Re: [update] thunderbird & firefox 78 betas/rcs, and a note about enigmail
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:28:49AM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: > Hi, > > just a quick note about upcoming 78 releases for firefox and > thunderbird: > > If you're a thunderbird user, i encourage you to test the beta releases (just > uploaded 78.0beta3 on my repo), as there are quite some changes compared to > 68: > - some addons will disappear because of the move to webextensions > - first-class integration of openpgp (supersedes security/enigmail) > - no more subpackaging for lightning, its installed by default > - lots of quite ui improvements/tweaks > - and many more changes, cf > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0beta/releasenotes/ and the > same releasenotes for all the betas since > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/69.0beta/releasenotes/ > > i dont use enigmail nor pgp so havent tested at all the pgp integration, only > checked that the relevant libs were building fine. More bits on this thunderbird/openpgp/enigmail whack-a-mole: upstream is planning to leave all those bits disabled by default until thunderbird 78.2 (end of august) (per https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP), even if all basic bits are here there are still a lot of things missing: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Status So my plan is to make sure OpenBSD 6.8 ships with thunderbird 78 (68 will be dead by then), users of enigmail (esp. users with keys on smartcards, which requires gpgme) are *strongly* encouraged to test support in advance (i'll continue building/providing builds for 78.x on my repo) of the upcoming lock, using a distinct profile (or keep backups). Direct all your feedback upstream. Here's what i plan to add to pkg/README: Thunderbird 78 provides OpenPGP email encryption via RNP, which was previously optionally available via the Enigmail extension and GnuPG. All basic OpenPGP features (encrypt/decrypt/sign) are available out of the box. Support for smartcards is incomplete, only decryption works at this time, signing is not yet implemented. To use the experimental smartcard support, which is implemented as a fallback to GnuPG for secret key operations, install the gpgme package. no, i wont maintain two branches of the thunderbird port in CVS :) Landry
Re: [update] thunderbird & firefox 78 betas/rcs, and a note about enigmail
On 6/24/20 7:21 AM, Landry Breuil wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 06:28:59AM -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: >> On 6/24/20 5:28 AM, Landry Breuil wrote: >>> Hi, > > > >>> >> >> I use enigmail and PGP very regularly and have talked to the author of >> enigmail. >> >> One good news is that he was consulted when adding this functionality (and >> he was >> looking over the code) so there is some hope that this will be able to >> replace enigmail. >> OTOH he has recommended that you do not upgrade to this release if PGP is >> super important >> >> as things are likely to break and have multiple bugs. > > I'm well aware of all that, and expect people relying on pgp integration > to play with it with a new/clean profile of thunderbird so that proper > feedback can be sent upstream, of course you're free to play with fire > using your regular profile but there's no way back, so make backups > first... > Ah, of course, I just wanted to make sure others who don't follow the discussions would also know. For others who are not subscribed to bunch of email threads: Here's the thread at enigmail detailing plans for the future https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2020-May/005617.html And the news on their website https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/home/news/70-2019-10-08-future-openpgp-support-in-thunderbird And the general mailing list archive for other information https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/ Enigmail is like the only reason I use thunderbird, so I'm very sad :( Aisha > Landry >
Re: [update] thunderbird & firefox 78 betas/rcs, and a note about enigmail
On 6/24/20 5:28 AM, Landry Breuil wrote: > Hi, > > just a quick note about upcoming 78 releases for firefox and > thunderbird: > - firefox 78.0 is planned next week, pkgs for rc1 available on my repo > (cf https://packages.rhaalovely.net/README.txt - or the various > 'beta/release branches from https://cgit.rhaalovely.net/mozilla-firefox/ > if you prefer to build it yourself, with a small mozilla.port.mk diff > below) > - www/firefox-esr will stay at 68.10 when 78.0 is released, but will move to > 78.1 when www/mozilla-firefox moves to 79 (end of july according to > https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar) > - mail/mozilla-thunderbird will move to 78 when its released sometimes > in july (according to the 'upcoming releases' section of > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Home) - i've been using all the > 75/76/77/78 thunderbird betas on my work machines for the past months > without issues. > > If you're a thunderbird user, i encourage you to test the beta releases (just > uploaded 78.0beta3 on my repo), as there are quite some changes compared to > 68: > - some addons will disappear because of the move to webextensions > - first-class integration of openpgp (supersedes security/enigmail) > - no more subpackaging for lightning, its installed by default > - lots of quite ui improvements/tweaks > - and many more changes, cf > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0beta/releasenotes/ and the > same releasenotes for all the betas since > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/69.0beta/releasenotes/ > > i dont use enigmail nor pgp so havent tested at all the pgp integration, only > checked that the relevant libs were building fine. > I use enigmail and PGP very regularly and have talked to the author of enigmail. One good news is that he was consulted when adding this functionality (and he was looking over the code) so there is some hope that this will be able to replace enigmail. OTOH he has recommended that you do not upgrade to this release if PGP is super important as things are likely to break and have multiple bugs. ymmv. Aisha > Landry > > === > RCS file: /cvs/ports/www/mozilla/mozilla.port.mk,v > retrieving revision 1.131 > diff -u -r1.131 mozilla.port.mk > --- mozilla.port.mk 2 Jun 2020 15:22:18 - 1.131 > +++ mozilla.port.mk 24 Jun 2020 09:25:24 - > @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ > archivers/zip>=2.3 > > .if !defined(MOZILLA_USE_BUNDLED_NSS) > -MODMOZ_LIB_DEPENDS += security/nss>=3.53 #77: #1629594 for 3.52, #1637369 > for 3.52.1 > +MODMOZ_LIB_DEPENDS += security/nss>=3.53.1 > MODMOZ_WANTLIB += nss3 nssutil3 smime3 ssl3 > CONFIGURE_ARGS += --with-system-nss > .endif > @@ -127,9 +127,8 @@ > # no --with-system-png, apng support not bundled in > > AUTOCONF_VERSION = 2.13 > -CONFIGURE_ARGS += --with-system-zlib=/usr \ > +CONFIGURE_ARGS += --with-system-zlib \ > --enable-official-branding \ > - --disable-gconf \ > --disable-necko-wifi\ > --disable-optimize \ > --disable-tests \ >
Re: [update] thunderbird & firefox 78 betas/rcs, and a note about enigmail
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 06:28:59AM -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: > On 6/24/20 5:28 AM, Landry Breuil wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I use enigmail and PGP very regularly and have talked to the author of > enigmail. > > One good news is that he was consulted when adding this functionality (and he > was > looking over the code) so there is some hope that this will be able to > replace enigmail. > OTOH he has recommended that you do not upgrade to this release if PGP is > super important > > as things are likely to break and have multiple bugs. I'm well aware of all that, and expect people relying on pgp integration to play with it with a new/clean profile of thunderbird so that proper feedback can be sent upstream, of course you're free to play with fire using your regular profile but there's no way back, so make backups first... Landry
