Re: Postfix smtp relay in DMZ

2013-12-10 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 08:55:29AM +0100, Robert Sander wrote: It is not clear to me why one would allow the inbound delivery of an e-mail message (with potentially malicious links or attachments), but would not allow a connections to an LDAP or SQL server. The latter seems far less

Request Help with TLS Error

2013-12-10 Thread Mark Jamsek
Trying to send mail results in this error from Thunderbird client: Sending of message failed. An error occurred sending mail: Unable to establish a secure link with SMTP server mail.bsdbox.co using STARTTLS since it doesn't advertise that feature. Switch off STARTTLS for that server

OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
Hello, There has been some whispers about considering migrating our mail systems to Exchange Server. I want to try to nip this in the bud. I would like to ask for some help with providing some kind of comparison of large(r) commercial companies use of email systems... specifically, those

OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
Hello, There has been some whispers about considering migrating our mail systems to Exchange Server, and I want to try to nip this in the bud if possible. I would like to ask for some help with providing some kind of comparison of mid to large(r) commercial companies use of email systems...

OT: regex sought for header_checks

2013-12-10 Thread skapter
A request for assistance from any regex guru’s. I am trying to block/hold/identify the following FROM field in header_checks: “displayn...@example.com” anyn...@otherexample.com The sender is trying to spoof example.com in the Display Name part of the FROM. I am not concerned with:

Re: Misdeliveries of messages

2013-12-10 Thread LuKreme
In our previous episode (Monday, 09-Dec-2013), li...@rhsoft.net said: * the local part must not contain special chars Is that your policy or are you claiming that is a standard? RFC 6530 covers UTF-8 email addresses and how they should be handled my MTAs. -- People who would not believe a

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread DTNX Postmaster
On 10 Dec 2013, at 14:57, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: There has been some whispers about considering migrating our mail systems to Exchange Server, and I want to try to nip this in the bud if possible. I would like to ask for some help with providing some kind of

Re: Misdeliveries of messages

2013-12-10 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 10.12.2013 15:18, schrieb LuKreme: In our previous episode (Monday, 09-Dec-2013), li...@rhsoft.net said: * the local part must not contain special chars Is that your policy or are you claiming that is a standard? it is fact RFC 6530 covers UTF-8 email addresses and how they should be

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/12/2013 13:57, Charles Marcus wrote: Hello, There has been some whispers about considering migrating our mail systems to Exchange Server, and I want to try to nip this in the bud if possible. I would like to ask for some help with providing some kind of comparison of mid to large(r)

Re: Misdeliveries of messages

2013-12-10 Thread Wietse Venema
In our previous episode (Monday, 09-Dec-2013), li...@rhsoft.net said: * the local part must not contain special chars LuKreme: Is that your policy or are you claiming that is a standard? RFC 6530 covers UTF-8 email addresses and how they should be handled my MTAs. Postfix does not currently

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-12-10 9:23 AM, DTNX Postmaster postmas...@dtnx.net wrote: Do your own comparison based on the TCO of what you have, vs. what you will need for Exchange Server. Focus on the needs of the company over a five-year time period. Include the higher hardware requirements, licensing, extra

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.12.2013 15:42, schrieb Charles Marcus: My question has to do with the POLITICAL aspect of this question of what constitutes 'normal' for mid to large(r) companies. what means political ? such as with closed source you never know about backdoors ? Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer --

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread DTNX Postmaster
On 10 Dec 2013, at 15:42, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2013-12-10 9:23 AM, DTNX Postmaster postmas...@dtnx.net wrote: Do your own comparison based on the TCO of what you have, vs. what you will need for Exchange Server. Focus on the needs of the company over a five-year

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Edward Rudd
On Dec 10, 2013, at 9:49 , Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 10.12.2013 15:42, schrieb Charles Marcus: My question has to do with the POLITICAL aspect of this question of what constitutes 'normal' for mid to large(r) companies. what means political ? such as with closed source you never know

Re: OT: regex sought for header_checks

2013-12-10 Thread skapter
So if the FROM address matches @example.com.* BUT does not have a .*@example.com I want a regex to flag it. (via a colleague): This appears to be work for me fine. test.regex: if /^From:.*@example\.com.*/ !/^From:.*@example\.com.*.*@example\.com/ HOLD FROM Domain mismatch endif # postmap -q

Complex external mail filtering setup with postfix.

2013-12-10 Thread Edward Rudd
I have a rather complicated postfix setup that I'm needing some thoughts/input on how to accomplish.. (and what minimum version of Postfix I might need to use to get it done). History / Existing infrastructure. So, we are selling Spam filtering / archiving email services through an external

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-12-10 10:02 AM, Edward Rudd ur...@outoforder.cc wrote: You have been lucky where you work then:) The political nature comes in when some Executive @ the company gets it stuck in his head that we *HAVE* to switch to Exchange but does the dog and pony show of letting the IT department

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/12/2013 15:23, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2013-12-10 10:02 AM, Edward Rudd ur...@outoforder.cc wrote: You have been lucky where you work then:) The political nature comes in when some Executive @ the company gets it stuck in his head that we *HAVE* to switch to Exchange but does the dog

Re: Complex external mail filtering setup with postfix.

2013-12-10 Thread Wietse Venema
I would suggest to separate the sending and receiving mail streams completely. Sending stream: All mail is submitted to one or more dedicated servers that receive mail only from local systems. They forward all mail (internal and external) to your archival service. Receiving stream: All mail for

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-12-10 10:28 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: Personally, it seems to me that if company A (that is an all Microsoft/Exchange shop) wants to buy company B, that is not using Exchange (say, uses SOGo, with clients being able to choose between Outlook or Thunderbird for their

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-12-10 10:42 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org wrote: But, alas, I don't believe there are any full-fledged, viable, open-source solutions that supply Outlook-compliant mail *and* calendaring. SOGo is just that... supposedly (we haven't used it yet). According to the SOGo people,

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
You say mail, but you mention Exchange and Zimbra. If you're just looking for mail, I'd recommend Postfix as your MTA, and Dovecot or Cyrus as your IMAP, with a Roundcube web-based front end (and fat clients available for thems that want 'em -- though Roundcube is really pretty awesome: I'm

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Giles Coochey
On 10/12/2013 15:36, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2013-12-10 10:28 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: Personally, it seems to me that if company A (that is an all Microsoft/Exchange shop) wants to buy company B, that is not using Exchange (say, uses SOGo, with clients being able to choose

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread moparisthebest
Hello, I don't know if you want to go this far as it requires slight customization, but my setup is postfix+postfixadmin+dovecot with owncloud providing storage (webdav), calendar (caldav), and contacts (carddav) as well as a nice web interface if you prefer to use that. Roundcube provides

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Charles Marcus wrote: On 2013-12-10 10:42 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org wrote: But, alas, I don't believe there are any full-fledged, viable, open-source solutions that supply Outlook-compliant mail *and* calendaring. SOGo is just that... supposedly (we haven't used it yet). According to

Re: Request Help with TLS Error

2013-12-10 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:57:56PM +1100, Mark Jamsek wrote: |Dec 10 11:36:03 mail postfix/smtpd[57120]: warning: [highlight]cannot get RSA certificate from file /etc/ssl/cert/dovecot.pem: disabling TLS support New spectacle prescription recommended: :-)

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread John
'You have been lucky where you work then:) The political nature comes in when some Executive @ the company gets it stuck in his head that we *HAVE* to switch to Exchange' Usually because some marketing shark from M$ has started the FUD campaign by whispered in his ear do you want people to

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: Hello, There has been some whispers about considering migrating our mail systems to Exchange Server. I want to try to nip this in the bud. I would like to ask for some help with providing some kind of comparison of large(r) commercial

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.12.2013 21:08, schrieb Bron Gondwana: For what it's worth, Cyrus will have caldav and carddav support soon. There's a beta branch based on the 2.4 release, and it's close to ready to put directly into the master branch too. We're planning to release a web based calendar client and port

Re: Complex external mail filtering setup with postfix.

2013-12-10 Thread Edward Rudd
As this is a hosted server we are building there is no local. And it's supporting multiple companies/domains. Everyone would be remote and using a variety of clients (mostly our webmail interface, apple mail, iOS devices, thunderbird). And in terms of hardware, ideally I would like to keep

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread Jure Simsic
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.comwrote: Hello, Does anyone know of any decent non-biased studies that have been done, hopefully relatively recently (last few years), that provide such a comparison? You'll have a hard time finding any unbiased studies

Re: OT: Large corporate email systems - Exchange vs open source *nix based

2013-12-10 Thread jeffrey j donovan
On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: Does anyone know of any decent non-biased studies that have been done, hopefully relatively recently (last few years), that provide such a comparison? Greetings, I just went through this with a new administrator,

Re: Request Help with TLS Error

2013-12-10 Thread Mark Jamsek
On 11/12/2013 5:50 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:57:56PM +1100, Mark Jamsek wrote: |Dec 10 11:36:03 mail postfix/smtpd[57120]: warning: [highlight]cannot get RSA certificate from file /etc/ssl/cert/dovecot.pem: disabling TLS support New spectacle

Request for help with SMTP Authentication

2013-12-10 Thread Mark Jamsek
Thanks to another subscriber, I have resolved my TLS problem. However, I cannot get SMTP authentication working, no matter what I try. My client sends mail without any errors; however, /var/log/maillog reports connection refused errors and recipients are not receiving my emails. This is due to