Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-20 Thread Grant
zen is, for all practical purposes, perfect. You will not get false positives as everyone in zen is either a confirmed spammer or in the PBL (policy block list). That is to say, no one in zen should be connecting to your mailserver to send mail, ever. http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ zen

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-20 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:58:44AM CEST, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com said: . http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ zen blocks these categories: SBL Direct UBE sources, spam operations spam services CSS Direct snowshoe spam sources detected via automation CBL (3rd party exploits such as proxies,

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-20 Thread Grant
http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ zen blocks these categories: SBL Direct UBE sources, spam operations spam services CSS Direct snowshoe spam sources detected via automation CBL (3rd party exploits such as proxies, trojans, etc.) PBL End-user Non-MTA IP addresses set by ISP outbound mail

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-20 Thread Jose Borges Ferreira
On Aug 20, 2013 8:03 AM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:58:44AM CEST, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com said: . http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ zen blocks these categories: SBL Direct UBE sources, spam operations spam services CSS Direct snowshoe spam

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/20/2013 3:06 AM, Grant wrote: Has anyone had a confirmed false positive with zen.spamhaus.org ? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=spamhaus+false+positive -- Stan

[ot] Zen and the art of spam abatement (was: Re: greylisting generates error email?)

2013-08-20 Thread /dev/rob0
Whilst this subject is of some interest to many or most Postfix users, it has departed from being fully on topic here. It would fit better on a list like SDLU: http://spammers.dontlike.us [Disclaimer: I am a list moderator at SDLU.) On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:39:25AM -0700, Grant wrote:

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-19 Thread LuKreme
On 16 Aug 2013, at 07:13 , Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Use a dns white list with a negative score in the postscreen_dnsbl_sites, and set a negative value for postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold. Simple example: # main.cf postscreen_dnsbl_sites = zen.spamhaus.org list.dnswl.org*-1

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-17 Thread Grant
Yes, that should whitelist known good sites from deep inspection, certainly all the big mailers such as google, yahoo, comcast, etc. However, I wonder why you don't have any dns blacklists such as zen.spamhaus.org defined there. The ability of postscreen to reject known bad sites without

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-17 Thread /dev/rob0
[attribution of quotes reconstructed] On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:54:44AM -0700, Grant wrote: Noel: However, I wonder why you don't have any dns blacklists such as zen.spamhaus.org defined there. The ability of postscreen to reject known bad sites without using precious smtpd processes is

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-17 Thread Grant
[attribution of quotes reconstructed] On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:54:44AM -0700, Grant wrote: Noel: However, I wonder why you don't have any dns blacklists such as zen.spamhaus.org defined there. The ability of postscreen to reject known bad sites without using precious smtpd processes

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-17 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 17.08.2013 19:39, schrieb Grant: Do you use that config on a commercial mail server? I don't mean to say that you shouldn't, I'm just wondering if you do. In a commercial environment, the penalty for a false positive is a customer unable to reach the company behind the server which just

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-17 Thread Grant
Do you use that config on a commercial mail server? I don't mean to say that you shouldn't, I'm just wondering if you do. In a commercial environment, the penalty for a false positive is a customer unable to reach the company behind the server which just isn't tolerable there is *no way*

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
Postfix 2.11 (currently in development snapshots) includes a wonderful feature to bypass postscreen tests for clients listed in dns whitelists, such as list.dnswl.org, greatly reducing unnecessary tests. I'm actually using postfix-2.11_pre20130710. Can you point me in the right direction

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
So I'm sure I understand, well-known mail servers should be whitelisted? No known mailer should ever hit your greylist. Think about it, what is the greylist food? It's not to stop Google or comcast sending you mail. You know those are legitimate mailers and they will retry, so what are you

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-16 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/16/2013 1:29 AM, Grant wrote: Use a dns white list with a negative score in the postscreen_dnsbl_sites, and set a negative value for postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold. Simple example: # main.cf postscreen_dnsbl_sites = zen.spamhaus.org list.dnswl.org*-1

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
Use a dns white list with a negative score in the postscreen_dnsbl_sites, and set a negative value for postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold. Simple example: # main.cf postscreen_dnsbl_sites = zen.spamhaus.org list.dnswl.org*-1 postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold = -1 I've added the

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-08-16 9:13 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that should whitelist known good sites from deep inspection, certainly all the big mailers such as google, yahoo, comcast, etc. However, I wonder why you don't have any dns blacklists such as zen.spamhaus.org defined there. The

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-15 Thread Grant
A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email error messages being sent to senders

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-15 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/15/2013 2:30 AM, Grant wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-15 Thread LuKreme
On 15 Aug 2013, at 01:30 , Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting

greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Grant
A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email error messages being sent to senders in

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread James Griffin
!-- On Wed 14.Aug'13 at 11:23:11 BST, Grant (emailgr...@gmail.com), wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/14/2013 5:23 AM, Grant wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 03:23:11AM -0700, Grant wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Grant
A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email error messages being sent to senders

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Grant
A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email error messages being sent to senders

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2013-08-14 11:24 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: You were right, I'm using postscreen and deep protocol checks. Turn them off (did you read the warnings associated with enabling them?)... -- Best regards, */Charles /*

Re: greylisting generates error email?

2013-08-14 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/14/2013 10:21 AM, Grant wrote: A few people have told me they received an email error message after emailing me. I'm trying to get a copy of one of the error emails, but I can't imagine what would cause that besides possibly my greylisting. Has greylisting been known to lead to email