It's late, but never too late to grab some passionate inspiration off the P2
list before hitting the sack. Thanks Jeff W. and Smilin' Jim C.
we have to
do some flag-waving ourselves
the fact that 5 of the Grammy Nominees in the Cont. Folk Category this year
are "Americana" acts, alt-country, ya'llternative, ya'llterna-honk, what ever
you want to call it, THIS HELPS CREATE A SCENE.
Use this flag to raise enough awareness that this
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moran/Vargo
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:31 PM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: Americana guesswork
Some country version of Marilyn Manson or
Rob Zombie might be able to briefly pull it off
M
Although I don't have either on CD if anyone turns you on to were I can buy
one let me know. If you have no luck you might try contacting Eric Ambel
(guitarist) through a band he just produced call Genghis Angus. Allen K is
GA's singer and might have a # for you
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
January 20, 1999
Rock Dreams Elude the Numbers,
But They Just Keep On Trucking
By ROBERT TOMSHO
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
KENT, Ohio -- Robert Kidney still gets up every morning believing that he could
become a rock 'n' roll
I'm not saying it's inevitable by any means. But so far, every claim
that it can't ignores the fact that right now it *is* happening in
another genre, and every reason for the claim that it can't happen is
countered by that swing revival. A lot of things have to come together,
but
Just wanted to let you all know that Charlie Burton´s old band from
Nebraska, The Hiccups, have a great new CD out on their own. They´re called
Shithook and the name of the CD is "When A Boyscout Gets The Blues". It
should appeal to any fan of Charlie´s older material.
Contact Dave Robel for
... one thing Swing and Rockabilly has going for it that
alt-country doesn't is the whole fashion aspect, which allows listeners to
participate in a whole other way.
When was the last time you saw somebody walking down the street and could
tell right away that they were an alt-country fan?
Tom
Thanks to Barry for posting the article about Kent, Ohio's The Numbers
Band. As I've mentioned on this list before, this band -- originally
called 15-60-75 -- was my first "bar band" - the first band I ever saw
live in a bar, and remains near the top of my list of live bands, whether
in a bar, an
CK wrote:
This Blueberries CD kicks ass. Its the arithmetic mean of The Jayhawks
and Blue Mountain. Which, I guess, would make it Wilco's first CD. Its
good. Thanks for the recommendations.
Hey, it wasn't #5 on my "Best of '98" for nuthin'...
(and Lucinda didn't make my list...so what does
Hi. Mike Ireland Dan Mesh will be heading over to Ireland to play in
late April/early May. Since the record wasn't released in England (just
finished imports through Shellshock) I haven't had any luck finding anyone
over there interested in doing shows. I figured I would post, just in case
In a message dated 99-01-19 21:27:15 EST, you write:
At 01:52 PM 1/18/99 EST, Elena wrote:
P.S. It has been pointed out to me by some close friends that it is
painfully
obvious from my posts to this list that my spelling is ATROCIOUS. Sorry
y'all,
I'll work on it. (Gotta get
In a message dated 99-01-19 23:50:40 EST, Jeff writes:
Support your local musician, promote this music every chance you get. The
only way this stuff is ever going to grow will be through Grass Roots
(Grass Roots? my god, I sound like a fucking communist!) It won't ever be
big with the
In a message dated 99-01-20 02:15:21 EST, you write:
I was digging through some old cassettes earlier today, adn come upon two
Del
Lords albums, "Based On A True Story" and "Johnny Comes Marching Home."
Naturally, as I attempted to play them, they were both beyond even
moderate
Good Bob Soron:
I'm not saying it's inevitable by any means. But so far, every claim
that (alt-country) can't (get huge) ignores the fact that right now it
*is* happening in
another genre, and every reason for the claim that it can't happen is
Kip writes:Although mutton chop sideburns might qualify for a Look,
standing aloof in the back of the bar with a bottle of Bud doesn't make
much a Dance.
That depends on the kind of hat you're wearing, doesn't it? g
Have you ever been to Texas? When the Derailers played Saturday night there
were
Meanwhile, I think it was the great early alt.country artist Hank Thoreau
(of Hank Thoreau and the Deliberate Suburbanites) who said "avoid all
enterprises requiring acquisition of new clothes."
Barry M.
I liked his second album best, "Mom's Buying the Groceries (But Emerson's
Buying the
I believe that if there was a fifth Beatle, it was Carl Perkins.
Any takers?
Junior
There's a great scene in Go, Cat, Go, David Mcgee's bio of Perkins, where
Carl, while touring England, spends a long 1964(?) night in the studio with
the Beatles. The Fab 4 are like kids in a candy store. I
TWANGFEST: WANNA PLAY?
If so, better get your asses moving. The deadline is
January 25th.
A clarification: If you sent us a submission for the Edges
cd, that doesn't necessarily mean that you submitted to
play Twangfest as well. If you would like to play Twangfest,
you have to let us know
At 11:00 PM 1/19/99 EST, you wrote:
P2-ers,
I was digging through some old cassettes earlier today, adn come upon two Del
Lords albums, "Based On A True Story" and "Johnny Comes Marching Home."
Naturally, as I attempted to play them, they were both beyond even moderate
fidelity.
Does anyone out
Smilin' Jim (Jim, why are you always smilin'?) writes:
That depends on the kind of hat you're wearing, doesn't it? g
Have you ever been to Texas? When the Derailers played Saturday night there
were hundreds of people dancing. Of course it *is* kinda hard to dance to
Son Volt.
Kip writes:Although mutton chop sideburns might qualify for a Look,
standing aloof in the back of the bar with a bottle of Bud doesn't make
much a Dance.
Smilin' Jim (Jim, why are you always smilin'?) writes:
That depends on
Car Tunes
WEVL FM 90 Memphis
Monday's 4-6 PM
Cut my legs and call me shortly, damn me. I ran off and forgot my playlist on
the air room desk on Monday. Since it is probably in the air room trash now,
here is what I played, to the best of my recollection (and definitely, not
necessarily in
CK sugar coats it:
Wonder no more. Local H sucks. The only reason people go to their
shows is to see how much noise two guys can make. High Five Mother Fucker
indeed.
wasn't that the original principle behind the House of Freaks? (2 guys making
as much racket as they can?)
ObTwang: I
Neal Weiss wrote:
Jeez, I wouldn't wish that type of pressure on any band. Besides, I don't
think one can even find good enough odds to place a bet on such a thing.
Nirvana was a total freak of nature, a lot of talent and timing came into
play, but none of it, I don't believe was ever
The Iceman sayeth:
np: Joe Henry -Fuse
Tell us more! What is it like and when will it be released?
Jim Cox
JP Cold Spring wrote:
Of course, what we really need is our own Nirvana.
You mean like ANGRY JOHNNY THE KILLBILLIES?
g
Kip Loui wrote
But see, that's the thing...there's never going to be an
"Alt-Country Nirvana" because fifteen year-olds don't generally listen to
Steve Earle or Dale Watson
For you north-of-the-border types...
-Original Message-
From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Allan Benner
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The 16th Annual Tottenham Bluegrass Festival
Hi Folks;
Just a note to
In a message dated 1/20/99, 10:09:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If so, better get your asses moving. The deadline is
January 25th.
Is the 25th the date it needs to be postmarked by or the date it needs to be
received?
Deb
Kip writes: (Jim, why are you always smilin'?)
It's either the drugs or the atmosphere here in Austin.
That and the fact that I'm secretly in love with Babooski.
Jim, smilin'
announcing an ongoing free concert seriesThe TIP JARat
The Culver Saloon in Culver City__To
kick off this series, we will be hosting a concert to benefit the
LupusFoundation_Thursday,
January
As a weasel I snagged a prerelease from the mammoth people and its good,
real good. Back label says "Available on cd cassette March 9, 1999,
but you all know how that goes. I like this one better than Trampoline
but I'm sure some won't. More groove and less austere. Great writing
though.
They featured a Joe Henry tune on Felicity last night!! woohoo!! It
sounded like a male Kate Bush meets Sarah McLachlan. But I am open to
hearing the whole thing . . . I mean he is an old Ann Arbor-ite g!!
-jim
ps -- for those of you who missed it Felicity tried to have sex. It was a
Hey! Did they ever update that page on the web with the list of
performers for the weekend? Does anyone still have that url address?
thanks,
rebecca
I just got confirmation that Jim Roll is playing at the Nashville
Extravaganza on Saturday February 13th at Robert's Western Wear at
I just got confirmation that Jim Roll is playing at the Nashville
Extravaganza on Saturday February 13th at Robert's Western Wear at
Midnight. Hope to see you're cheery faces there.
Jim, smilin'
From: JOHN H SMITH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Merle Fans,
I received this warning in an e-mail message this morning and
called IBM to confirm the warning. The guy there said to heed all
warnings, because even if it's false, it's better to be safe than sorry.
John
Subject: VIRus
Date:
Please DO NOT send attachments to the list. For that matter, don't send
warnings about bogus viruses to the list. It's impossible to get a virus
from email (unless it comes with an attachment, and you open the
attachment).--don
I fwd 2 informations:
JON LANGFORD
- Solo Acoustic Show and exhibition opening
- Etchings, paintings and gravestones
at GAS
3417 Kaniff Ave., Hamtramick MI 48212
Saturday 6th February 1999
Limited space - call 313 892 4316 for information, reservations etc.
HeerBeeeMahnstaas at Schubas Tuesday
Shoot, even Haggard fans succumb to the gullibility virus! g
See http://www.gtii.com/gtii/nuhoaxes.html for a humorous, relevant
article.
Lianne
To tag onto Mike's post about the benefit show at the Culver Saloon, here
is a complete list of the acts who will be appearing (in order):
Dean Thomas Tim Ferguson of The Cousin Lovers
The Cross Country Band
Rick Shea (currently touring as one of Alvin's Guilty Men)
Waynesboro (featuring Randy
After leaving Split Enz and before forming the rather ordinary Schnell
Fenster Phil Judd had a band called the Swingers which had a couple of
hits in Aus NZ with _It Ain't What You Dance_ and the local classic
_Counting The Beat_ which I believe made #1 pop on both sides of the
Tasman.
Those
Does anyone out there know the details of Johnny's recent murder
conviction? The little details that have been available via Blue Chip have
made it all sound very weird. If anyone knows of a way to get to local
newspaper accounts or anything at all, I would appreciate it very much.
--david
Hello - quick note about Extravaganza, for those who are interested. We're
("we" being Tar Hut) are pleased to announce the addition of Nadine to our
showcase at Robert's Western Wear on Friday, February 12th.
Nadine is from St.Louis, and the St. Louis people can tell you just how much
ass they
I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then,
so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New england
where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks.
Joyce Linehan Artist Management
10 A Burt Street
Dorchester, MA
In a message dated 1/20/99 4:26:58 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone out there know the details of Johnny's recent murder
conviction? The little details that have been available via Blue Chip have
made it all sound very weird. If anyone knows of a way to get to local
newspaper
From the Twang Gang
We need your advice on
setting up our bank account so that none of the individual Twangfest
committee members has the account on his or her social security
number.
I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs
which demand that a band representative
Tom Smith wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs
which demand that a band representative provide a SS#
before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates
got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled
checks that other band members got paid for
Joyce Linehan wrote:
I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then,
so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New england
where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks.
Most of the people that used to repair stereo gear are still out there
At 04:53 PM 1/20/99 +, you wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs
which demand that a band representative provide a SS#
before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates
got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled
checks that other band
Joyce Linehan wrote:
I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one
then,
so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New
england
where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks.
Joyce...there is a great store in Billerica, MA called Needle in a
Many clubs, and especially festivals I play at want my SS # since I am the
ring leader. I fill out all the paper work they can dish out, and pay my band
with checks from my music account which is separate from my personal checking
account. I sometimes even pay myself with a check (that I later
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Joyce Linehan wrote:
I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then,
so I wasn't paying attention.
So, Joyce, been on Ebay recently? g
Bob (a recovering Ebay user myself)
Sounds like a Billy Childish record or sumthin'...
Anyhow, folks, fear not!
I am the saviour of AMERICANA(TM). I will fight with my last breath to
defend and save AMERICANA(TM) from the grips of the moneybags... in
Nashville, in NYC, in LA, in Austin... they're everywhere... and if they
hang
kip l wrote:
"this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets
discussed here? It's Old People Music"
Well, isn't the american population getting older? Aren't we (me, anyway
-- on the tail end) baby boomers the majority? I'm banking on the hope
that folks my age group -- now
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...But really, do I
care if Jay Farrar never sells 1,000,000 copies of anything? As long as
he can make a living in this silly business, I suspect he'll be
reasonably content and will continue making music.
Kip
And that's the key,
I've tried to get people my age (35) interested in alt.country. It is
hopeless. They may listen to the radio, but they do not buy CDs; they do
not have the initiative to dig out the good new bands. They are too busy
with careers, children, TeeVee, sports, lawn care. The people I know
stopped
At 04:42 PM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote:
he hasn't been convicted. yet. he has been indicted, and was supposed to show
up for a court hearing yesterday. he's presently out on a $50,000 bond.
Yes, that's right, my very big mistake. If anyone hears anything else,
though, please pass it along. --david
I wrote
Twenty years ago I had to go to Skip Groff's indie store in Rockville to hear the
new punk 45s -- now all I have to do is dial of twangcast.com...
jon weisberger wrote:
??? What the hell are you up to over there, Mike?
You mean that wasnt THe Angry Young Turds I heard on twangcast.com
Is it really necessary to toss around all the expletives in
these discussions. Your passion is understandable but is
f*%$ this and that really required to make a point. I would
argue that if kids are a focus to turn on to americana you
might not be the one to lead the way.
Do we have anything
* Bluegrass sees lift in 3 albums -- Earle, Skaggs, McCoury
By JIM BESSMAN
Billboard
* 01/18/99
BPI Entertainment News Wire
story
(c) Copyright 1999 BPI Communications, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
NEW YORK (BPI) -- With the possible exception of Alison
Ray Price
* Country music singer Ray Price. He was a close friend and
protege of Hank Williams. Price's hits include "Talk to Your Heart,"
"Don't Let the Stars Get in Your Eyes," "I'll be There," "Crazy Arms,"
"For the Good Times," and more. In 1996 he was inducted
By JIM PATTERSON
Associated Press Writer
* 01/20/99
AP Online
Entertainment
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - When Bill Anderson was asked to make his
first album in eight years, he thought it was a
'No Other'
The late Gene Clark, co-founder of the Byrds, was a unique man and
talent
BRIAN BURNES
* 01/17/99
The Kansas City Star
(Copyright 1999)
On Aug. 4, 1944, Kelly Clark and his wife, Jeanne, several months
pregnant,
Emmylou Can't Stay Away
Ray Purvis
* 01/15/99
The West Australian
Copyright West Australian Newspapers Limited, all rights reserved.
Between guesting on other people's albums and touring, the First Lady
* of contemporary country music, Emmylou Harris,
At 05:30 PM 1/20/1999 -0600, you wrote:
Hm. OK, you performing types -- and I know there's a few on the list --
knowing what we know about being signed, the infamous Steve Albini thing
and Jimmie Dale Gilmore's debt to Elektra and all, why does anyone still
*want* to be signed?
Bob
Good
* MAC WISEMAN TO STAR AT BLUEGRASS AND FIDDLE FEST
* 01/15/99
Orlando Sentinel
(Copyright 1999)
*Mac Wiseman happens to be the man who put bluegrass music on the
map, so it's easy to see why his humility can surprise anyone who
reads his long
Well, isn't the american population getting older? Aren't we (me, anyway
-- on the tail end) baby boomers the majority?
Actually, more kids have been born in the fifteen years between 1980-1995
then the fifteen years following the end of WWII. I've heard it referred to
as the Second Boom. (BTW:
Tom
I would suggest that the band/musician get a EIN #. Essentially a SS# for
your company(band). We get paid by check almost every show. 10-12 a month.
Thats how we do it and it makes keeping the books straight easier.
Dutch
Crowd of One
--
From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against
line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun.
Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a
bitty roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa 1970.
LR
At 08:10 PM 1/20/1999 EST, you wrote:
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against
line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun.
Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a
bitty roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa
rik writes:
Just had the chance to hear
Cisco at the music store I work at and distinctly Bakersfield influenced.
I heard Buck Owens riffs and a general Bakersfield feel(if thats possible)
and would recommend it to anyone who likes that aspect of "Americana"
I have to second the Cisco CD which I
Since you all lent your support when I was
recently terminated by an idiot boss, I thought it only far that I share
my good news with you. I will be PD and begin doing mornings Feb 1 on WCUL in
Culpeper VA and while the format is a bit too HNC for me, it does pay about 30%
better and I
Geoff Muldaur will be performing live on A Prairie Home Companion this coming
Saturday. Check your local etceteras.
Mary Katherine
In a message dated 1/20/99 11:55:30 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Personally, the loudest 2 piece I know (and had the joy to work with for a
few
years) was Cincinnati's own Croatan!
Terrific decibel-defying two-piece in the semi-ND mode: Cash Money. Highly
-Original Message-From:
Mike Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED]The best part is I get to go head to head with
the jerk that fired me and since I built the jerk's station up, I'll take
great pleasure in dismantling it 1 listener at a time.
Thanks for all your support P2!
Congrats on the new
Howdy,
Always late
Bob Wray was talking a few days ago about his visit to the Ryman and
mentioned Jim Ed Brown.
Specifically, he said: Can someone tell me something about the Jim Ed
Brown? Of all the old timers last night, he seemed to me the one who had
weathered the best. His voice was
Mike Hays wrote:
Since you all lent your support when I was recently terminated by an
idiot boss, I thought it only far that I share my good news with you.
I will be PD and begin doing mornings Feb 1 on WCUL in Culpeper VA and
while the format is a bit too HNC for me, it does pay about 30%
Howdy,
Remember my early vote for the best album of 1999? Apparently my support is
something akin to the kiss of death. Y'all better be glad I didn't include
Lucinda in my top 40 list last year. g
Foster's latest deserves to be seen and heard
01/15/99
MARY COLURSO
The
.heh heh. I love tales of justice.
Douglas Noss wrote:
I would suggest that the band/musician get a EIN #. Essentially a SS# for
your company(band). We get paid by check almost every show. 10-12 a month.
Thats how we do it and it makes keeping the books straight easier.
Thanks for the tip; I'll certainly look into this.
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
This public service web site is there so that you can check to see if these are real
or just hoaxes. As you will see if you visit that site, Join the Crew is a
hoax.
John
Title: CIAC Internet Hoaxes
Internet
I don't think I've seen this mentioned here, but happening as I type (10
PM East) There is a Son Volt concert being webcast at liveconcerts.com.
My connection is still trying to make it through, but I figure that Better
Than Ezra is still performing now...
Chad Cosper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against
line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun.
Disco. Crappy music from records, and it looks dopey.
Stuart
who confesses to getting suckered by the dancin fool into line dance lessons. I
had
At 06:39 PM 1/20/99 -0700, you wrote:
At 08:10 PM 1/20/1999 EST, LindaRay wrote:
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line
dancing. I think it's a lot of fun.
Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a bitty
roadhouse
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
This public service web site is there so that you can check to see if
these are real or just hoaxes. As you will
see if you visit that site, Join the Crew is a
hoax.
The only thing worse than hoax spam is people who send things to lists
that take 20
At 05:56 PM 1/20/99 -0800, you wrote:
kip l wrote:
"this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets
discussed here? It's Old People Music"
Well, isn't the american population getting older?
I am anyway. I hope to continue doing so as well
Jeff Wall
Geff King writes:
You know, working on the fringes of the environmental industry as I do,
the term 'sustainable development' comes up a lot. Makes me think
of 'Americana' as perhaps a sustainable form of music - just enough
popularity and acclaim to let artists make a living without having to
At 07:03 PM 1/20/1999 -0800, you wrote:
Gong! (bad joke) g The Achy Breaky Heart line dance went out of
fashion about 5 years ago. And contrary to popular "opinion," Billy
Ray was not the originator of line dancing. (Ex: The Electric Slide has
been around so long... it was probably being
By the mid-1980s, band members were clearing less than $100 a week each and
making their own albums on a shoestring. Players came and went.
Twang content: For a 5-year stretch in the mid-90's the bass player in the
Numbers Band was my good friend Bill Watson, currently part of that
swingin'
Congratulations on your job!!!
Have to share my good news. Too soon to celebrate yet but I got an interview
for the job I applied for in Denver!!!
I think I asked earlier if there's anyone on this list out there? I realize
the music scene isn't the same as Athens but maybe I'm growing
Rik makes a couple of points that really bug me: It's all relative and
transitional at best because in 5-10 years these tunes we listen to now
will be gathering dust in some used CD section of your local Media Play.
Please tell me why this is a good thing. Rik, have you listened to country
Rik wrote:
Also, if you haven't gotten around to picking up the VA-Blastered
tribute CD by all means do so. Personally hadn't heard of several
of the artists on the CD but the thrill of discovering new artists like
The Grandsons,Last Train Home, Highway 13 is the reason why
"Americana" is so
re: I am the AMERICANA(TM)
ladies and gents.I'll vouch for him. The great babooski speaks!
Kevin from Belleville
At 03:50 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
Is it really necessary to toss around all the expletives in
these discussions.
No, it's not really necessary, but we all have our little faults. Yates is
a folkie, Cantwell is a midget, Weisberger loves Garth, and I cuss. But I
guess I did go overboard this
At 11:20 PM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote:
Rik wrote:
Also, if you haven't gotten around to picking up the VA-Blastered
tribute CD by all means do so. Personally hadn't heard of several
of the artists on the CD but the thrill of discovering new artists like
The Grandsons,Last Train Home, Highway 13
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