrated by the illegal alien’s 
> penis. She replied “stop” several times […]
>
> Read more of this post 
> 
> *DCG * | March 23, 2017 
> at 7:30 am | Tags: #buildthewall 
> , ABC 
> , CBS 
> , El Salvador 
> , Guatemala 
> , Larry Hogan 
> , Maryland 
> , Montgomery County 
> , Montgomery 
> County Police 
> , Montgomery 
> County Public Schools 
> , 
> NBC , Rockville High School 
> , sanctuary 
> state , State Run 
> Media  | 
> Categories: Children , 
> crime , Culture War 
> , D

Re: [PoliticalForum] Welcome to London: We can say we’re not afraid, light candles and make hearts of our hands but the truth is that we can’t go on like this, says KATIE HOPKINS

[plainolamerican]

It's time that we come to the realization that Islam Is:   (A)  Not A 
Religion
---
wrong again.

*Islam* (/ˈɪslɑːm/ ;[note 
1]  Arabic 
: الإسلام‎‎, IPA: 
[alʔisˈlaːm]  ( 
 listen 
)) is 
an Abrahamic  
monotheistic  religion 
 which professes that there is only one 
and incomparable God  (Allah 
)[1] 
 and that Muhammad 
 is the last 
 messenger of God 
.[2] 
[3] 
[4] 
[5] 
[6] 
 It is 
the world's second-largest religion 
[7] 
 and the 
fastest-growing 
major religion in the world 
,[8] 
[9] 
[10] 
with over 1.7 billion 
followers[11] 
 or 23% 
of the global population,[7] 
 known as Muslims 
.[12] 
 

*Religious Zionism* (Hebrew 
: צִיּוֹנוּת דָּתִית‎, translit. 
 *Tziyonut Datit*, or 
דָּתִי 
לְאוּמִּי‎ *Dati Leumi* "National Religious", or כִּיפָּה סְרוּגָה‎ *Kippah 
seruga*, literally "knitted skullcap") is an ideology that combines Zionism 
 and observant Judaism 
.

Before the establishment of the State of Israel 
, Religious Zionists were mainly 
observant Jews who supported Zionist efforts to build a Jewish state 
 in Palestine 
, or the Land of Israel 
.

After the Six-Day War  and the 
capture of the West Bank , a 
territory referred to in Jewish terms as Judea and Samaria 
, right-wing components of 
the Religious Zionist movement integrated nationalist revindication and 
evolved into Neo-Zionism .

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Bull Hockey Brine.
>
> It's time that we come to the realization that Islam Is:   (A)  Not A 
> Religion;  (B) Not A Religion of Peace; (C) Incompatible with Western 
> Culture. 
>
> Just because you or I may know some decent Muslims doesn't make what is 
> obvious, untrue.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Brian Bednarek  > wrote:
>
>> Th terrorist was 52 and English born, hard to throw out citizens!!! BBC 
>> said he had a history of violence, but nothing terror related ... this type 
>> of lone-wolf attack is impossible to prepare for!!!
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:25 PM, geoffrey theist > > wrote:
>>
>>> They can but it won't be pretty I'm afraid. Depends on how many they can 
>>> legally expel.
>>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2017 9:48 AM, "Keith In Tampa" >> > wrote:
>>>
 I am literally heart broken.  I have an affinity for all of Europa; 
 especially Germany, and Great Britain.  I fear that Europa will never 
 recover.

 Welcome to London: We can say we’re not afraid, light candles and make 
 hearts of our hands but the truth is that we can’t go on like this, says 
 KATIE HOPKINS 

 By KATIE HOPKINS FOR MAILONLINE 
 
   
 



 They stood in the centre of Brussels. Row on row.

 Hands h

[PoliticalForum] Re: [grendelreport] 5 Lethal American converts to Islam

[plainolamerican]

The FBI investigation into Israeli espionage agents in the Pentagon is part 
of a major struggle between prominent Zionists in the Pentagon and the US 
security apparatus. Ever since the Bush regime came to power there has been 
a fierce political and organizational war between the Pentagon Zionists and 
their militarist collaborators, on the one hand, and the professional 
military and intelligence apparatus, on the other. This conflict has 
manifested itself in a series of major issues including the war in the 
Middle East, the rational for war, the relationship between Israel and the 
US, the strategy for empire, as well as tactical issues like the size of 
military force needed for colonial wars and the nature of colonial 
occupation. From 9/11/2001 to the invasion of Iraq, the Pentagon Zionists 
and the civilian militarists had the upper hand: they marginalized the CIA 
and established their own intelligence services to “cook the data”, they 
pushed through the doctrine of sequential wars, beginning with Afghanistan 
and Iraq and projecting wars with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and 
other Muslim countries. The Pentagon Zionists increased Israel’s power in 
the Middle East and promoted its expansionist colonization of Palestine, at 
the expense of US soldiers, budget busting expenditures and CIA objections.

The US military and security apparatus has retaliated. First by debunking 
Zionist lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, then by exposing the 
role of Zionist client Ahmed Chalabi as a double agent for Iran, followed 
by a two-year investigation of Pentagon Zionists passing documents to 
Israeli military intelligence and the secret police, the Mossad.

More is at stake than a turf war between the ‘Israel First’ Pentagon crowd 
and their opponents in the US military, diplomatic corp and intelligence 
agencies. The fundamental issue is the freedom of the US people to decide 
or at least influence their political leaders and their appointees without 
being subject to the manipulation and control by a foreign government 
(Israel) and their highly placed agents in positions of power.

Israel has for decades subverted US foreign policy to serve its interests 
through the organized power of major Jewish organizations in the US. What 
is new in the current Pentagon spy case is that rather than pressuring from 
the outside to secure favorable policies for Israel, the Israel loyalists 
are in top positions within the government making strategic decisions about 
US global policy and providing their Israeli handlers with secret documents 
pertaining to top level discussions in the White House on questions of war 
and peace. Today the politics of Pentagon and AIPAC ( American Israel 
Public Affairs Committee ) espionage is especially dangerous ­ because what 
is at stake is a new US and/or Israeli war on Iran which will ignite the 
entire Middle East.

The move to high-level spying by top Zionist policy-makers like Douglas 
Feith, Elliott Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz and others in the Bush Administration 
is the culmination of a long series of strategic policies promoted by AIPAC 
designed to enhance Israeli expansionist goals in the Middle East.

Wolfowitz, Feith, Abrams, Perle, Rubin et al were the most zealous 
promoters of the war against Iraq. They worked closely with other Zionist 
ideologues like Bush speechwriter David Frum to promote the notion of “axes 
of evil”, to engage in a sequence of wars against Muslim regimes hostile to 
Israeli colonial policy in Palestine and beyond. Wolfowitz, Feith set up 
the parallel ‘intelligence’ agency (the Office of Special Planning) run by 
fellow Zionist Abram Shulsky using Chalabi to provide phony data on Iraq to 
precipitate that war. An army of ‘Israel First’ academic and journalist 
ideologues wrote, spoke and acted to justify the US attack on Iraq as the 
first part of a regional war to destroy any and all regimes critical of 
Israeli expansionism. Cohen, Rubin, Kristol, Foxman, Ledeen and many others 
provided “expert” propaganda on why US soldiers should kill and be killed 
for Greater Israel. Almost daily meetings and consultations took place 
between the top Zionists officials and the Israeli military and 
intelligence leaders in the offices of Feith and other Zionists. The 
Pentagon offices of Feith and Wolfowitz appeared to be an upscale bordello 
for high ranking Israeli officials. Judging from the subsequent policies it 
is clear that Pentagon Zionists took their cues from their Israeli 
counterparts ­ Israel was given greater funding, unlimited access to US 
policy makers and information pertaining to US policy in the Middle East. 
Meantime US intelligence and military officials were marginalized, their 
objections to Israeli positions blown away, their very presence seen as 
obstacles to realizing Sharon’s vision of a Greater Israeli ­ sharing (?) 
domination over the Middle East.

Given the high level of structural collaboration and inte

[PoliticalForum] Re: Planned Parenthood kills 1 unborn child every 97 seconds

[plainolamerican]

Planned Parenthood kills 1 unborn child every 97 seconds

[image: Image result for abortion good]

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 9:59:59 PM UTC-5, OhioMark wrote:
>
> Puts the nazis, Stalin, Mao and every other leftist despot to shame.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [New post] Former “Intercept” Reporter Arrested For Bomb Threats on Jewish Centers is…Muslim

[plainolamerican]

it's good to see the Abrahamics persecute each other rather than the logical 
and peaceful.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] The truth about the CIA and the covert war at home and abroad

[plainolamerican]

the men and women working secretly to protect us from Islamic terror. 
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warmongering mercs  are the enemy of everyone.

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[PoliticalForum] Fwd: [grendelreport] 64 ways Obama is sabotaging Trump

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 Obama is the least of Trump's problems.

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: [grendelreport] On Defining Religion

[plainolamerican]

I haven't a problem with Islam  the religion!  It's the ideology that is 
incompatible with Western Culture and United States Code; our States' and 
Federal Constitution.
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Rule of the Jewish Kehillah Grips New York

Are the Jews organized? Do they consciously pursue a program which on one 
side is pro-Semitic and on the other anti-Gentile? How can a group so 
numerically inferior wield so large an influence upon the majority of the 
world?

These are questions which have been asked and which can be answered. The 
clan solidarity of the Jew, the ramifications of his organizations, the 
specific purpose which he has in view, are themes upon which there is any 
amount of “say so,” but very little authoritative statement. It may 
therefore be useful and informing to study one or two of the more important 
Jewish organizations in the United States.

There are Jewish lodges, unions and societies whose names are well known to 
the public, and which seem to be the counterpart of similar groups among 
the non-Jewish population, but those are not the groups upon which to focus 
attention. Within and behind them is the central group, the inner 
government, whose ruling is law, and whose act is the official expression 
of Jewish purpose.

Two organizations, both of which are as notable for their concealment as 
for their power, are the New York Kehillah and the American Jewish 
Committee. By concealment is meant the fact that they exist in such 
important numbers and touch vitally so many points of American life, 
without their presence being suspected.

If a vote of New York could be taken today it is doubtful if one per cent 
of the non-Jewish population could say that it had ever heard of the New 
York Kehillah, yet the Kehillah is the most potent factor in the political 
life of New York today. It has managed to exist and mold and remold the 
life of New York, and very few people are the wiser. If the Kehillah is 
mentioned in the press, it is most vaguely, and the impression is, when 
there is any impression at all, that it is a Jewish social organization 
like all the rest.

The Kehillah of New York is of importance to Americans everywhere because 
of two facts: it not only offers a real and complete instance of a 
government within a government in the midst of America’s largest city, but 
it also constitutes through its executive committee District XII of the 
American Jewish Committee, through which pro-Jewish and anti-Gentile 
propaganda is operated and Jewish pressure brought to bear against certain 
American ideas. That is to say, the Jewish government of New York 
constitutes the essential part of the Jewish government of the United 
States.

Both of these societies began at about the same time. The records of the 
Kehillah state that the immediate occasion of its organization was to make 
a protest against the statement by General Bingham, then police 
commissioner of the City of New York, that 50 per cent of the crime of the 
metropolis was committed by Jews. There had been a government investigation 
into the “White Slave Traffic,” the result of which was a direct set of 
public opinion into channels uncomplimentary to the Jewish name, and a 
defensive movement was begun. There is no intention to rake up past 
scandals, unless it shall become necessary; it is enough to say here that, 
very soon afterward, General Bingham disappeared from public life, and a 
national magazine of power and influence which had embarked on a series of 
articles setting forth the government’s findings in the White Slave 
investigation was forced to discontinue after the printing of the first 
article. This was in the year 1908. The American Jewish Committee, to whose 
influence the Kehillah really owes its existence, came into being in 1906.

The word “Kehillah” has the same meaning as “Kahal,” which signifies 
“community,” “assembly” or government. It represents the Jewish form of 
government in the dispersion. That is to say, since destiny has made the 
Jews wanderers of the earth, they have organized their own government so 
that it might function regardless of the governments which the so-called 
“Gentiles” have set up. In the Babylonian captivity, in Eastern Europe 
today, the Kahal is the power and protectorate to which the faithful Jew 
looks for government and justice. The Peace Conference established the 
Kahal in Poland and Rumania. The Kahal itself is establishing its courts in 
the city of New York. The Kahal issues laws, judges legal cases, issues 
divorces—the Jews who appeal thereto preferring Jewish justice to the 
justice of the courts of the land. It is, of course, an agreement among 
themselves to be so governed; just as citizenship in the United States 
assumes an agreement to be governed by institutions provided for that 
purpose.

The New York Kehillah is the largest and most powerful union of Jews in the 
world. The center of Jewish world power has been transferred to that city. 
That is the meaning

[PoliticalForum] Re: [New post] 80-year-old Arab Muslim groom and his 12-year-old bride about to consummate their marriage in front of a crowd?

[plainolamerican]

[image: child-marriage-new-york-times-square-social-experiment.PNG]65-year-old 
man "marries" 12-year-old girl in Times Square social experiment YouTube/Coby 
Persin

Lawmakers in America are battling to overturn some of the country's most 
archaic laws, which stipulate that children as young as 12 can be married. 

In the state of Virginia, it is officially still legal for girls as young 
as 12 or 13 to be brought to a courthouse with evidence of a pregnancy and 
wed, a practice that has come under increased scrutiny thanks to the 
Virginia Senator Jill Vogel R-Fauquier. 

Legislation she introduced, which is now moving through the Virginia 
General Assembly, seeks to raise the minimum age for marriage to 16 to 
bring it in line with other states - and similar moves are under way in 
Maryland and New York, where 3,853 minors were married between 2000 and 
2010, according to State Health Department data published in the New York 
Times 

.

In Virginia itself, according to state health statistics, more than 4,500 
minors were married between 2000 and 2013, including about 220 who were 15 
or younger.

And a separate Statista  chart plotting the 
minimum legal age of marriage for girls worldwide reveals that the US is 
one of the lowest on record, with several places - including Massachusetts 
- allowing girls as young as 12 to be wed with the consent of a judge.

It is matched only by Saudi Arabia and Yemen, where age of consent for 
marriage ranges between nine and 13 years old. 
[image: Statistalegalmarriage-web.jpg]
Data source: World Policy Centre, State Department

“It’s rarely the case that the 13-year-old is marrying a 17-year-old,” Ms 
Vogel told Washington Top News 
.
 
 

”It’s more often the case that it is a child marrying somebody decades 
older than they are." 

Ms Vogel pointed out that often, young women who go on to be abused in 
early marriages are not old enough to go to court to get a protection order 
- and aren't even old enough to drive. 

She said officials should be looking out for what's in the child's best 
interests - not handing out marriage licenses. 

“Someone should be asking the question, ‘Well if this 13-year-old is 
pregnant, isn’t that evidence of statutory rape?’" Ms Vogel said. "Is that 
not a crime? They are truly victims in every way."
0:00
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2:14
 
Child Bride social experiment in New York City

Senate Bill 415, which passed in the Senate last month, has passed in a 
House sub-committee and in a full-committee and is due to face a vote. 

The bill would see those between 16 and 18 having to petition courts for a 
marriage license - at which point a judge would need to determine whether 
or not they were mature enough or were being coerced.

The judge could also grant emancipation as part of the petition, giving 
teens similar rights to adults under the law.

But Ms Vogel said she was surprised at what she found when researching 
marriage laws in other states, which she said acted as a "veil" to sex 
abusers to protect themselves from prosecution.
Meet Thea, Norway's 12-year-old child bride

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There is currently no minimum age for marriage in the Commonwealth.

In the UK legal consent can be given as young as 16 

[PoliticalForum] Re: [New post] Syrian refugee charged after ‘multiple sexual assaults’ at West Edmonton Mall waterpark

[plainolamerican]

The Child-Rape Assembly Line
[image: Christopher Ketcham] 

 
CHRISTOPHER KETCHAM 

 
Nov 11 2013, 11:00pm
Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat 
down with me to explain what he described as a "child-rape assembly line" 
among sects of fundamentalist Jews.

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat 
down with me to explain what he described as a "child-rape assembly line" 
among sects of fundamentalist Jews. He cleared his throat. "I'm going to be 
graphic," he said.

A member of Brooklyn's Satmar Hasidim fundamentalist branch of Orthodox 
Judaism, Nuchem designs and repairs mikvahs in compliance with Torah Law. 
The mikvah is a ritual Jewish bathhouse used for purification. Devout Jews 
are required to cleanse themselves in the mikvah on a variety of occasions: 
Women must visit following menstruation, and men have to make an appearance 
before the High Holidays, such as Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Many of the 
devout also purify themselves before and after the act of sex and before 
the Sabbath.

On a visit to Jerusalem in 2005, Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in 
one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city, Mea She'arim. "I opened a 
door that entered into a schvitz," he told me. "Vapors everywhere, I can 
barely see. My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, 
a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from 
him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex 
with this boy."

Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on: "This boy was 
speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying 
nothing. But on his face—fear. The old man [looked at me]* without* any 
fear, as if this was common practice. He didn't stop. I was so angry, I 
confronted him. He removed the boy from his penis, and I took the boy 
aside. I told this man, 'It's a sin before God, a *mishkovzucher*. What are 
you doing to this boy's soul? You're destroying this boy!' He had a sponge 
on a stick to clean his back, and he hit me across the face with it. 'How 
dare you interrupt me!' he said. I had heard of these things for a long 
time, but now I had seen."

The child sex abuse crisis in ultra-Orthodox Judaism, like that in the 
Catholic Church, has produced its share of shocking headlines in recent 
years. In New York, and in the prominent Orthodox communities of Israel and 
London, allegations of child molestation and rape have been rampant. The 
alleged abusers are schoolteachers, rabbis, fathers, uncles—figures of male 
authority. The victims, like those of Catholic priests, are mostly boys. 
Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn's Hasidic 
community—the largest in the United States and one of the largest in the 
world—have been victims of sexual assault perpetrated by their elders. Ben 
Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that 
advocates for Orthodox sex abuse victims, thinks the real number is higher. 
"From anecdotal evidence, we're looking at over 50 percent. It has almost 
become a rite of passage."

Ultra-Orthodox Jews who speak out about these abuses are ruined and 
condemned to exile by their own community. Dr. Amy Neustein, a 
nonfundamentalist Orthodox Jewish sociologist and editor of *Tempest in the 
Temple: Jewish Communities and Child Sex Scandals*, told me the story of a 
series of Hasidic mothers in Brooklyn she got to know who complained that 
their children were being preyed on by their husbands.

In these cases, the accused men "very quickly and effectively engage the 
rabbis, the Orthodox politicians, and powerful Orthodox rabbis who donate 
handsomely to political clubs." The goal, she told me, is "to excise the 
mother from the child's life." Rabbinical courts cast the mothers aside, 
and the effects are permanent. The mother is "amputated." One woman 
befriended by Dr. Neustein, a music student at a college outside New York, 
lost contact with all six of her children, including an infant she was 
breastfeeding at the time of their separation.

*Rabbi Rosenberg inspects a ritual purification bath, known as a mikvah. In 
2005, he witnessed a young boy being raped inside a similar bath.*

Seven years ago, Rabbi Rosenberg started blogging about sex abuse in his 
community and opened a New York City hotline to field sex abuse complaints. 
He has posted appeals on YouTube, appeared on CNN, and given speeches 
across the US, Canada, Israel, and Australia. Today, he is the lone 
whistleblower among the Satmar. For this he is reviled, slandered, hated, 
feared. He receives death threats on a regular basis. In Yiddish and Hebrew 
newspapers, advertisements taken out by the self-described "great rabbis 
and rabbinical judges of the city of New York" have denounced him as "a 
stumblin

Re: [PoliticalForum] Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

[plainolamerican]

wrong again, old ambulance chaser ... she belongs to your klan of abrahamic 
myth believers.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 9:59:43 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Your Peeps!
>
>
> ​
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 7:31 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> A new Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council will work to protect religious 
>> minorities' rights as well as other 'issues of common concern.'
>>
>> [image: A Muslim student speaks during a protest at the University of 
>> Connecticut in Storrs against the election of Trump as president, November 
>> 9, 2016.]
>>
>> A Muslim student speaks during a protest at the University of Connecticut 
>> in Storrs against the election of Trump as president, November 9, 2016. Pat 
>> Eaton-Robb, AP
>>
>> Less than a week after an election that left many minority and religious 
>> groups in the United States feeling disenfranchised, two important 
>> organizations – one Jewish and the other Muslim – announced an unusual 
>> alliance on Monday.
>> The American Jewish Committee and the Islamic Society of North America 
>> have teamed up to form a new national group of leading Jewish and Muslim 
>> Americans: The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council.
>> In a press release, the AJC said that the new group “brings together 
>> recognized business, political and religious leaders in the Jewish and 
>> Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common 
>> concern.”
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>> Read more on Trump and American Jews: President Trump has shattered Jews' 
>> American idyll (Chemi Shalev) | 'You deserve to be gassed': Hate crimes 
>> skyrocket after Trump win (Debra Nussbaum Cohen) | To the Trump voter who 
>> just told me to leave the country (Bradley Burston) | Rabbis and 
>> congregants take to New York streets to protest (Jennie Kamin) | Trump 
>> requests security clearance for son-in-law Jared Kushner in unprecedented 
>> move
>> The co-chairs of the 31-member council are Stanley Bergman, CEO of the 
>> Henry Schein healthcare company, and Farooq Kathwari, president and CEO of 
>> the Ethan Allen furniture company.
>> Among its initial “action items,” the press release said, will be to 
>> “develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and 
>> anti-Semitism in the U.S.” and to “protect and expand the rights of 
>> religious minorities” in the country.
>> “Our two communities share so much in common and should find ways, where 
>> possible, to work together for the benefit of the entire country,” said 
>> Bergman.
>> The council members include religious and lay leaders from both 
>> communities. Among the most prominent names on the membership list is 
>> Joseph Lieberman, the former senator who was the Democratic vice 
>> presidential candidate in 2000.
>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: The "anti-war" president? U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's Countries In 2016

[plainolamerican]

while it's true that I stopped fucking abrahamic myth believers years ago, 
I'd rather fuck her than than your wife, Mrs. KIT ...

[image: Image result for old jewish woman]

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 10:05:22 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> ​
> *Mrs. Plain Ol'*
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 8:46 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> oops ...
>>
>> [image: Image result for israel bombed scud missiles]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for leaving Jews out of this one, Psycho. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 6:54:01 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>>>
>>>> U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's 
>>>> Countries In 2016
>>>> ---
>>>> just more US terrorism at work.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Image result for US bomb vietnam]
>>>> [image: Related image]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 5:05:47 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan. 29, U.S. Special Operations Command launched a raid in Yemen 
>>>>> targeting 38-year-old Qassim al-Rimi, the leader of Al-Qaeda in the 
>>>>> Arabian Peninsula. This was the first high-profile special forces 
>>>>> operation 
>>>>> of Trump's presidency and it resulted in the deaths of at least 14 Al 
>>>>> Qaeda 
>>>>> fighters, over 20 civilians and Navy SEAL William "Ryan" Owens. Three 
>>>>> other 
>>>>> Americans were reportedly wounded while an Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft was 
>>>>> destroyed after a hard landing. It emerged in recent days that al-Rimi 
>>>>> survived the raid, and he released an audio message on Sunday taunting 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> president. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Raids like the one in Yemen are nothing new; U.S. special operations 
>>>>> troops have been embroiled in constant battle since 9/11 from the back 
>>>>> alleys of North Africa to the mountains of Afghanistan. However, the 
>>>>> majority of their missions around the globe are related to training local 
>>>>> troops to fight, mainly so Americans don't have to. Iraqi special 
>>>>> operations units such as the Golden Brigade which led the assault on 
>>>>> Mosul 
>>>>> learned their trade from their U.S. counterparts. American Green Berets 
>>>>> have also trained soldiers in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia on how to 
>>>>> counter Russian proxy warfare, should Moscow conduct similar operations 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> those seen in the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.
>>>>>
>>>>> American special forces deployed to 138 nations last year -- 70 
>>>>> percent of the world's countries. That's according to data from U.S. 
>>>>> Special Operations Command *published by TomDispatch* 
>>>>> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176227/tomgram%3A_nick_turse,_special_ops,_shadow_wars,_and_the_golden_age_of_the_gray_zone/>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> While the official data did not acknowledge military action on the ground 
>>>>> in Somalia, Syria and Yemen, there is overwhelming evidence to the 
>>>>> contrary 
>>>>> and those three nations were included in the overview. Some 55.29 percent 
>>>>> of the deployments were in the Middle East, a 35 percent drop since 2006. 
>>>>> During the same timeframe, deployments of elite troops to Africa 
>>>>> skyrocketed 1,600 percent.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Click below to enlarge (charted by Statista 
>>>>> <http://www.statista.com/>)*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/07/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-70-of-the-worlds-countries-in-2016-infographic/#6a1cf4fb7b74
>>>>>  
>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/07/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-70-of-the-worlds-countries-in-2016-infographic/#6a1cf4fb7b74>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 20170202_special_forces] 
>>>>> <http://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/02/20170202_Special_Forces.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>> -- 
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: the young brownshirt speaks.......

[plainolamerican]

the Secular Progressive movement wants to revise our history, because or 
Judeo-Christian heritage is completely unacceptable to them.  
---
keep your heritage ...  but leave our laws demanding a secular nation alone.

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On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 9:10:52 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> It's amazing isn't it Perp?
>
> I've often said that the Secular Progressive movement wants to revise our 
> history, because or Judeo-Christian heritage is completely unacceptable to 
> them.  What's telling is that most Secular Progressives have no clue about 
> our history, and contemporary history at that.
>
> Rebel, and most Euwetopians are classic examples.  They couldn't pass a 
> 7th Grade History or a Geography test
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
> politic...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you not realize what a fucking moron you are in referring to Miller or 
>> anyone else working in the Trump administration as a "brownshirt"?
>>
>> Obviously not.
>>
>> You LWNJs can't help showing the disdain you have for Jews at every turn. 
>> To trivialize what the brownshirts actually did by equating them to 
>> modern-day conservatives who hurt your feelings is deranged.
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 7:09:59 PM UTC-5, ImStillMags Mags wrote:
>>>
>>> www.facebook.com/MorningJoe/videos/10155049121733762/
>>>
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[PoliticalForum] Re: The "anti-war" president? U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's Countries In 2016

[plainolamerican]

oops ...

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On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> Thanks for leaving Jews out of this one, Psycho. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 6:54:01 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>
>> U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's 
>> Countries In 2016
>> ---
>> just more US terrorism at work.
>>
>> [image: Image result for US bomb vietnam]
>> [image: Related image]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 5:05:47 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan. 29, U.S. Special Operations Command launched a raid in Yemen 
>>> targeting 38-year-old Qassim al-Rimi, the leader of Al-Qaeda in the 
>>> Arabian Peninsula. This was the first high-profile special forces operation 
>>> of Trump's presidency and it resulted in the deaths of at least 14 Al Qaeda 
>>> fighters, over 20 civilians and Navy SEAL William "Ryan" Owens. Three other 
>>> Americans were reportedly wounded while an Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft was 
>>> destroyed after a hard landing. It emerged in recent days that al-Rimi 
>>> survived the raid, and he released an audio message on Sunday taunting the 
>>> president. 
>>>
>>> Raids like the one in Yemen are nothing new; U.S. special operations 
>>> troops have been embroiled in constant battle since 9/11 from the back 
>>> alleys of North Africa to the mountains of Afghanistan. However, the 
>>> majority of their missions around the globe are related to training local 
>>> troops to fight, mainly so Americans don't have to. Iraqi special 
>>> operations units such as the Golden Brigade which led the assault on Mosul 
>>> learned their trade from their U.S. counterparts. American Green Berets 
>>> have also trained soldiers in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia on how to 
>>> counter Russian proxy warfare, should Moscow conduct similar operations to 
>>> those seen in the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.
>>>
>>> American special forces deployed to 138 nations last year -- 70 percent 
>>> of the world's countries. That's according to data from U.S. Special 
>>> Operations Command *published by TomDispatch* 
>>> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176227/tomgram%3A_nick_turse,_special_ops,_shadow_wars,_and_the_golden_age_of_the_gray_zone/>.
>>>  
>>> While the official data did not acknowledge military action on the ground 
>>> in Somalia, Syria and Yemen, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary 
>>> and those three nations were included in the overview. Some 55.29 percent 
>>> of the deployments were in the Middle East, a 35 percent drop since 2006. 
>>> During the same timeframe, deployments of elite troops to Africa 
>>> skyrocketed 1,600 percent.
>>>
>>> **Click below to enlarge (charted by Statista 
>>> <http://www.statista.com/>)*
>>>
>>> *http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/07/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-70-of-the-worlds-countries-in-2016-infographic/#6a1cf4fb7b74
>>>  
>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/07/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-70-of-the-worlds-countries-in-2016-infographic/#6a1cf4fb7b74>*
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 20170202_special_forces] 
>>> <http://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/02/20170202_Special_Forces.jpg>
>>>
>>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: Maybe kalifornia would be having issues with their infrastructure if they hadn't been wasting money on supporting illegals

[plainolamerican]

450 churches prepare to act as Trump-era 'underground railroad' for ... 

www.rawstory.com/.../450-*churches*
-prepare-to-act-as-trump-era-underground-railroa...


   1. 
   


Dec 28, 2016 - 450 churches prepare to act as Trump-era 'underground 
railroad' for ... from Eastern Maryland to an Underground Railroad depot in 
Delaware Ca. ... The CIS maintains that undocumented workers undercut 
wages, take jobs ...
Churches Vow to Offer Sanctuary to Undocumented Immigrants | NBC ... 

www.nbclosangeles.com/.../*Churches*-vow-to-offer-sanctuary-to-
*undocumented*-*immi*...


   1. 
   


Dec 6, 2016 - Churches Vow to Offer Sanctuary to Undocumented Immigrants. 
During the ... Video188K Ordered to Evacuate Near Damaged Calif. Dam.
Churches Vow to Offer Sanctuary to Undocumented Immigrants | NBC ... 

www.nbclosangeles.com/.../*Churches*-vow-to-offer-sanctuary-to-
*undocumented*-*immi*...


   1. 
   


Dec 9, 2016 - Hundreds of houses of worship are offering sanctuary to 
people who could face deportation if President-elect Donald Trump follows 
through on ...
After recent ICE raids, sanctuary movement grows for immigrants here ... 

www.latimes.com/.../*california*/la-me-*immigration*
-sanctuary-revival-20160208-story


   1. 
   


Feb 8, 2016 - Morris, currently leading North Hills United Methodist Church, 
survived ... After recent ICE raids, sanctuary movement grows for immigrants 
here 
illegally ... NEWSLETTER: Get essential Californiaheadlines delivered daily 
>>.
Immigrants seek refuge in California churches - Washington Times 

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/may/30/*californias*-safe-house-soldiers/


   1. 
   


May 30, 2008 - One of the most dramatic stories in America's immigration 
saga occurs ... eight churchesto interview activists, pastors and the illegal 
immigrants ...
Berkeley, CA Church Gives Sanctuary To Immigrants Who Are About ... 

https://thinkprogress.org/berkeley-*ca*-*church*-gives-sanctuary-to-
*immigrants*-who-are-...

[PoliticalForum] Re: The "anti-war" president? U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's Countries In 2016

[plainolamerican]

U.S. Special Operations Forces Deployed To 70% (138) Of The World's 
Countries In 2016
---
just more US terrorism at work.

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On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 5:05:47 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> On Jan. 29, U.S. Special Operations Command launched a raid in Yemen 
> targeting 38-year-old Qassim al-Rimi, the leader of Al-Qaeda in the 
> Arabian Peninsula. This was the first high-profile special forces operation 
> of Trump's presidency and it resulted in the deaths of at least 14 Al Qaeda 
> fighters, over 20 civilians and Navy SEAL William "Ryan" Owens. Three other 
> Americans were reportedly wounded while an Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft was 
> destroyed after a hard landing. It emerged in recent days that al-Rimi 
> survived the raid, and he released an audio message on Sunday taunting the 
> president. 
>
> Raids like the one in Yemen are nothing new; U.S. special operations 
> troops have been embroiled in constant battle since 9/11 from the back 
> alleys of North Africa to the mountains of Afghanistan. However, the 
> majority of their missions around the globe are related to training local 
> troops to fight, mainly so Americans don't have to. Iraqi special 
> operations units such as the Golden Brigade which led the assault on Mosul 
> learned their trade from their U.S. counterparts. American Green Berets 
> have also trained soldiers in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia on how to 
> counter Russian proxy warfare, should Moscow conduct similar operations to 
> those seen in the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.
>
> American special forces deployed to 138 nations last year -- 70 percent of 
> the world's countries. That's according to data from U.S. Special 
> Operations Command *published by TomDispatch* 
> .
>  
> While the official data did not acknowledge military action on the ground 
> in Somalia, Syria and Yemen, there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary 
> and those three nations were included in the overview. Some 55.29 percent 
> of the deployments were in the Middle East, a 35 percent drop since 2006. 
> During the same timeframe, deployments of elite troops to Africa 
> skyrocketed 1,600 percent.
>
> **Click below to enlarge (charted by Statista )*
>
> *http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/07/u-s-special-operations-forces-deployed-to-70-of-the-worlds-countries-in-2016-infographic/#6a1cf4fb7b74
>  
> *
>
>
> [image: 20170202_special_forces] 
> 
>

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[PoliticalForum] Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

[plainolamerican]

A new Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council will work to protect religious 
minorities' rights as well as other 'issues of common concern.'

[image: A Muslim student speaks during a protest at the University of 
Connecticut in Storrs against the election of Trump as president, November 
9, 2016.]

A Muslim student speaks during a protest at the University of Connecticut 
in Storrs against the election of Trump as president, November 9, 2016. Pat 
Eaton-Robb, AP

Less than a week after an election that left many minority and religious 
groups in the United States feeling disenfranchised, two important 
organizations – one Jewish and the other Muslim – announced an unusual 
alliance on Monday.
The American Jewish Committee and the Islamic Society of North America have 
teamed up to form a new national group of leading Jewish and Muslim 
Americans: The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council.
In a press release, the AJC said that the new group “brings together 
recognized business, political and religious leaders in the Jewish and 
Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common 
concern.”
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Read more on Trump and American Jews: President Trump has shattered Jews' 
American idyll (Chemi Shalev) | 'You deserve to be gassed': Hate crimes 
skyrocket after Trump win (Debra Nussbaum Cohen) | To the Trump voter who 
just told me to leave the country (Bradley Burston) | Rabbis and 
congregants take to New York streets to protest (Jennie Kamin) | Trump 
requests security clearance for son-in-law Jared Kushner in unprecedented 
move
The co-chairs of the 31-member council are Stanley Bergman, CEO of the 
Henry Schein healthcare company, and Farooq Kathwari, president and CEO of 
the Ethan Allen furniture company.
Among its initial “action items,” the press release said, will be to 
“develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and 
anti-Semitism in the U.S.” and to “protect and expand the rights of 
religious minorities” in the country.
“Our two communities share so much in common and should find ways, where 
possible, to work together for the benefit of the entire country,” said 
Bergman.
The council members include religious and lay leaders from both 
communities. Among the most prominent names on the membership list is 
Joseph Lieberman, the former senator who was the Democratic vice 
presidential candidate in 2000.

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[PoliticalForum] Re: The funniest part of Gaga's performance?

[plainolamerican]

E... born this way?

I'm stumped. 
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work with what you've got.

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On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 9:40:18 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> She changes the lyrics in "Born This Way" to: "No matter gay, straight, or 
> bi, Lesbian, *transgendered* life."
>
>
> E... born this way?
>
> I'm stumped.   Plus I thought she really sucked.
>
> PS.  But the drone thing was cool.
>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: For every American killed by an illegal

[plainolamerican]

Open Borders Catholics Falsify Church Teaching—and Profit From It ... 

www.breitbart.com/.../*open*-*borders*-catholics-falsify-*church*
-teaching-and-profit-fro...


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   2. 
   


Sep 3, 2015 - Open Borders Catholics Falsify Church Teaching—and Profit 
>From It ... But the actions ofU.S. bishops in recent weeks are making it 
harder to ...
Pope Francis' border policy: it's more complicated than you think ... 

www.americamagazine.org/issue/popes-*border*-policy


   1. 
   


Feb 16, 2016 - Still, some characterize the church position as an “open 
border” policy ... as the Magna Carta on Catholic teaching on 
migration—wrote to U.S. ...
The Catholic Church's Teaching on Immigration Enforcement 

www.usccb.org › Issues and Action › Human Life and Dignity › Immigration


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   2. 
   


U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and U.S. Immigration and ... 
criticize the Catholic Church as supportive of "open borders" in an attempt 
to discredit the ...
The Coming Catholic Movement for Freedom of Migration | Open ... 

*openborders*
.info/blog/the-coming-catholic-movement-for-freedom-of-migration/


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   2. 
   


Jan 23, 2014 - Restrictionists would like us to believe that “securing the 
border” means  The ChristianChurch's first priority has always been to 
save souls, ...
5 thoughts on “Why don't Christians care more about open borders?” 

*openborders*.info/blog/why-dont-christians-care-more-about-*open*-*borders*
/


   1. 
   

   2. 
   


Jan 6, 2014 - Churches may pay migration lip service, but it seems like 
Christian  are to blindly follow the letter of God's instructions to us, 
we must abolish ...
In our opinion: Response to attack on LDS Church's immigration ... 

www.deseretnews.com/.../In-our-opinion-Deseret-News-responds-to-Breitbart-attack-...


   1. 
   


Aug 22, 2016 - Trump calls for 'complete shutdown' on Muslims entering US. 
On Saturday ... This language is hardly a call for “open borders.” Th

Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Nothing better than watching the tards heads explode

[plainolamerican]

why is your fake shyster law firm all jews?
--
I didn't make the graphic.


On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>
>  I thought it was DeweyCheatham & Howe why is your fake shyster law firm 
> all jews?
>
> On Jan 29, 2017 7:28 PM, "plainolamerican"  > wrote:
>
> keith ... a pos xian myth believing islamophobic warmonger for hire.
>
> [image: Image result for lawyers and prostitutes]
>
>
> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:10:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
>> WellThere's the Sissy Pus we've come to know the last couple of years!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:05 PM, plainolamerican  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace
>>> ---
>>> they do.
>>>
>>> what kind of award do you think they should give Trump for blowing his 
>>> own brains out?
>>> can we give the award to one of his trophy hunting sons or plastic wife?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:22:30 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace, tolerance, 
>>>> safe spaces, puppies, padded floors to roll around and throw tantrums on, 
>>>> adult diapers,all the things necessary to enable these folks to continue 
>>>> to 
>>>> act like spoiled fucking brats talk about white privilege
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 10:10 AM, "plainolamerican"  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: Image result for kill donald trump]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nonstop entertainment
>>>>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: In the interest of unity ----

[plainolamerican]

"Islam"; it is most definitely an ideology. which is entranced in a 
religious framework, but nevertheless is an ideology; a small segment of 
Islam conatitutes "Religion".  I'm confident you cannot prove me wrong.
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/islam

Islam
[is-lahm, iz-, is-luh m, iz-] 
Spell Syllables

   - Examples
   - Word Origin

noun
1.
the religious faith of Muslims, based on the words and religious system
founded by the prophet Muhammad and taught by the Koran, the basicprinciple 
of which is absolute submission to a unique and personal god,Allah.
2.
the whole body of Muslim believers, their civilization, and the countriesin 
which theirs is the dominant religion.

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:32:36 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> ​I note that you left half the sentence out of my post of your quote there 
> Sissy; (reminds me a lot of NBC/CNN, and you as of late.But I 
> digress...);  
>
> Yes, I believe and I think if one reviews the history of Islam, as well as 
> just an understanding of "Islam"; it is most definitely an ideology. which 
> is entranced in a religious framework, but nevertheless is an ideology; a 
> small segment of Islam conatitutes "Religion".  I'm confident you cannot 
> prove me wrong.
>
>
>
>
> this out of my post: ​
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:22 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> Islam is not a religion,
>> ---
>> ignorance noted.
>>
>> *Islam* (/ˈɪslɑːm/ 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English>;[note 
>> 1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-1> Arabic 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language>: الإسلام‎‎, *al-ʾIslām* 
>> IPA: [alʔisˈlaːm] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Arabic> ( 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ar-al_islam.ogg> listen 
>> <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Ar-al_islam.ogg>);[note 
>> 2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-2>) is a religion 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion> articulated by the Quran 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran>, a text 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_holy_books> considered by its 
>> adherents to be the verbatim <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verbatim> word 
>> of God <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Islam> (*Allāh*), and, for 
>> the vast majority of adherents, the teachings and normative example (called 
>> the *sunnah <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah>*, composed of 
>> accounts called *hadith <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith>*) of 
>> Muhammad <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_Islam> (c. 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circa>570–8 June 632 CE). It is the world's 
>> second-largest religion 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions>
>> [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-landscape-3> and the 
>> fastest-growing 
>> major religion in the world 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_religion>,[2] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-4>[3] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-Lippman-5>[4] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-6> with over 1.7 billion 
>> followers[5] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-gordonconwell.edu-7> or 
>> 23% of the global population,[1] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-landscape-3> known as 
>> Muslims <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim>.[6] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-8> Islam is an Abrahamic 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions> monotheistic 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism> religion that upholds that 
>> God is one and incomparable <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid>[7] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-9> and that the purpose 
>> of existence <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purpose_of_life> is to 
>> worship <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah> God.[8] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-10> Muslims consider 
>> Muhammad to be the last 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatam_an-Nabiyyin> prophet of God 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_and_messengers_in_Islam>.[9] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-StrongWilder2013-11>[10] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#cite_note-Renard2015-12>[11] 

Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Nothing better than watching the tards heads explode

[plainolamerican]

keith ... a pos xian myth believing islamophobic warmonger for hire.

[image: Image result for lawyers and prostitutes]

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 7:10:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> WellThere's the Sissy Pus we've come to know the last couple of years!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:05 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace
>> ---
>> they do.
>>
>> what kind of award do you think they should give Trump for blowing his 
>> own brains out?
>> can we give the award to one of his trophy hunting sons or plastic wife?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:22:30 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>
>>> Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace, tolerance, safe 
>>> spaces, puppies, padded floors to roll around and throw tantrums on, adult 
>>> diapers,all the things necessary to enable these folks to continue to act 
>>> like spoiled fucking brats talk about white privilege
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2017 10:10 AM, "plainolamerican"  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: Image result for kill donald trump]
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonstop entertainment
>>>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: In the interest of unity ----

[plainolamerican]

l system without prior authority from a rabbi. And Muslims can also 
have their inheritance, business, and matrimonial disputes sorted out by 
Islamic scholars, who attempt to decide them according to the sharia."[18] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_on_sharia_law#cite_note-kadri-279-80-18> 
While 
the US Congress could in theory repeal the act, it could not ban 
arbitration by Muslims while leaving other religious conciliators free to 
continue their work. "Any reform would have to impact equally on all faith 
communities, and it is not only Muslims who would object if federal 
legislators presumed to do that."[18] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_on_sharia_law#cite_note-kadri-279-80-18>

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:34:39 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Islam is not a religion, but rather an ideology which contains a small 
> snippet of religious doctrine.  A big distinction.  No matter, we still 
> don't allow for religions to trump federal or State laws, which Sharia 
> clearly does, and therefore incompatible with United States laws and 
> culture.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:20 AM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> We also might say there is a special place in hell for leftloons in the 
>> United States who whine about womens' rights in America while defending 
>> Islam, and never, EVER, criticizing Islam's barbaric treatment of women.
>> 
>>
>> The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and 
>> freedom, and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world's Muslims 
>> know that America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam.
>>
>> - "Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many 
>> contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in 
>> other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration 
>> are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's 
>> ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."
>>
>>
>>
>> *Remarks by the President on Eid Al-FitrThe Islamic Center of Washington, 
>> D.C.December 5, 2002*
>>
>> - "Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water 
>> during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and 
>> redirect their hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a 
>> hand of mercy to those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break 
>> their fast line the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and 
>> clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God's 
>> abundance. Muslims often invite members of other families to their evening 
>> iftar meals, demonstrating a spirit of tolerance."
>>
>>
>>
>> *Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr The Islamic Center of 
>> Washington, D.C.December 5, 2002*
>>
>> - "America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim 
>> friends, and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless 
>> individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, 
>> may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, 
>> pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global 
>> community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point 
>> the way to a brighter future for all."
>>
>>
>> *Presidential Message Eid al-FitrDecember 5, 2002*
>>
>> - "Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, 
>> and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to 
>> remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has 
>> benefited mankind."
>>
>>
>> *President's Eid al-Fitr Greeting to Muslims around the WorldDecember 4, 
>> 2002*
>>
>> - "Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. 
>> But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America 
>> stands for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we 
>> must work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united 
>> and tough, we'll prevail."
>>
>>
>>
>> *Press Conference by President Bush and President Havel of Czech 
>> RepublicPrague Castle, Prague, Czech RepublicNovember 20, 2002*
>>
>> - "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not 
>> reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most 
>> Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a 
>> peaceful religion, a religion that resp

[PoliticalForum] Re: What the hell happened to the left?

[plainolamerican]

a black catholic who doesn't like some of the liberals.

next ... 

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:10:13 AM UTC-6, Bear Guy wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.therebel.media/what_the_hell_happened_to_the_left
>
>
> Thatbearguy
> @Thatbearguy
>
>
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Nothing better than watching the tards heads explode

[plainolamerican]

Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace
---
they do.

what kind of award do you think they should give Trump for blowing his own 
brains out?
can we give the award to one of his trophy hunting sons or plastic wife?




On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:22:30 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> Plain Ole I thought people of your stripe promote peace, tolerance, safe 
> spaces, puppies, padded floors to roll around and throw tantrums on, adult 
> diapers,all the things necessary to enable these folks to continue to act 
> like spoiled fucking brats talk about white privilege
>
> On Jan 29, 2017 10:10 AM, "plainolamerican"  > wrote:
>
>> [image: Image result for kill donald trump]
>>
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>>>
>>> Nonstop entertainment
>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Trump Declares War On Sanctuary Cities

[plainolamerican]

 sought refuge in their church stayed there 461 days before 
her deportation order was halted.

"And again churches and congregations across the United States are standing 
up to say, this is not reflective of who we believe we are as a people and 
this is not reflective of our faith as Christians," Harrington says.

In that earlier era, the old Immigration and Naturalization Service came 
after activist pastors. The government, for instance, infiltrated Southside 
Presbyterian and convicted its minister, the Rev. John Fife, of "smuggling 
and harboring illegal aliens."

These days, if the government continues its controversial deportation 
policies, more churches are ready to step up. Church World Service says it 
knows of more than 300 congregations in 30 states eager to support the new 
sanctuary movement.

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:47:03 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> The Trump Administration I hope and pray will make no exceptionsThese 
> greedy non-religious organizations who have been inflicting damage on the 
> American people by promoting these illegal alien scams should be prosecuted 
> to the fullest extent of the law.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:17 AM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> Trump's battle against illegal immigrant sanctuary may end at church steps
>> [image: Brooke Singman] 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/person/s/brooke-singman.html>
>>
>> By Brooke Singman <http://www.foxnews.com/person/s/brooke-singman.html>
>>  Published November 23, 2016 
>>  FoxNews.com <http://www.foxnews.com/>
>> Facebook 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/23/trumps-battle-against-illegal-immigrant-sanctuary-may-end-at-church-steps.html#>
>>  Twitter 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/23/trumps-battle-against-illegal-immigrant-sanctuary-may-end-at-church-steps.html#>
>>  
>> livefyre 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/23/trumps-battle-against-illegal-immigrant-sanctuary-may-end-at-church-steps.html#>
>>  Email 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/23/trumps-battle-against-illegal-immigrant-sanctuary-may-end-at-church-steps.html#>
>>  Print 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/23/trumps-battle-against-illegal-immigrant-sanctuary-may-end-at-church-steps.html#>
>> [image: Mexican national Arturo Hernandez Garcia lived in the basement of 
>> First Unitarian Church in Denver for nine months last year, avoiding 
>> deportation and only emerging when immigration officials told him he was no 
>> longer a priority for deportation.]
>>
>> Mexican national Arturo Hernandez Garcia lived in the basement of First 
>> Unitarian Church in Denver for nine months last year, avoiding deportation 
>> and only emerging when immigration officials told him he was no longer a 
>> priority for deportation.  (Associated Press)
>>
>> President-elect Donald Trump is vowing to block federal funding to 
>> Sanctuary cities, but the incoming commander-in-chief may find it tougher 
>> to take on another powerful protecter of illegal immigrants -- sanctuary 
>> churches.
>>
>> Hundreds of houses of worship around the nation have pledged to provide 
>> safe harbor to illegal immigrants facing deportation, as have cities such 
>> as Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and New York City. While Trump may 
>> relish a policy and funding fight with the leaders of Democratic 
>> strongholds, imposing his administration’s will on churches could be 
>> another matter.
>>
>> “There is a long tradition in American law enforcement of not breaking 
>> into churches in order to arrest someone unless the person is wanted for an 
>> act of violence,” Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano 
>> told FoxNews.com. “In order for the police or for Immigration and Customs 
>> Enforcement to enter a church against the will of a priest or minister who 
>> is running the church, they need an arrest warrant for a specific human 
>> being –short of that, they’re not going to go in there.”
>>
>> In New York City alone, there are 11 congregations that offer sanctuary 
>> for illegal immigrants, and according to the Rev. Donna Schaper, senior 
>> minister of Judson Memorial Church, more could follow.
>>
>> “There has been a tremendous increase in interest since the election,” 
>> Schaper told FoxNews.com. “The newly elected president is threatening to 
>> deport many of them and they want to be safe—churches have a moral mandate 
>> to help people in a way that is different than cities in general.”
>>
>> Schaper is a founder of New Sanctuary Movement New Y

[PoliticalForum] Re: What Trump’s Wall Says to the World

[plainolamerican]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2bE2j3JOaQ

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>
>
> January 26, 2017
>
> *What Trump’s Wall Says to the World *By Patrick J. Buchanan
>
> “Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,” wrote poet Robert Frost in 
> the opening line of “Mending Walls.”
>
> And on the American left there is something like revulsion at the idea of 
> the “beautiful wall” President Trump intends to build along the 1,900-mile 
> border between the U.S. and Mexico.
>
> The opposition’s arguments are usually rooted in economics or 
> practicality. The wall is unnecessary. It will not stop people from coming 
> illegally. It costs too much.
>
> Yet something deeper is afoot here. The idea of a permanent barrier 
> between our countries goes to the heart of the divide between our two 
> Americas on the most fundamental of questions.
>
> Who are we? What is a nation? What does America stand for?
>
> Those desperate to see the wall built, illegal immigration halted, and 
> those here illegally deported, see the country they grew up in as dying, 
> disappearing, with something strange and foreign taking its place.
>
> It is not only that illegal migrants take jobs from Americans, that they 
> commit crimes, or that so many require subsidized food, welfare, housing, 
> education and health care. It is that they are changing our country. They 
> are changing who we are.
>
> Two decades ago, the Old Right and the neocons engaged in a ferocious 
> debate over what America was and is.
>
> Were we from the beginning a new, unique, separate and identifiable people 
> like the British, French and Germans?
>
> Or was America a new kind of nation, an ideological nation, an invented 
> nation, united by an acceptance of the ideas and ideals of Jefferson, 
> Madison, Lincoln and Dr. King?
>
> The Old Right contended that America existed even before the Revolution, 
> and that this new nation, this new people, wrote its own birth certificate, 
> the Constitution. Before Washington, Madison and Hamilton ever went to 
> Philadelphia, America existed.
>
> What forced the premature birth of the nation ­ was the Revolution.
>
> We did not become a new nation because we embraced Jefferson’s notion 
> about all men being “created equal.” We became a new people from our 
> familial break with the Mother Country, described in the declaration as a 
> severing of ties with our “brethren” across the sea who no longer deserved 
> our loyalty or love.
>
> The United States came into being in 1789. The Constitution created the 
> government, the state. But the country already existed.
>
> When the Irish came in the mid-19th century to escape the famine and the 
> Germans to escape Bismarck’s Prussia, and the Italians, Jews, Poles, 
> Greeks, Slovaks came to Ellis Island, they were foreigners who became 
> citizens, and then, after a time, Americans.
>
> Not until decades after the Great Migration of 1890-1920, with the common 
> trials of the Depression, World War II and Cold War, were we truly forged 
> again into one united nation and people.
>
> By 1960, almost all of us shared the same heroes and holidays, spoke the 
> same language and cherished the same culture.
>
> What those with memories of that America see happening today is the 
> disintegration of our nation of yesterday. The savagery of our politics, 
> exemplified in the last election, testifies to how Americans are coming to 
> detest one another as much as the Valley Forge generation came to detest 
> the British from whom they broke free.
>
> In 1960, we were a Western Christian country. Ninety percent of our people 
> traced their roots to Europe. Ninety percent bore some connection to the 
> Christian faith. To the tens of millions for whom Trump appeals, what the 
> wall represents is our last chance to preserve that nation and people.
>
> To many on the cosmopolitan left, ethnic or national identity is not only 
> not worth fighting for, it is not even worth preserving. It is a form of 
> atavistic tribalism or racism.
>
> The Trump wall then touches on the great struggle of our age.
>
> Given that 80 percent of all people of color vote Democratic, neither the 
> Trump movement nor the Republican Party can survive the Third Worldization 
> of the United States now written in the cards.
>
> Moreover, with the disintegration of the nation we are seeing, and with 
> talk of the breakup of states like Texas and secession of states like 
> California, how do we survive as one nation and people?
>
> Old Europe never knew mass immigration until the 20th century.
>
> Now, across Europe, center-left and center-right parties are facing 
> massive defections because they are perceived as incapable of coping with 
> the existential threat of the age ­ the overrunning of the continent from 
> Africa and the Middle East.
>
> President Trump’s wall is a statement to the world: This is our country. 
> We decide who comes here. And we will defend our 

Re: [PoliticalForum] Ten Myths About Immigration

[plainolamerican]

In summary, an estimated 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants were living 
in the United States in January 2012 compared to 11.5 million in January 
2011. These results suggest little to no change in the unauthorized 
immigrant population from 2011 to 2012. Of all unauthorized immigrants 
living in the United States in 2012, 42 percent entered in 2000 or later. 
Entrants since 2005 accounted for 14 percent of the total. Fifty-nine 
percent of unauthorized immigrants in 2012 were from Mexico.

[image: PDF icon] Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population 
Residing in the United States: January 2012 


I. Introduction

[image: Farm Workers near Bakersfield, California]
Farm Workers near Bakersfield, California
Source: Victor Davis Hanson, "Incoherent Immigration Reform," 
nationalreview.com, Feb. 7, 2013.
Who are the immigrants in the United States illegally? Where do they come 
from? In which states do they settle? What jobs do they hold? 

As of 2012, the population of immigrants in the United States illegally is 
estimated to be approximately 11.43 million, roughly 3.7% of the entire US 
population. 59% of the immigrants in the country illegally are from Mexico, 
and 25% of all immigrants in the country illegally reside in California. 
53% of the immigrants in the United States illegally are male. In 2008, 
approximately 31% of workers in the roofing industry and 27% of 
maids/housekeepers were immigrants living in the country illegally. 

The demographic statistics below are based on estimates created by the US 
Department of Homeland Security, the US Immigration and Naturalization 
Service, and the Pew Hispanic Research Center.

II. Top 10 Countries of Origin (2000-2012) of Immigrants Living in the 
United States Illegally
[image: Top 10 Countries of Origin, 2000-2012]

Top 10 Countries of Origin, 2000-2012
2000
Country Population
1. Mexico 4,680,000
2. El Salvador 430,000
3. Guatemala 290,000
4. Philippines 200,000
5. China 190,000
6. Korea 180,000
7. Honduras 160,000
8. India 120,000
9. Ecuador 110,000
10. Brazil 100,000
All Countries 8,460,000

2005*
Country Population
1. Mexico 5,970,000
2. El Salvador 470,000
3. Guatemala 370,000
4. India 280,000
5. China 230,000
6. Philippines 210,000
7. Korea 210,000
8. Honduras 180,000
9. Brazil 170,000
10. Vietnam 160,000
All Countries 10,500,000

2008
Country Population
1. Mexico 7,030,000
2. El Salvador 570,000
3. Guatemala 430,000
4. Philippines 300,000
5. Honduras 300,000
6. Korea 240,000
7. China 220,000
8. Brazil 180,000
9. Ecuador 170,000
10. India 160,000
All Countries 11,600,000

2012
Country Population
1. Mexico 6,720,000
2. El Salvador 690,000
3. Guatemala 560,000
4. Honduras 360,000
5. Philippines 310,000
6. India 260,000
7. Korea 230,000
8. China 210,000
9. Ecuador 170,000
10. Vietnam 160,000
All Countries 11,430,000



Sources and Notes:

Sources:

1. Bryan Baker and Nancy Rytina, "Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant 
Population Residing in the United States: January 2012" 

 Mar. 
2013

2. Michael Hoefer, Nancy Rytina, and Bryan C. Baker, "Estimates of the 
Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 
2008"  Feb. 2009

3. Michael Hoefer, Nancy Rytina, and Christopher Campbell, "Estimates of 
the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: 
January 2005", Aug. 2006 

Notes: 

*Estimates were not developed by the United States Department of Homeland 
Security in 2004, so we used their 2005 estimates. 

**Supplemental documents of unauthorized immigrant populations from 
1990-2000, released by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS): 
"Illegal 
Alien Resident Population"  
 
Dec. 
2001


III. Top 10 States of Residence (2000-2012) of Immigrants Living in the 
United States Illegally
[image: Top 10 States of Residence, 2000-2012]

Top 10 States of Residence, 2000-2012
2000
Country Population
1. California 2,510,000
2. Texas 1,090,000
3. Florida 800,000
4. New York 540,000
5. Illinois 440,000
6. New Jersey 350,000
7. Arizona 330,000
8. North Carolina 260,000
9. Georgia 220,000
10. Nevada 170,000
40 other states 1,750,000
Total 8,460,000

2005*
Country Population
1. California 2,770,000
2. Texas 1,360,000
3. Florida 850,000
4. New York 560,000
5. Illinois 520,000
6. Arizona 480,000
7. Georgia 470,000
8. New Jersey 380,000
9. North Carolina 360,000
10. Nevada 240,000
40 other states 2,510,000
Total 10,500,000

2008
Country Population
1. California 2,850,000
2. Texas 1,680,000
3. Florida 840,000
4. New York 640,000
5. Arizona 560,000
6. Illinois 550,000
7. Georgia 460,000
8. New Jersey 400,000
9. North Carolina 380,000
10. Nevada 280

Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: All the tards at euwe's boards have gone off the deep end

[plainolamerican]

All the proverbial "Neo-Cons" are Euwetopians these days!
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*DECEMBER 09, 2011 *  ADMIN   1 COMMENT 
<https://americanfreepress.net/7-nations-on-neocon-hit-list/#comments>

*By James P. Tucker Jr.*

Some 10 years before the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and 
Washington, D.C., top neoconservatives in the Pentagon orchestrated a major 
“policy coup” to start wars with multiple Middle Eastern countries and 
secure total domination of the Middle East. That’s according to a top 
former United States military officer.

In a speech in San Francisco, top General Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr. 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark> recounted a memo drafted by 
former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s office in the wake of 9-11 that 
was brought to his attention by a top Pentagon official. The neocons’ plot, he 
was told <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw>, was “to attack and 
destroy the governments in seven countries in five years—we’re going to 
start with Iraq, and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, 
Somalia, Sudan and Iran.” Clark said the neocons “wanted us to destabilize 
the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” 

While 9-11 provided an excuse for broadening the wars, neocons were 
plotting a decade earlier for regime changes across the Middle East.

Clark cites a 1991 conversation with Defense official Paul Wolfowitz, who 
said <http://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream>: “One 
thing we did learn [from the Iraq wars] is that we can use our military in 
the region, in the Middle East, and the Soviets won’t stop us. . . . And 
we’ve got about five or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet 
regimes—Syria, Iran, Iraq—before the next great superpower comes on to 
challenge us.”

Shocked, Clark responded to Wolfowitz at the time by asking: “The purpose 
of the military is to start wars and change governments? It’s not to deter 
conflicts?”

 

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 5:26:54 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> All the proverbial "Neo-Cons" are Euwetopians these days!
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:03 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> All the tards at euwe's boards have gone off the deep end
>> --
>> while the neocons are getting ready for war.
>>
>> [image: Image result for US soldiers dead]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>>
>>> I have no use for that board anymore, now that most all the intelligent 
>>> ones, conservatives,  have left. But I will pop in from time to time just 
>>> to see how insane the fools have gotten. Their insanity is way way out 
>>> there. I refuse to interact with the inmates, but I do observe. 
>>
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[PoliticalForum] Re: All the tards at euwe's boards have gone off the deep end

[plainolamerican]

All the tards at euwe's boards have gone off the deep end
--
while the neocons are getting ready for war.

[image: Image result for US soldiers dead]




On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>
> I have no use for that board anymore, now that most all the intelligent 
> ones, conservatives,  have left. But I will pop in from time to time just 
> to see how insane the fools have gotten. Their insanity is way way out 
> there. I refuse to interact with the inmates, but I do observe. 

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: question

[plainolamerican]

I think it's the deluge of immigrants, both legal and illegal, pouring into 
Western Nations. 
---

The *Immigration Act of 1990* (Pub.L. 101–649 
, 104 Stat. 
 4978 
, enacted November 29, 1990) was 
signed into law by George H. W. Bush 
 on November 29, 1990.[1] 
 It was 
first introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy 
 in 1989. It was a national 
reform of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 
. It 
increased total, overall immigration to allow 700,000 immigrants to come to 
the U.S. per year for the fiscal years '92–'94, and 675,000 per year after 
that.[2] 

 It 
provided family based immigration visa, created five distinct employment 
based visas, categorized by occupation, as well as the diversity visa 
program which created a lottery to admit immigrants from "low admittance" 
countries [3] 

 or 
countries where their citizenry was underrepresented in the U.S.

Besides these immigrant visas there was also changes in nonimmigrant visas 
like the H-1B visa  for highly 
skilled workers. There were also cutbacks in the allotment of visas 
available for extended relatives.[4] 

 The Temporary protected status 
 visa was also 
created where Congress established a procedure by which the Attorney 
General may provide TPS to immigrants in the United States who are 
temporarily unable to safely return to their home country because of 
ongoing armed conflict, an environmental disaster, or other extraordinary 
and temporary condition. It specifically benefited citizens of El Salvador 
.[2] 


Other aspects of the act include lifting the English testing process for 
naturalization which was imposed in the Naturalization Act of 1906 
 [5] 
 
and 
eliminating the exclusion of homosexuals under the medically unsound 
classification of "sexual deviant" that was present in the passage of the 
1965 Act.[6] 

 George 
H. W. Bush is quoted in saying "I am also pleased to note that this Act 
facilitates immigration not just in numerical terms, but also in terms of 
basic entry rights of those beyond our borders."[7] 
 The 
administration, therefore, saw the importance of this amendment in 
extending a welcoming to those previously excluded nations/individuals.

Contents  [hide] 

   - 1Family reunification 
   
   - 2Job-based immigration 
   
   - 3Diversity Immigrant Visas 
   

   - 4Comments from the Bush Administration 
   

   - 5Non-immigrant visas 
   
   - 6Significance 
   
   - 7References 
   

Family reunification[edit 

]

Family reunification remained a priority as it had been in the Immigration 
and Nationality Act of 1965 
. 
This act expanded the number of family-based immigration visas allotted per 
year to 480,000 but to do this it also made the definition of family more 
exclusive by limiting it to immediate family members.[4] 

Job-based immigration[edit 

]

Job-based immigration was divided amongst five occupational categories in 
the 1990 Immigration act (in the 

[PoliticalForum] Re: In the interest of unity ----

[plainolamerican]

We also might say there is a special place in hell for leftloons in the 
United States who whine about womens' rights in America while defending 
Islam, and never, EVER, criticizing Islam's barbaric treatment of women.


The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and freedom, 
and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world's Muslims know that 
America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam.

- "Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many 
contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in 
other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration 
are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's 
ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."



*Remarks by the President on Eid Al-FitrThe Islamic Center of Washington, 
D.C.December 5, 2002*

- "Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during 
daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their 
hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to 
those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line 
the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and clothing and money 
are distributed to ensure that all share in God's abundance. Muslims often 
invite members of other families to their evening iftar meals, 
demonstrating a spirit of tolerance."



*Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr The Islamic Center of Washington, 
D.C.December 5, 2002*

- "America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim friends, 
and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless 
individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, 
may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, 
pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global 
community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point 
the way to a brighter future for all."


*Presidential Message Eid al-FitrDecember 5, 2002*

- "Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and 
to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to 
remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has 
benefited mankind."


*President's Eid al-Fitr Greeting to Muslims around the WorldDecember 4, 
2002*

- "Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But 
ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands 
for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must 
work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and 
tough, we'll prevail."



*Press Conference by President Bush and President Havel of Czech 
RepublicPrague Castle, Prague, Czech RepublicNovember 20, 2002*

- "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect 
the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, 
as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a 
religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and 
we welcome people of all faiths in America."



*Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a 
meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi AnnanThe Oval Office, Washington, 
DCNovember 13, 2002*

- "We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on 
Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on 
man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with 
us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."



*President Hosts Iftaar Dinner Remarks by the President at Iftaar 
DinnerState Dining Room*

- "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We 
respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy 
doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great 
religion."



*Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to 
Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office 
Building, Washington, D.C.October 11, 2002*

- "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead 
lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."



*Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to 
Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office 
Building, Washington, D.C.October 11, 2002*

- "All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true 
faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion 
people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of 
every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."



*President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American 
Leaders Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.September 10, 2002*

- "If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank an

[PoliticalForum] Re: Trump Declares War On Sanctuary Cities

[plainolamerican]

Trump's battle against illegal immigrant sanctuary may end at church steps
[image: Brooke Singman] 


By Brooke Singman 
 Published November 23, 2016 
 FoxNews.com 
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[image: Mexican national Arturo Hernandez Garcia lived in the basement of 
First Unitarian Church in Denver for nine months last year, avoiding 
deportation and only emerging when immigration officials told him he was no 
longer a priority for deportation.]

Mexican national Arturo Hernandez Garcia lived in the basement of First 
Unitarian Church in Denver for nine months last year, avoiding deportation 
and only emerging when immigration officials told him he was no longer a 
priority for deportation.  (Associated Press)

President-elect Donald Trump is vowing to block federal funding to 
Sanctuary cities, but the incoming commander-in-chief may find it tougher 
to take on another powerful protecter of illegal immigrants -- sanctuary 
churches.

Hundreds of houses of worship around the nation have pledged to provide 
safe harbor to illegal immigrants facing deportation, as have cities such 
as Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and New York City. While Trump may 
relish a policy and funding fight with the leaders of Democratic 
strongholds, imposing his administration’s will on churches could be 
another matter.

“There is a long tradition in American law enforcement of not breaking into 
churches in order to arrest someone unless the person is wanted for an act 
of violence,” Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano told 
FoxNews.com. “In order for the police or for Immigration and Customs 
Enforcement to enter a church against the will of a priest or minister who 
is running the church, they need an arrest warrant for a specific human 
being –short of that, they’re not going to go in there.”

In New York City alone, there are 11 congregations that offer sanctuary for 
illegal immigrants, and according to the Rev. Donna Schaper, senior 
minister of Judson Memorial Church, more could follow.

“There has been a tremendous increase in interest since the election,” 
Schaper told FoxNews.com. “The newly elected president is threatening to 
deport many of them and they want to be safe—churches have a moral mandate 
to help people in a way that is different than cities in general.”

Schaper is a founder of New Sanctuary Movement New York, an interfaith 
network of congregations that help to provide spiritual, financial, 
emotional and legal support to illegal immigrants. In some cases, those 
under the church’s protection move into the building and live there 
indefinitely.

Earlier this month, Javier Flores, a Mexican and father of three who has 
been deported multiple times, appeared at a news conference with clergy 
from Philadelphia’s Arch Street United Methodist Church, where he has been 
offered sanctuary.

“Today and every day, if Javier and his family choose to stay with us, they 
will have a home with us,” the Rev. Robin Hynicka told Religion News Service 

.

Since Trump’s Nov. 8 triumph over Hillary Clinton, the New Sanctuary 
Movement Philadelphia has been inundated with congregations clamoring to 
sign up, said Executive Director Peter Pedemonti.

“In Philadelphia, there is a continued wave of support for faith 
communities to stand up and say that deporting people and separating 
families is a violation of our faith values,” Pedemonti told FoxNews.com. 
“These policies call us to feed on the worst of humanities –our fears and 
divisions, and our role, as a faith community is to bring us to our best 
selves.”

Some advocates for illegal immigrants say it was President Obama’s 
aggressive deportation policies that first boosted the sanctuary church 
movement.

“We have already seen the deportation machine at work with over 2.5 million 
people deported under the Obama Administration,” Church World Service 
National Grassroots Coordinator the Rev. Noel Andersen said. “The keys to 
that machine are now being handed over to an Administration that has shown 
in their campaign rhetoric vitriolic language, and I think congregations 

[PoliticalForum] Re: God save the Queen

[plainolamerican]

fuck the queen and anyone who recognizes royalty.

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 1:50:49 PM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> In Fiji
>
>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: [New post] Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, with 6-ft walls constructed around his 700-acre Hawaiian estate, denounces President Trump’s policies on illegals and refugees

[plainolamerican]

Zuckerberg, with 6-ft walls constructed around his 700-acre Hawaiian 
estate, denounces President Trump’s policies on illegals and refugees
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Jews Demand Open Borders for USA, But Use DNA to Keep Israel Racially Pure
DECEMBER 20, 2013

Jews in America are 100 percent united in demanding “open borders” and 
“immigration reform”—but at the same time hypocritically support Israel 
which now uses DNA tests on potential immigrants in order to keep the 
Jewish state racially pure.

Just this past weekend, nearly 1,300 rabbis and a number of cantors from 
all streams of American Jewry joined together to call on the US Congress to 
pass comprehensive immigration reform.

In a letter sent to the Congress, which they also published on their website 
, 
the rabbis said that immigration reform was “in keeping” with the “Jewish 
High Holy Days” demand of “the spirit of self-examination as individuals 
and as a society.”

The letter was signed by leading clergy of the Reform, Conservative, 
Orthodox, and Reconstructionist movements and called for “common sense 
immigration reform” to reflect a “shared commitment to a path to 
citizenship, improved family reunification policies, humane and effective 
border security, sensible worker visa policies, and avenues for refugees 
and asylum seekers.”

The letter went on to say that Jewish history “coupled with the most-often 
repeated Biblical commandment to love the stranger inspires our advocacy 
for immigration reform…”
[image: Sammie Moshenberg, operations director of the Washington NJWC gives 
Communist salute during sit-in pro-immigration protest in D.C. this past 
week.]Sammie Moshenberg, operations director of the Washington NJWC gives 
Communist salute during sit-in pro-immigration protest in D.C. this past 
week.

This is not the only such statement by the organized Jewish community in 
America. Just this past week, the director of Washington operations for the 
National Council of Jewish Women, Sammie Moshenberg , was among more than 
100 activists arrested for a “sit-in” pro-immigration protest at the US 
Capitol building. 


The American Jewish Congress (AJC), the single largest Jewish organization 
in America, has a special advocacy group set up to promote “immigration 
reform.”

According to the AJC website devoted specially to promoting nonwhite 
immigration into America 
,
 
that Jewish organization boasts that it “promotes a fair and just 
immigration policy consistent with our position that a strong America is 
vital for global freedom and security.
READ  No Whites to Blame as All Liberian Students Fail University Admission 
Exam


[image: AJC1]

“National conflict over immigration undermines America’s strength and our 
country’s commitment to democratic and humanitarian values. With our shared 
immigrant experience, the Jewish people understand that upholding the 
rights of immigrants is vital to a strong America,” the AJC says.

An article in the Jewish newspaper, the *Daily Forward,* announced that “Jews 
Unite Behind Push for Immigration Reform 
”
 
and significantly added that “Ethics and Self-Interest Drive Unusual 
Nationwide Effort.”

[image: forward012]

The *Daily Forward* article says that those “leading an active push for the 
[immigration reform] bill, which will offer a path to citizenship for some 
of the nation’s 11 million undocumented aliens, include the Hebrew 
Immigrant Aid Society, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation 
League, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Bend the Arc and the 
National Council of Jewish Women.

“The Senate vote—and the even harder struggle that will follow in the 
Republican-controlled House—represents the fulfillment of a sustained 
campaign by the Jewish community for immigration reform, which has built 
momentum over the past decade.

Quoting the president and CEO  of an organization called the Hebrew 
Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)—which used to promote Jewish immigration, but 
now promotes all nonwhite immigration into America,  Mark Hetfield, the *Daily 
Forward* said Jews promoted immigration because it was in their ‘strategic 
interest.’

“It’s the ethical thing to do,” said HIAS president and CEO, of the 
community’s immigration reform activism. But he quickly added, “It’s in our 
strategic interest.”

However, in Israel—which all of these Jewish organizations and individuals 
quoted above support fanatically—an immigration policy which is the exact 
opposite is rigorously enforced.

Israel’s “Law of Return” immigration policy is actual

[PoliticalForum] Re: Nothing better than watching the tards heads explode

[plainolamerican]

[image: Image result for kill donald trump]

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC-6, OhioMark wrote:
>
> Nonstop entertainment

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Pussy Hat March

[plainolamerican]

[image: Related image]


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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:38:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> As stated in another thread:  "*Poor Sissy-PussStill Clueless.*."
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:48 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> you do support the entire Secular Progressive mindset
>> ---
>> and you do support the religious who want to turn our government into a 
>> xian theocracy.
>>
>> We have the Constitution on our side.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 6:31:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> But you do support the entire Secular Progressive mindset Sis!  Great 
>>> Sound-BiteBut I call Bull-Hockey!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:19 PM, plainolamerican  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t support subsidizing any entity with taxpayer dollars. Self 
>>>> sufficiency & rugged indiviualism makes America great. Bloodsuckers make 
>>>> America weak & stupid
>>>>
>>>> Ted Nugent (unconfirmed)
>>>> ---
>>>> The *Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008* (Division A of Pub.L. 
>>>> 110–343 <http://legislink.org/us/pl-110-343>, 122 Stat. 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large> 3765 
>>>> <http://legislink.org/us/stat-122-3765>, enacted October 3, 2008), 
>>>> commonly referred to as a bailout 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailout> of the U.S. financial system, 
>>>> is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis> authorizing 
>>>> the United States Secretary of the Treasury 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury> to 
>>>> spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially 
>>>> mortgage-backed 
>>>> securities <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage-backed_security>, 
>>>> and supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed 
>>>> assets were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other 
>>>> financial institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the 
>>>> usefulness of targeted asset purchases.[1] 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008#cite_note-1>
>>>> [2] 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008#cite_note-2>
>>>>  Both 
>>>> foreign and domestic banks are included in the program.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:15:52 AM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A reported couple of hundred thousand folks descended on Washington DC 
>>>>> to protest what they believe will be the crazed perceived anti-women 
>>>>> agenda 
>>>>> by the Trump administration. Whenever you hear “women’s rights” know that 
>>>>> these are code words to mean “abortion.” Dare one of the liars to name a 
>>>>> single human right they don't have.
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of the protest, Madonna said something about wanting to blow 
>>>>> up the White House. Oh, boy. The braindead lying Alinsky left sic'd the 
>>>>> secret service on me for stating my fear of the corrupt obama government. 
>>>>> Bet nobody sics em on old withered maddonna.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the core of their protest is Planned Parenthood, which is a private 
>>>>> organization that receives over 300 million of our taxpayer dollars. 
>>>>> Planned Parenthood says that only three percent of the services they 
>>>>> provide involve abortion. They also claim to provide contraceptive 
>>>>> services 
>>>>> and testing for sexually transmitted diseases.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you morally and ethically believe about abortion is your 
>>>>> business, but the Supreme Court ruled in Roe vs. Wade in 1973 that 
>>>>> abortion 
>>>>> is basically legal. 
>>>>>
>>>>> How about this logic? Taxpayers didn’t get any women pregnant so why 
>>>>> in the hell should our taxpayer dollars be used to pay for their 
>>>>> abortions? 
>>>>> If a woman wants an abortion, she and the male breeder should pay for it. 
>>>>> Duh.
>>>>&

[PoliticalForum] Re: [grendelreport] We Need a Law to Prevent Another President Obama

[plainolamerican]

Mark A. Hewitt 
---
a birther and warmonger.

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 10:38:40 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
> January 20, 2017
> We Need a Law to Prevent Another President Obama
>
> By Mark A. Hewitt 
>
> Now that President Obama is a former president, maybe Congress can now 
> crawl out of their safe spaces and deal with the issue of what is meant by 
> Article II of the U.S. Constitution 
> : 
> "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the 
> Office of President."
>
> In January 2016, Congressman Alan Grayson said he would sue Senator Ted 
> Cruz over his eligibility to be president 
> .
>   Grayson 
> told MSNBC that he would sue over Canadian-born Cruz's natural-born citizen 
> status if the senator ever became the GOP nominee.  Why?  "Because the 
> Constitution means what it says and says what it means."  In February 2016, 
> presidential candidate Donald Trump jumped into the fray and said he was 
> "very seriously" thinking about filing a suit to challenge Ted Cruz's 
> eligibility to be president 
> .
>   
> Senator Cruz's father is Cuban-born; his mother is American.  "He was born 
> in Canada, lived there for years."  Mr. Trump's suit would have determined 
> if his competitor was a "natural born citizen" as stipulated by the U.S. 
> Constitution. 
>
> Under the straw argument that the U.S. Constitution doesn't define what is 
> meant by "natural-born citizen," the media and Washington, D.C. Democrats 
> embraced the media-driven new definition: "natural born citizen" simply 
> means "citizenship due to place of birth."
>
> During the 2007 election cycle, Democrats and the media buttressed Senator 
> Barack Obama's eligibility to be president with an unrelenting campaign 
> that having been born in Hawaii automatically made candidate Obama – *a 
> child of a British (Kenyan) national* – a "natural born citizen" of the 
> United States.  Newspaper and magazine articles steered away from 
> discussing how the son of a Kenyan national could be the next president of 
> the United States.  He was born in Hawaii, and that was sufficient.  And if 
> anyone challenged the assertion that "natural born citizen" simply meant 
> "citizenship due to place of birth," he was branded a racist and bigot, or 
> worse. 
>
> We need a law that enunciates that the constitutional phrase "natural born 
> citizen" means what the Founders articulated those three little words to 
> mean: "born of two American parents."
>
> A child born of two foreign parents is a "natural born citizen" of their 
> parents' country, per their country's constitution, and, if born in 
> America, is not automatically an American citizen.  If the Russian 
> ambassador and his wife have a baby at the Georgetown University Medical 
> Center the baby is a citizen of his parents' country – in this case, 
> Russia.  Little Vladimir or Baby Ivanka is not an American citizen.  They 
> are Russian citizens "by birth."  If they wish, they can grow up and 
> immigrate to the U.S. and apply for citizenship.  If accepted, then they 
> could become "naturalized" U.S. citizens.
>
> A "natural born citizen" law has to clearly elucidate that naturalized 
> U.S. citizens are not eligible to become president of the United States of 
> America.  The New York Post published an October 19, 2013 report claiming 
> that Arnold Schwarzenegger 
> 
>  
> is "mulling a push to change the section of the U.S. Constitution requiring 
> presidential candidates to be American-born."  Schwarzenegger was born in 
> Austria 
> 
>  
> to Austrian parents and in 1983 obtained his U.S. citizenship. 
>
> A child born of one foreign parent and one American parent, irrespective 
> of where the child is born, is a national of two countries at the same 
> time.  From the U.S. State Department, "[t]he concept of dual nationality 
> 
>  
> means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time.  Each 
> country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy.  Persons may 
> have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than 
> by choice."
>
> "Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and a foreign 

Re: [PoliticalForum] Protectionism Will Make America Poor, Not Great

[plainolamerican]

We've been taken advantage of and run over for 28 years.
---
poor fellers ... so abused.
now you've got a loudmouthed asshole in the WH who outsources jobs to 
represent you.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 6:15:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> And I disagree that tariffs will somehow destroy American trade.  Horse 
> Hockey.  We've been taken advantage of and run over for 28 years.  ENOUGH!
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:11 PM, geoffrey theist  > wrote:
>
>> You mean service jobs ?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 10:15 AM, "MJ" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *"When imports increase, jobs frequently are lost in domestic industries 
>>> that compete with those imports. This is all many voters see. What they 
>>> don’t realize is these very same imports create jobs elsewhere in the 
>>> economy." *Wednesday, November 23, 2016
>>>
>>> *Protectionism Will Make America Poor, Not Great *Benjamin Powell
>>>
>>> President-elect Donald Trump’s anti-trade rhetoric has proven bad 
>>> economics can make good politics. Fortunately, after Mr. Trump assumes 
>>> office, his trade policies will likely be better than his campaign rhetoric.
>>>
>>> Many factors contributed to Trump’s victory. His upset wins in the 
>>> so-called "Rust Belt" states, which are typically Democratic strongholds, 
>>> can be linked to his promise to revive US manufacturing by restricting 
>>> “unfair” trade with Mexico, China, and other countries.
>>>
>>> This promise resonated well with union workers. Trump won the union vote 
>>> in Ohio, tied Clinton among union households in Michigan, and narrowly lost 
>>> the union vote in Wisconsin by 8 percentage points – a huge improvement 
>>> over 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney.
>>>
>>> The reason Mr. Trump’s rhetoric on trade resonated with so many blue 
>>> collar voters is because they believe a popular fallacy: foreign trade 
>>> destroys US jobs.
>>>
>>> According to exit polls, 50 percent of voters in Wisconsin and Michigan 
>>> agreed with the notion that international trade kills American jobs. 
>>> Similarly, 53 percent of Pennsylvanian voters and 48 percent of Ohio voters 
>>> bought into this fallacy. Among the voters in the four states who expressed 
>>> agreement with the trade fallacy, Trump’s support ranged from 59 percent in 
>>> Michigan to 67 percent in Ohio.
>>>
>>> When imports increase, jobs frequently are lost in competing domestic 
>>> industries. What voters don't realize is these same imports create jobs 
>>> elsewhere in the economy.
>>> Yet, as any trade economist understands, the truth is trade neither 
>>> creates nor destroys jobs.
>>>
>>> More than half of all imports are intermediate components or raw 
>>> materials that go into the production of other goods and services. When 
>>> international trade makes these materials and parts cheaper and more widely 
>>> available, the domestic industries that use these items become more 
>>> competitive, enabling them to sell more products, which results in 
>>> expansion and increases in jobs.
>>>
>>> Similarly, when foreigners receive dollars by exporting to the United 
>>> States they’re able to buy more, which increases the market for U.S. 
>>> exports. This, too, powers economic expansion and boosts employment in U.S. 
>>> export industries.
>>>
>>> International trade changes the mix, not the number, of jobs in the 
>>> United States. In fact, the classic economic case for free trade rests on 
>>> the reshuffling of jobs. The reshuffling allows American workers to perform 
>>> the tasks at which they are relatively more productive, while foreigners do 
>>> the same.
>>>
>>> Exit polls showed only a small minority (fewer than 13 percent) of 
>>> voters in the Rust Belt battleground states understood international trade 
>>> has no net effect on the number of jobs. Candidate Trump benefited from 
>>> their ignorance.
>>>
>>> If Mr. Trump runs for re-election in four years, voters are likely to 
>>> care less about his rhetoric and more about the state of the economy. The 
>>> protectionist policies he promoted during the campaign would shrink the 
>>> economy and make the United States poorer.
>>>
>>> President Trump will have to choose between candidate Trump’s promises. 
>>> He can embrace international trade and contribute to making America great, 
>>> or he can follow his protectionist rhetoric at the expense of American 
>>> greatness. But he can’t have it both ways.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://fee.org/articles/protectionism-will-make-america-poor-not-great/
>>>
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Pussy Hat March

[plainolamerican]

you do support the entire Secular Progressive mindset
---
and you do support the religious who want to turn our government into a 
xian theocracy.

We have the Constitution on our side.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 6:31:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> But you do support the entire Secular Progressive mindset Sis!  Great 
> Sound-BiteBut I call Bull-Hockey!
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:19 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> I don’t support subsidizing any entity with taxpayer dollars. Self 
>> sufficiency & rugged indiviualism makes America great. Bloodsuckers make 
>> America weak & stupid
>>
>> Ted Nugent (unconfirmed)
>> ---
>> The *Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008* (Division A of Pub.L. 
>> 110–343 <http://legislink.org/us/pl-110-343>, 122 Stat. 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large> 3765 
>> <http://legislink.org/us/stat-122-3765>, enacted October 3, 2008), 
>> commonly referred to as a bailout <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailout> of 
>> the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime 
>> mortgage crisis <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis> 
>> authorizing 
>> the United States Secretary of the Treasury 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury> to 
>> spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially 
>> mortgage-backed 
>> securities <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage-backed_security>, and 
>> supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed assets 
>> were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other financial 
>> institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the usefulness of 
>> targeted asset purchases.[1] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008#cite_note-1>
>> [2] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008#cite_note-2>
>>  Both 
>> foreign and domestic banks are included in the program.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:15:52 AM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> A reported couple of hundred thousand folks descended on Washington DC 
>>> to protest what they believe will be the crazed perceived anti-women agenda 
>>> by the Trump administration. Whenever you hear “women’s rights” know that 
>>> these are code words to mean “abortion.” Dare one of the liars to name a 
>>> single human right they don't have.
>>>
>>> As part of the protest, Madonna said something about wanting to blow up 
>>> the White House. Oh, boy. The braindead lying Alinsky left sic'd the secret 
>>> service on me for stating my fear of the corrupt obama government. Bet 
>>> nobody sics em on old withered maddonna.
>>>
>>> At the core of their protest is Planned Parenthood, which is a private 
>>> organization that receives over 300 million of our taxpayer dollars. 
>>> Planned Parenthood says that only three percent of the services they 
>>> provide involve abortion. They also claim to provide contraceptive services 
>>> and testing for sexually transmitted diseases.
>>>
>>> What you morally and ethically believe about abortion is your business, 
>>> but the Supreme Court ruled in Roe vs. Wade in 1973 that abortion is 
>>> basically legal. 
>>>
>>> How about this logic? Taxpayers didn’t get any women pregnant so why in 
>>> the hell should our taxpayer dollars be used to pay for their abortions? If 
>>> a woman wants an abortion, she and the male breeder should pay for it. Duh.
>>>
>>> Think of it in these terms: the 2nd Amendment is a right guaranteed by 
>>> Bill of Rights and no one expects taxpayer dollars to buy me guns and ammo. 
>>> If that’s true, then why should taxpayers have to pay for any of Planned 
>>> Parenthood services? Of course we should not.
>>>
>>> I’m all about providing women with counseling services. What I’m not 
>>> about is using taxpayer dollars to pay for it. How about churches, civic 
>>> organizations and individuals fund Planned Parenthood? Here’s a novel idea: 
>>> How about individuals who want Planned Parenthood services pay for them? Oh 
>>> the deadly pain of logic strikes again.
>>>
>>> This is fundamentally about what is and isn’t the role of government. I 
>>> don’t support subsidizing any entity with taxpayer dollars. Self 
>>> sufficiency & rugged indiviualis

Re: [PoliticalForum] Pussy Hat March

[plainolamerican]

I don’t support subsidizing any entity with taxpayer dollars. Self 
sufficiency & rugged indiviualism makes America great. Bloodsuckers make 
America weak & stupid

Ted Nugent (unconfirmed)
---
The *Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008* (Division A of Pub.L. 
110–343 , 122 Stat. 
 3765 
, enacted October 3, 2008), commonly 
referred to as a bailout  of the 
U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime 
mortgage crisis  
authorizing 
the United States Secretary of the Treasury 
 to 
spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially 
mortgage-backed 
securities , and 
supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed assets 
were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other financial 
institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the usefulness of 
targeted asset purchases.[1] 

[2] 

 Both 
foreign and domestic banks are included in the program.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:15:52 AM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>
>
> A reported couple of hundred thousand folks descended on Washington DC to 
> protest what they believe will be the crazed perceived anti-women agenda by 
> the Trump administration. Whenever you hear “women’s rights” know that 
> these are code words to mean “abortion.” Dare one of the liars to name a 
> single human right they don't have.
>
> As part of the protest, Madonna said something about wanting to blow up 
> the White House. Oh, boy. The braindead lying Alinsky left sic'd the secret 
> service on me for stating my fear of the corrupt obama government. Bet 
> nobody sics em on old withered maddonna.
>
> At the core of their protest is Planned Parenthood, which is a private 
> organization that receives over 300 million of our taxpayer dollars. 
> Planned Parenthood says that only three percent of the services they 
> provide involve abortion. They also claim to provide contraceptive services 
> and testing for sexually transmitted diseases.
>
> What you morally and ethically believe about abortion is your business, 
> but the Supreme Court ruled in Roe vs. Wade in 1973 that abortion is 
> basically legal. 
>
> How about this logic? Taxpayers didn’t get any women pregnant so why in 
> the hell should our taxpayer dollars be used to pay for their abortions? If 
> a woman wants an abortion, she and the male breeder should pay for it. Duh.
>
> Think of it in these terms: the 2nd Amendment is a right guaranteed by 
> Bill of Rights and no one expects taxpayer dollars to buy me guns and ammo. 
> If that’s true, then why should taxpayers have to pay for any of Planned 
> Parenthood services? Of course we should not.
>
> I’m all about providing women with counseling services. What I’m not about 
> is using taxpayer dollars to pay for it. How about churches, civic 
> organizations and individuals fund Planned Parenthood? Here’s a novel idea: 
> How about individuals who want Planned Parenthood services pay for them? Oh 
> the deadly pain of logic strikes again.
>
> This is fundamentally about what is and isn’t the role of government. I 
> don’t support subsidizing any entity with taxpayer dollars. Self 
> sufficiency & rugged indiviualism makes America great. Bloodsuckers make 
> America weak & stupid
>
> Ted Nugent (unconfirmed)
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

After 3 years in Edinburgh, Hodgskin returned to London in 1823 as a 
journalist. Influenced by Jean-Baptiste Say 
 amongst others, his views 
on political economy  had 
diverged from the utilitarian  
orthodoxy 
of David Ricardo  and James 
Mill . During the controversy 
around the parliamentary acts to first legalise and then ban worker's 
"combinations", Mill and Ricardo had been in favour of the ban whereas 
Hodgskin supported the right to organise. He used Ricardo's labour theory 
of value  to denounce 
the appropriation of the most part of value produced by the labour of 
industrial workers as illegitimate. He propounded these views in a series 
of lectures at the London Mechanics Institute 
 (later renamed 
Birkbeck, 
University of London 
) where he 
debated with William Thompson 
, with whom he 
shared the critique of capitalist expropriation but not the proposed 
remedy. The results of these lectures and debates he published as "Labour 
Defended against the Claims of Capital" (1825), "Popular Political Economy" 
(1827) and "Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted" (1832). 
The title of "Labour Defended" was a jibe at James Mill 
's earlier "Commerce Defended" 
and signalled his opposition to the latter taking sides with the 
capitalists against their employees.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 7:25:35 AM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>
>
> *"The education of a free people, like their property, will always be 
> directed more beneficially for them when it is in their own hands. When 
> government interferes, it directs its efforts more to make people obedient 
> and docile than wise and happy. It devises to control the thoughts, and 
> fashion even the minds of its subjects; and to give into its hands the 
> power of educating the people is the widest possible extension of that most 
> pernicious practice which has so long desolated society, of allowing one or 
> a few men to direct the actions, and control the conduct of millions. Men 
> had better be without education properly so called, for nature of herself 
> teaches us many valuable truths than be educated by their rulers; for then 
> education is but the mere breaking in of the steer to the yoke; the mere 
> discipline of a hunting dog, which, by dint of severity, is made to forego 
> the strongest impulse of nature, and instead of devouring his prey, to 
> hasten with it to the feet of his master."* -- Thomas Hodgskin, 
> Mechanics’ Magazine, October 11, 1823
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

education funds are for the most part grossly mismanaged
---
and unfairly distributed.
just wait until the xians get a hold of education funds.

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 8:06:59 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> Plain Ole education funds are for the most part grossly mismanaged
>
> On Jan 21, 2017 8:03 PM, "plainolamerican"  > wrote:
>
>> Churches are exempt from federal taxation
>> ---
>> notice that I changed churches to the religious.
>> to read ... we both know what will happen if the religious are allowed to 
>> opt out of funding public education.
>>
>> Education should be managed by state and local government entities
>> ---
>> that's not fair to the students who live in states where politicians 
>> under fund public education ... i.e., MS, AL, TN.
>>
>> besides ... devoSS and her ilk are fighting several fronts ... separation 
>> of church and state, religious exemption from law, islamophobia, etc.
>>
>> “Americans are always free to send their children to private schools and 
>> religious schools, but raiding the public treasury to subsidize private 
>> businesses and religious organizations runs against the public trust and 
>> the Constitution,” Moline said. “It suggests that he has little regard for 
>> our nation’s public schools or the constitutional principle of separation 
>> of church and state.”
>>
>> DeVos has not said much on Common Core, the set of math and reading 
>> guidelines adopted by most states. However, she has ties to several 
>> pro-Common Core organizations, Emma Brown reports 
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-picks-billionaire-betsy-devos-school-voucher-advocate-as-education-secretary/2016/11/23/c3d66b94-af96-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?tid=a_inl>
>> .
>>
>> The choice of DeVos is likely the handiwork of Vice President-elect Mike 
>> Pence, who as governor of Indiana expanded vouchers 
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pence-accomplished-what-trump-wants-for-national-education-vouchers-and-charters/2016/11/11/41857930-a75a-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html>,
>>  
>> said Julie Ingersoll, professor of religious studies at the University of 
>> North Florida.
>>
>> “It’s been a long-standing goal of the Religious Right to replace public 
>> education with Christian education,” she said. “The long term strategy of 
>> how to change culture is through education.”
>>
>> The Devos family foundation has given grants to wide number of religious 
>> institutions, including the Willow Creek Association outside of Chicago, 
>> Grove City College, a Christian college in Pennsylvania and Hope College, a 
>> Christian college in Michigan.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 7:39:09 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>
>>> Churches are exempt from federal taxation I can't speak for the various 
>>> states. Education should be managed by state and local government entities. 
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2017 7:34 PM, "plainolamerican"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  people shouldn't have knowledge of federal education policy because 
>>>> there shouldn't be any.
>>>> ---
>>>> we both know what will happen if churches are allowed to opt out of 
>>>> funding public education.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:44:46 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's probably the point plain Ole people shouldn't have knowledge of 
>>>>> federal education policy because there shouldn't be any.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "plainolamerican"  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms. DeVoss's acumen and professionalism came shining through.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Senate Democrats hit Betsy DeVos, Donald Trump’s pick for education 
>>>>>> secretary, on all sides at her confirmation hearing Tuesday night. But 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> question that made her look worst required her to demonstrate a basic 
>>>>>> understanding of education policy — a test DeVos failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sen. Al Franken asked DeVos to explain her thinking on whether test 
>>>>>> scores should be used to measure students’ proficiency or their growth. 
>>>>>> That’s an important, and basic, difference because it affects how 
>>>>>> 

Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

Churches are exempt from federal taxation
---
notice that I changed churches to the religious.
to read ... we both know what will happen if the religious are allowed to 
opt out of funding public education.

Education should be managed by state and local government entities
---
that's not fair to the students who live in states where politicians under 
fund public education ... i.e., MS, AL, TN.

besides ... devoSS and her ilk are fighting several fronts ... separation 
of church and state, religious exemption from law, islamophobia, etc.

“Americans are always free to send their children to private schools and 
religious schools, but raiding the public treasury to subsidize private 
businesses and religious organizations runs against the public trust and 
the Constitution,” Moline said. “It suggests that he has little regard for 
our nation’s public schools or the constitutional principle of separation 
of church and state.”

DeVos has not said much on Common Core, the set of math and reading 
guidelines adopted by most states. However, she has ties to several 
pro-Common Core organizations, Emma Brown reports 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-picks-billionaire-betsy-devos-school-voucher-advocate-as-education-secretary/2016/11/23/c3d66b94-af96-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?tid=a_inl>
.

The choice of DeVos is likely the handiwork of Vice President-elect Mike 
Pence, who as governor of Indiana expanded vouchers 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pence-accomplished-what-trump-wants-for-national-education-vouchers-and-charters/2016/11/11/41857930-a75a-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html>,
 
said Julie Ingersoll, professor of religious studies at the University of 
North Florida.

“It’s been a long-standing goal of the Religious Right to replace public 
education with Christian education,” she said. “The long term strategy of 
how to change culture is through education.”

The Devos family foundation has given grants to wide number of religious 
institutions, including the Willow Creek Association outside of Chicago, 
Grove City College, a Christian college in Pennsylvania and Hope College, a 
Christian college in Michigan.



On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 7:39:09 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> Churches are exempt from federal taxation I can't speak for the various 
> states. Education should be managed by state and local government entities. 
>
> On Jan 21, 2017 7:34 PM, "plainolamerican"  > wrote:
>
>>  people shouldn't have knowledge of federal education policy because 
>> there shouldn't be any.
>> ---
>> we both know what will happen if churches are allowed to opt out of 
>> funding public education.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:44:46 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>
>>> That's probably the point plain Ole people shouldn't have knowledge of 
>>> federal education policy because there shouldn't be any.
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "plainolamerican"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ms. DeVoss's acumen and professionalism came shining through.
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Senate Democrats hit Betsy DeVos, Donald Trump’s pick for education 
>>>> secretary, on all sides at her confirmation hearing Tuesday night. But the 
>>>> question that made her look worst required her to demonstrate a basic 
>>>> understanding of education policy — a test DeVos failed.
>>>>
>>>> Sen. Al Franken asked DeVos to explain her thinking on whether test 
>>>> scores should be used to measure students’ proficiency or their growth. 
>>>> That’s an important, and basic, difference because it affects how schools 
>>>> are labeled as succeeding or failing.
>>>>
>>>> But DeVos had no idea what Franken was talking about.
>>>>
>>>> This wasn’t just a matter of mixing up some jargon. DeVos’s response, 
>>>> as well as her reactions to similar questions about the basics of federal 
>>>> education policy, suggested she knows little about what the department she 
>>>> hopes to lead actually does.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Betsy DeVos has no training or experience in education.
>>>>
>>>> She has never worked in a school in any capacity, and does not hold a 
>>>> degree in education (nor did she or her children ever attend a public 
>>>> school).
>>>> 2. Like Donald Trump, DeVos is an ardent supporter of “school choice” 
>>>> privatization schemes, despite a complete lack of evidence that 
>>>> privatizing 
>>>> public schools produces 

[PoliticalForum] Re: LOL! Butt-Hurt Crybabies Libtards Morons React to Trump Inauguration

[plainolamerican]

*Paul Joseph Watson* is a British  
alt-right  conspiracy 
 wacko and YouTube 
 vlogger 
 who currently lives in the London 
 district of Battersea.[1] 


He is known for both his own YouTube channel,[2] 
 and for the 
numerous articles he writes for Alex Jones 
 on *Infowars*.[3] 
 Disconcertingly, 
as of January 2017, his YouTube channel boasts just over 685,000 
subscribers and has had 155,000,000 views in total.[4] 


He has been trying to (and largely succeeding at) converting fringe 
conspiracy theories into mainstream ideas for years before Donald Trump 
 started doing it. Often, his 
means of doing this is with misleading clickbait 
-y videos with titles like "The 
Truth About…" These videos never actually contain the truth about the 
things they are about; instead, they contain a mixture of misleading 
claims, baseless speculation, conspiracy theories, and outright lies.

Naturally, he loves Trump;[1] 
 though he 
prefers attacking Trump's opponents to defending him (though he has done 
both). He is also one of the big pushers of the debunked hoax about Hillary 
Clinton  having brain 
 damage.[5] 


His favorite topics, in addition to Trump and Clinton, include favorite 
conspiracy theory whipping boys: the Boston Marathon bombing 
, Sandy Hook 
, Black Lives Matter 
 (which he hates),[6] 
 and, of 
course, good old-fashioned Islamophobia 
.[7] 


He also endorses the MGTOW  movement, 
advocating "rejecting toxic women  who 
have been brainwashed  by cultural 
marxism " and recommending 
instead that all male viewers (no girls allowed!) visit *Return of Kings 
* and partake in the gospel 
according to Roosh V .[8] 


Watson published an article about an explosive leaked video of Trump 
 saying racist 
 and sexist 
 epithets recorded by a secret camera. 
The problem with the story? It was made up by a Scottish marketing 
professional. How did Watson get the story? The Scotsman messaged Watson 
the story on Twitter as a prank. Without any effort to fact-check the story 
or even verify the identity of the leaker, Watson hurriedly typed up the 
story in the hopes of getting more clicks. Adding insult to injury, the 
article remained up for days after the prankster revealed his game, which 
shows Watson is the pinnacle of journalistic malpractice and fake news. [13] 
[14] 


On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 4:35:21 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Paul Joseph Watson's latest contribution, and it would be hilarious if not 
> so dangerous:
>
> LOL! Butt-Hurt Crybabies Libtards Morons React to Trump Inauguration
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocALePAVL8
>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: 21 January 2017:

[plainolamerican]

Joe Dan said God came into his life via the basement
---
from below, eh?
he should watch his back.

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 4:07:38 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Another exciting edition of Intellectual Froglegs with your host, Joe-Dan 
> Gorman:
>
> https://vimeo.com/200488858
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

 people shouldn't have knowledge of federal education policy because there 
shouldn't be any.
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we both know what will happen if churches are allowed to opt out of funding 
public education.


On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:44:46 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
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> That's probably the point plain Ole people shouldn't have knowledge of 
> federal education policy because there shouldn't be any.
>
> On Jan 21, 2017 3:18 PM, "plainolamerican"  > wrote:
>
>> Ms. DeVoss's acumen and professionalism came shining through.
>> ---
>>
>> Senate Democrats hit Betsy DeVos, Donald Trump’s pick for education 
>> secretary, on all sides at her confirmation hearing Tuesday night. But the 
>> question that made her look worst required her to demonstrate a basic 
>> understanding of education policy — a test DeVos failed.
>>
>> Sen. Al Franken asked DeVos to explain her thinking on whether test 
>> scores should be used to measure students’ proficiency or their growth. 
>> That’s an important, and basic, difference because it affects how schools 
>> are labeled as succeeding or failing.
>>
>> But DeVos had no idea what Franken was talking about.
>>
>> This wasn’t just a matter of mixing up some jargon. DeVos’s response, as 
>> well as her reactions to similar questions about the basics of federal 
>> education policy, suggested she knows little about what the department she 
>> hopes to lead actually does.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Betsy DeVos has no training or experience in education.
>>
>> She has never worked in a school in any capacity, and does not hold a 
>> degree in education (nor did she or her children ever attend a public 
>> school).
>> 2. Like Donald Trump, DeVos is an ardent supporter of “school choice” 
>> privatization schemes, despite a complete lack of evidence that privatizing 
>> public schools produces better education.
>>
>> In Michigan, Betsy and husband Dick DeVos have pushed for decades for 
>> so-called “choice” schemes and corporate charter schools, most of which 
>> have performed worse than the state average. They are long-time Republican 
>> party donors who support pro “school choice” candidates, and Betsy DeVos 
>> has served on the boards of two major groups leading the charge to 
>> privatize public schools.
>>
>> <http://educationvotes.nea.org/2016/11/30/5-reasons-trump-pick-betsy-devos-wrong-secretary-education/bestsy-devos-graphic/>Share
>>  
>> this graphic. 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/speakupforkids/photos/a.115236388517172.7162.112325855474892/1409058765801588/?type=3&theater>3.
>>  
>> DeVos has invested millions lobbying for laws that drain resources from 
>> public schools.
>>
>> In 2000, Michigan voters rejected a massive effort led by Betsy and Dick 
>> DeVos to change the state’s constitution to allow private school voucher 
>> schemes that siphon money away from public schools. But Betsy DeVos has 
>> promoted these measures as chair of the American Federation for Children, 
>> and the DeVos family has spent millions 
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-picks-billionaire-betsy-devos-school-voucher-advocate-as-education-secretary/2016/11/23/c3d66b94-af96-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html>
>>  to 
>> push for the expansion of vouchers in other states.
>> 4. DeVos has fought against the regulation of charter schools.
>>
>> The DeVos family gave nearly $1 million 
>> <http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/stephen-henderson/2016/09/03/charter-devos-money-michigan/89774760/>
>>  to 
>> GOP lawmakers in the Michigan legislature who gutted a bill that included 
>> accountability measures for charter schools in Detroit. Those charters will 
>> not be subject to the same oversight or regulation as public schools, even 
>> though they are funded with taxpayer money, thanks largely to the DeVos 
>> family.
>> 5. Betsy DeVos is not a good fit for a position overseeing the civil 
>> rights of all students.
>>
>> Donald Trump’s nomination of DeVos is deeply concerning to many civil 
>> rights groups, because school choice schemes promote racial segregation and 
>> undercut civil rights enforcement that is routine in public schools. 
>> Corporate charter schools have higher than average teacher turnover and 
>> closure rates 
>> <http://www.prwatch.org/news/2015/09/12936/cmd-publishes-full-list-2500-closed-charter-schools>,
>>  
>> which disproportionately affect students of color and low-income families.
>>

[PoliticalForum] Re: Patricia Arquette just said on live TV that women are 60% of the population in the US.

[plainolamerican]

these perpetual victims are dumbasses. I'm embarrassed that 500K women are 
ignorant 
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there are a lot more than 500k ignorant women.


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On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:16:41 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
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>
> "As far as women go, we are 60% of the population now in the United States"
>
> --from the "women's march" in Washington, DC on CNN.
>
> Jeezus these perpetual victims are dumbasses. I'm embarrassed that 500K 
> women are ignorant enough to think that whining about the results of an 
> election 2.5 months later is a worthwhile use of a Saturday - or that when 
> they show idiots spewing idiocy like Patricia Arquette just did or Madonna 
> did earlier, that they will somehow gain more followers or accomplish 
> anything besides blocking traffic.
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

 “In most Democratic administrations, the U.S. 
Department of Education is a wholly owned subsidiary of the national 
teachers unions. That’s not going to be the case if Betsy DeVos is going to 
be the secretary of Education.”
<http://forward.com/news/202290/how-orthodox-agudah-and-wal-mart-money-united-to-b/>
How Orthodox Agudah and Wal-Mart Money United To Back School Vouchers 
<http://forward.com/news/202290/how-orthodox-agudah-and-wal-mart-money-united-to-b/>Josh
 
Nathan-Kazis <http://forward.com/author/josh-nathan-kazis/>July 22, 2014

Since most public education policy in the United States is made by state 
and local governments and school boards, the secretary of Education’s role 
is somewhat constrained. But Orthodox advocates say that, from her post, 
DeVos could make federal funding programs friendlier to the needs of 
private and religious schools.

“We’re hoping that there can be programs at the federal level, particularly 
in the form of tax credits and other kinds of things, that can also deliver 
direct funding to nonpublic school families,” Diament said.

DeVos still must be confirmed by the Senate, which will happen sometime 
after Trump’s inauguration in January.

DeVos, the billionaire sister of the controversial Iraq War-era private 
army entrepreneur Erik Prince, has been a leader in the education reform 
movement through her philanthropy and her leadership of advocacy 
organizations. A supporter of voucher programs, which use public funds to 
subsidize tuitions at private and religious schools, DeVos has pushed for 
change in state legislatures across the country to improve prospects for 
nonpublic education.

DeVos’s advocacy group, the American Federation for Children, also supports 
scholarship tax credit programs, which provide special state tax breaks in 
return for donations to private school scholarship funds.

Her interests align with Orthodox Jewish groups like the Orthodox Union and 
Agudath Israel of America, which have fought alongside DeVos’s American 
Federation for Children for tax-credit programs, which the Jewish groups 
hope will make religious education more affordable for Jewish families.

For the most part, the Orthodox advocates say that they aren’t looking for 
a big-ticket item, like a federal school voucher program, from DeVos if she 
is confirmed to run the DOE. Instead, they’re hoping for something they’ve 
been slowly working toward for decades: a federal education bureaucracy 
that’s more open to supporting religious schools in a variety of ways.

“What I do hope, and I’m confident will happen, is that you’ll have a 
Department of Education that is more private school-friendly,” said Agudath 
Israel’s national director of state relations, A.D. Motzen.

Union leaders, meanwhile, are raising alarms about DeVos.

Randi Weingarten, the head of the American Federation of Teachers, called 
DeVos 
<http://www.aft.org/press-release/aft-president-randi-weingarten-nomination-betsy-devos-secretary-education#sthash.RBfFpyGa.dpuf>
 the 
“most ideological, anti-public education nominee” since the position of 
secretary of Education was created in 1979.

Weingarten, who is Jewish, also noted that DeVos had no classroom 
experience. “The sum total of her involvement has been spending her 
family’s wealth in an effort to dismantle public education in Michigan,” 
Weingarten said. “Every American should be concerned that she would impose 
her reckless and extreme ideology on the nation.”

Union advocates argue that DeVos and her allies seek to undermine the 
public schools. They oppose voucher programs and charter schools, and see 
DeVos as a leading donor behind the nationwide spread of both.

Some Jewish groups, too, have been critical of the selection of DeVos. In a 
statement, the associate director of the Religious Action Center of Reform 
Judaism, Barbara Weinstein, said the organization hoped that DeVos would 
reject voucher programs, which, the RAC said, “[take] tax dollars from the 
public school system and puts them towards private education.”

Still, it’s not just Orthodox schools that benefit when the Orthodox 
advocates have their way. Liberal and community Jewish day schools, too, 
benefit from tax credits and even from voucher programs pursued by the 
Orthodox organizations.

In Florida, DeVos’s organization collaborated with the O.U. to defend a tax 
credit program that benefits Jewish day schools. “They’ve been very 
involved in protecting the program from attempts to challenge it,” said 
Maury Litwack, the O.U.’s director of state political affairs. “Their 
organization was instrumental in being a voice.”

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 3:05:38 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> To a Moonbat like you, obviously.  To the rest of thoughtful, thinking 
> Americans, Ms. DeVoss's acumen and professionalism came shining through.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:57 PM, plainolamerican  > wrote:
>
>> Franklin ex

[PoliticalForum] Re: Pussy Hat March

[plainolamerican]

Pussy Hat March
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imo ... equal rights is not too much to ask for or demand.
lots of people have had to fight for equal rights ... including catholics, 
asians, jews and blacks.


On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 11:51:15 AM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know what this is all about?
>
> According to Reuters:
> "Women said they hoped to send a unity message to Trump after a campaign 
> in which he said Mexican immigrants were "rapists," discussed banning 
> Muslims from entering the United States, and was revealed to have once 
> bragged about grabbing women by the genitals and kissing them without 
> permission. "
> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-women-idUSKBN1550DW
>
> But Gavin McInnes already demonstrated that these continually repeated 
> claims were erroneous: 
> http://takimag.com/article/top_10_trump_myths_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz4VXtJo41n
>  
> .
>
> What gives?
>
>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: Abolish the Department of Education

[plainolamerican]

Franklin exposed her ignorance quite well. 

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Re: As if it mattered; Trump tops all white presidents' inauguration numbers

[plainolamerican]

It's fun to watch Trumpsters stick their chests out and threaten the world.
Watching them cry and die on the battlefield ... not so much.

It's more fun watching the Abrahamics try to kill each other into extinction. 
The networks should start showing more of their carnage for the entire world to 
see and reveal those who supplied the weapons.

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