Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread jose-marcio martins da cruz
On 02/12/2017 07:06 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. After coming to IBM research in November 1996, I spent most of December and January making notes on paper. I knew that writing a mail system was more work than any of my prior

Re: Best way to run Postfix on a single server for multiple domains

2017-02-12 Thread Nitin N
Dear Rob (I hope that is your name), Thank you for your views/suggestion. My replies are inline tagged with my name, as in [Nitin:] On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:53 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 01:55:26PM +0530, Nitin N wrote: > > Now, I have to migrate to a new

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 12.02.2017 um 19:06 schrieb Wietse Venema: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. > After coming to IBM research in November 1996, I spent most of > December and January making notes on paper. I knew that writing a > mail system was more work than any of my prior

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread ghe
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:28:17 -0500 D'Arcy Cain wrote: > On 2017-02-12 01:06 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. > > Congratulations and thanks! Me too, as they say :-) A reasonably straightforward, secure, and

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Voytek
On 13 February 2017 9:16:18 AM AEDT, mar...@fredo.co.uk wrote: >Dear Wietse, > >In all the years I cannot think of any other software I have used that >has maintained such an >extraordinarily high standard of functionality, stability, security and >usability. >(I started hosting in 1994). >

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:26:55 + Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > host -t txt _dmarc.artifact-software.com > > "v=DMARC1; pct=100; p=quarantine; adkim=r; aspf=r" > > > > And as this mail is sent by cloud9, opendmarc does what it is > > supposed to do. > > Say no to

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
wie...@porcupine.org skrev den 2017-02-12 20:59: DKIM works just fine across multiple hops of forwarding as long as one does not modify the message in transit (someone said that DKIM is hop-by-hop; they don't understand what DKIM does). If anyone's DKIM verifier fails on this posting, let me

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 21:26, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > DO NOT publish DMARC policy. DO NOT check DMARC policy, except > perhaps as a small bump in a composite spam score. The "DO NOT publish DMARC policy" is a bit extreme, IMHO. I find it useful, and without any bad consequences, to publish a DMARC

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread markjt
Dear Wietse, In all the years I cannot think of any other software I have used that has maintained such an extraordinarily high standard of functionality, stability, security and usability. (I started hosting in 1994). Your work has been, and is, a key part of my humble Internet career. Many

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:10:05PM +0100, richard lucassen wrote: > host -t txt _dmarc.artifact-software.com > "v=DMARC1; pct=100; p=quarantine; adkim=r; aspf=r" > > And as this mail is sent by cloud9, opendmarc does what it is supposed > to do. Say no to DMARC. Don't make the mistake of

Re: similar email address to one account?

2017-02-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Maurizio Caloro: [ Charset windows-1252 converted... ] > hello > i have this already done, with "Aliases", but here i don't have success! > > mauri...@caloro.ch exist all ready but i will that m...@caloro.ch are > available > from public, but here i become the message "User unknown in local >

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
sid-milter? dont use it, its still checking sender-id that is not spf

Re: similar email address to one account?

2017-02-12 Thread Maurizio Caloro
hello i have this already done, with "Aliases", but here i don't have success! mauri...@caloro.ch exist all ready but i will that m...@caloro.ch are available from public, but here i become the message "User unknown in local recipient table". # /etc/aliases maurizio:

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 01:06:42PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. It is good to see thanks from users who've been with you all for almost the entire time. By that standard, I came on board late, when Bennett Todd introduced me

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:01:05 +0100 richard lucassen wrote: It must be OpenDMARC: host -t txt artifact-software.com "v=spf1 mx -all" host -t txt _dmarc.artifact-software.com "v=DMARC1; pct=100; p=quarantine; adkim=r; aspf=r" And as this mail is sent by cloud9,

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread richard lucassen
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:43:09 -0500 (EST) wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > > I'm playing with a new setup and I'm mucking about with it quite a > > lot of course, but sometimes I get messages sent to the hold queue > > and I didn't postsuper them there. What could be the reason for >

Re: similar email address to one account?

2017-02-12 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2017-02-12 Maurizio Caloro wrote: > i will that following e-mail Adresses (public) goes to one recipent > address (local) > > n...@example.com = myname > shortn...@example.com = myname > > i need to open differents accounts?, or i configure this with the > Virtual maps? Virtual maps

Re: messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread Wietse Venema
richard lucassen: > Hello list, > > I'm playing with a new setup and I'm mucking about with it quite a lot > of course, but sometimes I get messages sent to the hold queue and > I didn't postsuper them there. What could be the reason for this? The > doc

messages getting in the hold queue

2017-02-12 Thread richard lucassen
Hello list, I'm playing with a new setup and I'm mucking about with it quite a lot of course, but sometimes I get messages sent to the hold queue and I didn't postsuper them there. What could be the reason for this? The doc http://www.postfix.org/QSHAPE_README.html#hold_queue does not clarify

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 02/12/17 13:48, Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 12.02.17 19:06, Wietse Venema wrote: > >> Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. > > Kudos, and thank you for freeing me (and consequently my customers) of > Exim and Sendmail. ;-) Postfix is one of the most useful

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Josh Good: > Old-style forwarding is when the forwarding MTA forwards the message > re-using the original Return-Path in the SMTP envelope, instead of using > its own address in the Return-Path. Because if the forwarding MTA uses > its own address in the Return-Path while forwarding the email, SPF

similar email address to one account?

2017-02-12 Thread Maurizio Caloro
hello friends i will that following e-mail Adresses (public) goes to one recipent address (local) n...@example.com = myname shortn...@example.com = myname i need to open differents accounts?, or i configure this with the Virtual maps? me problem are that i don't understand this

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Michael Ströder
Wietse Venema wrote: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. Wietse, don't remember the exact date but probably a couple of months after your first release I've migrated a company's mail servers to postfix. postfix was chosen after reading some of your comments

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 13:06, Wietse Venema wrote: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. > After coming to IBM research in November 1996, I spent most of > December and January making notes on paper. I knew that writing a > mail system was more work than any of my prior

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 18:32, Dominic Raferd wrote: > On 12 February 2017 at 12:54, Josh Good wrote: > > > Well, yes, SPF breaks old-style forwarding. This is well known and > > undisputed. > > > > Many old-style SMTP "customs" no longer apply, like open relays, etc. > > > >

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 12.02.2017 um 19:06 schrieb Wietse Venema: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. > After coming to IBM research in November 1996, I spent most of > December and January making notes on paper. I knew that writing a > mail system was more work than any of my prior

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 12.02.17 19:06, Wietse Venema wrote: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. Kudos, and thank you for freeing me (and consequently my customers) of Exim and Sendmail. ;-) Postfix is one of the most useful software systems I have the pleasure of working with, and

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Ron Wheeler
A great contribution to the Internet. Your 20 years of fantastic support and sustained commitment has made Postix successful. Thanks Ron On 12/02/2017 1:12 PM, Dominic Raferd wrote: On 12 February 2017 at 18:06, Wietse Venema wrote: Last month it was 20 years ago that

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Dominic Raferd
On 12 February 2017 at 12:54, Josh Good wrote: > On 2017 Feb 12, 07:53, Dominic Raferd wrote: >> >> To go back to a point made by OP about SPF being 'good', it seems to me >> that SPF is fundamentally and irretrievably flawed - and frankly should >> be dropped. > >

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread D'Arcy Cain
On 2017-02-12 01:06 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. Congratulations and thanks! -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP: sip:da...@vex.net

Re: Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Dominic Raferd
On 12 February 2017 at 18:06, Wietse Venema wrote: > Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code... Amazing what a mighty oak has grown from such an acorn. Thanks to you for the original planting and to all those, including you, who have nurtured its

Postfix 20 years ago

2017-02-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Last month it was 20 years ago that I started writing Postfix code. After coming to IBM research in November 1996, I spent most of December and January making notes on paper. I knew that writing a mail system was more work than any of my prior projects. The oldest tarball, dated 19970220,

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Michael Ströder
Josh Good wrote: > On 2017 Feb 12, 16:17, Michael Ströder wrote: >> Josh Good wrote: >>> On 2017 Feb 11, 19:18, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: So technically integrity is assured from server to server, but not between clients and server. >>> >>> That is correct. DKIM is for MTA-to-MTA

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 16:17, Michael Ströder wrote: > Josh Good wrote: > > On 2017 Feb 11, 19:18, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > >> So technically integrity is assured from server to server, but not between > >> clients > >> and server. > > > > That is correct. DKIM is for MTA-to-MTA integrity. > >

Re: The "from" header looks like paypal but it is coming from somewhere else.

2017-02-12 Thread P.V.Anthony
On 11/02/2017 10:38, /dev/rob0 wrote: This appears to be from Mailchimp, so reporting it as abuse is likely to yield some satisfactory results. Thanks to everyone for the advice. P.V.Anthony smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Michael Ströder
Josh Good wrote: > On 2017 Feb 11, 19:18, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: >> So technically integrity is assured from server to server, but not between >> clients >> and server. > > That is correct. DKIM is for MTA-to-MTA integrity. There are no widely used MUA implementations making use of DKIM

Re: [postfix-users] Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 12.02.2017 08:39, Kiss Gabor (Bitman) wrote: > Maybe DKIM verification should ignore list tags in the subject > if the first attempt was unsuccesful. > I.e. I could imagine a smarter canonicalization. There can be no "interpretation" of what the signing party distributes. I deliberately use

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 08:14, John Allen wrote: > Josh Good - your DKIM signaturesare showing up as invalid. I don't see how that is possible, given that I currently do not do DKIM signing of my posts to this list. Perhaps did you mean to say that my posts to the list are getting a DMARC result of

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread John Allen
Josh Good - your DKIM signaturesare showing up as invalid. On 2017-02-12 7:54 AM, Josh Good wrote: On 2017 Feb 12, 07:53, Dominic Raferd wrote: To go back to a point made by OP about SPF being 'good', it seems to me that SPF is fundamentally and irretrievably flawed - and frankly should be

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 07:53, Dominic Raferd wrote: > > To go back to a point made by OP about SPF being 'good', it seems to me > that SPF is fundamentally and irretrievably flawed - and frankly should > be dropped. Wow! Those are big words. > The fact that it works in 99.5% of situations just makes

Re: [postfix-users] Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Josh Good
On 2017 Feb 12, 08:39, Kiss Gabor (Bitman) wrote: > > > Further, how does DKIM prove the message wasn't altered? To my knowledge, > > > SPF proves the message came from a qualified server and DKIM proves the > > > FQDN > > > is a match.  > > > > DKIM signs a hash of the canonicalized message

Re: Why no List-ID header in the postfix-users posts?

2017-02-12 Thread Juri Haberland
On 12.02.2017 03:13, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: > Theres no relay between me and postfix. And this is the report: > > Feedback-Type: auth-failure > Version: 1 > User-Agent: OpenDMARC-Filter/1.3.2 > Auth-Failure: dmarc > Authentication-Results: mx01.nausch.org; dmarc=fail header.from=sebbe.eu >