Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-16 Thread Peter
I do realize that this thread probably shouldn't be continued, however I see some gross miss-statements here that need correcting so that someone browsing the thread won't be mislead by them at a later time... On 06/16/2013 01:58 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: smtpd_tls_auth_only (default: no)

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Jan Kohnert
Am Samstag, 15. Juni 2013, 04:03:44 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Jan Kohnert skrev den 2013-06-15 03:58: Well, no, it disables AUTH without tls/ssl but not STARTTLS, IIRC. starttls have nothing to do with auth or not Come on, read the documentation:

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jan Kohnert skrev den 2013-06-15 10:57: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_tls_auth_only do i need to tell it in --verbose ? starttls have nothing to do with auth, just becurse this option have tls and auth in one line does not make tls/ssl needed to make auth work -- senders

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 06/15/2013 12:13 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: Jan Kohnert skrev den 2013-06-15 10:57: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_tls_auth_only do i need to tell it in --verbose ? starttls have nothing to do with auth, just becurse this option have tls and auth in one line does not make

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jeroen Geilman skrev den 2013-06-15 15:35: Quoted from the above documentation: smtpd_tls_auth_only (default: no) When TLS encryption is optional in the Postfix SMTP server, do not announce or accept SASL authentication over unencrypted connections. it does not say it disables

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Wietse Venema
Benny Pedersen: Jeroen Geilman skrev den 2013-06-15 15:35: Quoted from the above documentation: smtpd_tls_auth_only (default: no) When TLS encryption is optional in the Postfix SMTP server, do not announce or accept SASL authentication over unencrypted connections.

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
wie...@porcupine.org skrev den 2013-06-15 16:13: The server does not announce or accept AUTH, therefore AUTH it is disabled. auth does not need starttls, if auth is not anounced then auth is disabled -- senders that put my email into body content will deliver it to my own trashcan, so if

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-15 Thread Wietse Venema
smtpd_tls_auth_only (default: no) When TLS encryption is optional in the Postfix SMTP server, do not announce or accept SASL authentication over unencrypted connections. Benny Pedersen: auth does not need starttls, if auth is not anounced then auth is disabled AUTH requires

STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Nabil Alsharif
Hi everyone, I just setup postfix on my server but I'm having a problem with TLS. I have TLS configured, there are no errors in the log, but the server does not announce TLS support.Here is the output relevant output from 'postconf -n', the full output is at the end of the message:

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Nabil Alsharif skrev den 2013-06-15 01:57: please disable html smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_ is for sending smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks reject_unauth_destination smtpd_tls_CAfile =

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Wietse Venema
Nabil Alsharif: Hi everyone, I just setup postfix on my server but I'm having a problem with TLS. I have TLS configured, there are no errors in the log, but the server does not announce TLS support.Here is the output relevant output from 'postconf -n', the full output is at the end of

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Nabil Alsharif
On 06/15/2013 02:38 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: Nabil Alsharif skrev den 2013-06-15 01:57: please disable html My bad.. smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_ is for sending Ok so these two options are telling Postfix to check if STARTTLS is offered by the peer and

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Nabil Alsharif
On 06/15/2013 02:39 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Have you looked at all the warning messages in the maillog file? Yes I have, there are no errors or warnings. 'postfix check' doesn't return any warnings or errors either.

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread /dev/rob0
by smtpd_tls_security_level. Like I saidthe server does not announce STARTTLS: What you showed us should have announced STARTTLS. I would guess the problem is related to the single file certificate+key+CAs. Since you mentioned upthread that no errors are logged, check your syslogd (try restarting

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Nabil Alsharif skrev den 2013-06-15 02:59: smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_ is for sending Ok so these two options are telling Postfix to check if STARTTLS is offered by the peer and use TLS if available, right? correct smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
/dev/rob0 skrev den 2013-06-15 03:22: What you showed us should have announced STARTTLS. I would guess the problem is related to the single file certificate+key+CAs. Since you mentioned upthread that no errors are logged, check your syslogd (try restarting it.) These errors would be logged

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Jan Kohnert
Am Samstag, 15. Juni 2013, 03:45:02 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Nabil Alsharif skrev den 2013-06-15 02:59: smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes this disable starttls since we already is using ssl/tls now huh? This part I don't quite understand. How are we disabling TLS? Where was it enabled

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jan Kohnert skrev den 2013-06-15 03:58: Well, no, it disables AUTH without tls/ssl but not STARTTLS, IIRC. starttls have nothing to do with auth or not auth users can still send plain passwords over unsecured smtpd client connections, starttls just secure there passwords, so tcpdumpers cant

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread /dev/rob0
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 03:45:02AM +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: Nabil Alsharif skrev den 2013-06-15 02:59: smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_ is for sending Ok so these two options are telling Postfix to check if STARTTLS is offered by the peer and use TLS if

Re: STARTTLS not announced?!

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
/dev/rob0 skrev den 2013-06-15 05:27: I think the OP will have to fix the logging problem before we can solve this issue. it would be more relative simple to use more default settings, if OP is unsure what to do sorry if i write it such it could be missunderstandelble :( -- senders that