Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:44:30AM +0200, Gerald Galster wrote: > The question is how likely it is such a server is dropping tls support > after that work. I'd guess it will be unlikely and errors mostly occur > due to expired certificates or other (temporary) configuration issues. As a matter

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Gerald Galster
>>> Sure, but the forensic value of the signal is rather weak, since you >>> learn nothing about the names in the certificate, and anyone can get >>> a certificate from Let's Encrypt. So your connection was to some >>> server that had some certificate, ... now what? >> >> You'll get the

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:44:30AM +0200, Gerald Galster wrote: > > Sure, but the forensic value of the signal is rather weak, since you > > learn nothing about the names in the certificate, and anyone can get > > a certificate from Let's Encrypt. So your connection was to some > > server that

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Gerald Galster
>>> I am curious why with opportunistic TLS (security level may), you're >>> bothering to take any action to tweak the entirely cosmetic certificate >>> path validation status? >> >> What about parsing the maillog and adding those trusted servers to a table >> in order to enforce a higher tls

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 07:53:55PM +0200, Gerald Galster wrote: > > I am curious why with opportunistic TLS (security level may), you're > > bothering to take any action to tweak the entirely cosmetic certificate > > path validation status? > > What about parsing the maillog and adding those

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Gerald Galster
>> Thank you for the answers. I'm reading the documentation and we need to >> adjust the smtp_tls_CAfile indeed. I will adjust this as soon as >> possible and I will report the result here. > > I am curious why with opportunistic TLS (security level may), you're > bothering to take any action to

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 01:38:43PM -0300, Fabio S. Schmidt wrote: > Hello David and Gerald, > > Thank you for the answers. I'm reading the documentation and we need to > adjust the smtp_tls_CAfile indeed. I will adjust this as soon as > possible and I will report the result here. I am curious

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Fabio S. Schmidt
Hello David and Gerald, Thank you for the answers. I'm reading the documentation and we need to adjust the smtp_tls_CAfile indeed. I will adjust this as soon as possible and I will report the result here. Best regards Fabio Em sex., 17 de set. de 2021 às 11:50, Gerald Galster escreveu: > >

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Gerald Galster
> I'm sorry if this is a frequent question, but we have deployed a new Postfix > server and we have enabled Opportunistic TLS. We have noticed that even with > a valid certificate when connecting to gmail servers the Untrusted TLS > connection is being displayed. > > I have updated the

Re: Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread David Bürgin
‘What do "Anonymous", "Untrusted", etc. in Postfix logging mean?’ http://www.postfix.org/FORWARD_SECRECY_README.html#status

Untrusted TLS connection when sending emails to Google

2021-09-17 Thread Fabio S. Schmidt
Hello, I'm sorry if this is a frequent question, but we have deployed a new Postfix server and we have enabled Opportunistic TLS. We have noticed that even with a valid certificate when connecting to gmail servers the Untrusted TLS connection is being displayed. I have updated the ca-certificate