Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread raf
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 07:23:26PM +0100, Nick Howitt wrote: > I am having problems replying to the list as it keeps bouncing. This time I > am trying removing the preceding messages, > Is this an uphill battle? Excluding docs, on my system I get: > > [root@server ~]# grep MAILER-DAEMON /usr/*

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread raf
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 08:39:41AM +0300, Vladimir Mishonov wrote: > What's most problematic is that while both issues #1 and #2 can be worked > around for SOME templates, there appear to be a number of hard-coded > templates that cannot be changed without recompiling Postfix. I understand >

Re: AW: Spam pass the filter

2021-09-18 Thread Christian Schmitz
On Saturday 18 September 2021 10:13:41 ludic...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > pcre header checks we use. Not all the time, depends on spam volume from > these valuable enterprises. > > #/sjmedia.us/ REJECT A mass mail service abused by criminals > #/bmsend.com/ REJECT A mass mail service abused by

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Vladimir Mishonov
On 2021-09-18 21:22, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: The issue is entirely cosmetic, and the only audience for these notices is the postmaster, not naïve users. So unless Wietse is feeling exceedingly generous with his time, I don't expect to see this change any time soon. If someone wants to

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Nick Howitt
I am having problems replying to the list as it keeps bouncing. This time I am trying removing the preceding messages, Is this an uphill battle? Excluding docs, on my system I get: [root@server ~]# grep MAILER-DAEMON /usr/* -r Binary file /usr/bin/fetchmail matches Binary file /usr/bin/procmail

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 08:46:15PM +0300, Vladimir Mishonov wrote: > I see. Would it be too much to ask to add a template for postmaster > notifications as well then (notify_classes = protocol etc.)? Like I said > before, it appears that MAILER-DAEMON is hardcoded in those, and it > looks like

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Vladimir Mishonov
On 2021-09-18 20:37, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: The "MAILER-DAEMON" form is a long-standing heritage from Sendmail, appears in "countless" aliases files, and may even in some environments be subject to case-sensitive matching. As much as you may feel it is "SHOUTING", on balance I think we should

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 08:39:41AM +0300, Vladimir Mishonov wrote: > 1. You probably don't like when people shout at you, right? Well, > all-caps looks a lot like someone's shouting at you. It'd look better if > it were all-lowercase. The "MAILER-DAEMON" form is a long-standing heritage from

AW: Spam pass the filter

2021-09-18 Thread ludicree
Hi, pcre header checks we use. Not all the time, depends on spam volume from these valuable enterprises. #/sjmedia.us/ REJECT A mass mail service abused by criminals #/bmsend.com/ REJECT A mass mail service abused by criminals #/mailgun.net/ REJECT A mass mail service abused by criminals

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Wietse Venema
Vladimir Mishonov: > 2. While the above is mostly for aesthetical reasons, there is one other > thing: the templates for mailer-daemon messages have obsolete "From" and > "To" header formats, e.g.: > > > From: mailer-dae...@mydomain.com (Mail Delivery System) > > To: postmas...@mydomain.com

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Vladimir Mishonov
On September 18, 2021 1:37:19 PM GMT+03:00, Nick Howitt wrote: > > >On 18/09/2021 11:32, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: >> >> Dnia 18.09.2021 o godz. 08:39:41 Vladimir Mishonov pisze: >>> 2. While the above is mostly for aesthetical reasons, there is one >>> other thing: the templates for mailer-daemon

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Nick Howitt
On 18/09/2021 11:32, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Dnia 18.09.2021 o godz. 08:39:41 Vladimir Mishonov pisze: 2. While the above is mostly for aesthetical reasons, there is one other thing: the templates for mailer-daemon messages have obsolete "From" and "To" header formats, e.g.: From:

Re: Rewriting the MAILER-DAEMON address and header formats

2021-09-18 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 18.09.2021 o godz. 08:39:41 Vladimir Mishonov pisze: > 2. While the above is mostly for aesthetical reasons, there is one > other thing: the templates for mailer-daemon messages have obsolete > "From" and "To" header formats, e.g.: > > >From: mailer-dae...@mydomain.com (Mail Delivery System)

Re: Problems emailing bell.net or sympatico.ca addresses

2021-09-18 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 18.09.2021 o godz. 09:27:47 raf pisze: > > This forum might help, it contains complaints about this, > but it's only for Bell customers: > > https://www.dslreports.com/forum/sympatdirect~days=365~start=30 > > Hmm, maybe not. You can see the topic titles, but it doesn't let > you see