Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-08 Thread LuKreme
On 7-Oct-2009, at 14:48, Wietse Venema wrote: This is no longer about Postfix. Take it off-list, please. Sorry, replied before reading this. -- "What's a Velvet Underground?" "You wouldn't like it." "Oh, Be-bop."

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-08 Thread LuKreme
On 7-Oct-2009, at 13:40, Dave Täht wrote: I imagine you all were big fans of NETBUI and IPX/SPX too. Nah, I WANT IPv6 to work, but the fact of the matter is, it's not. The ISPs have no interest in supporting it, and until it is simple for users to get static IPv6 addresses and rDNS on tho

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Stan Hoeppner: > Dave T?ht put forth on 10/7/2009 2:40 PM: > > > I imagine you all were big fans of NETBUI and IPX/SPX too. > > That's a bit like comparing a German Shepherd and a Poodle to a Pig and > a Giraffe. IPv4/IPv6 share the same architecture (same species) and > base protocol, but use

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread Dave Täht
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > Stan Hoeppner: >> Dave T?ht put forth on 10/7/2009 2:40 PM: >> >> > I imagine you all were big fans of NETBUI and IPX/SPX too. >> >> That's a bit like comparing a German Shepherd and a Poodle to a Pig and >> a Giraffe. IPv4/IPv6 share the same arc

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread Dave Täht
Stan Hoeppner writes: > Dave Täht put forth on 10/7/2009 2:40 PM: > >> I imagine you all were big fans of NETBUI and IPX/SPX too. > > That's a bit like comparing a German Shepherd and a Poodle to a Pig and > a Giraffe. IPv4/IPv6 share the same architecture (same species) and > base protocol, bu

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dave Täht put forth on 10/7/2009 2:40 PM: > I imagine you all were big fans of NETBUI and IPX/SPX too. That's a bit like comparing a German Shepherd and a Poodle to a Pig and a Giraffe. IPv4/IPv6 share the same architecture (same species) and base protocol, but use different addressing. IPv6 a

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread Paul Cockings
LuKreme wrote: On 6-Oct-2009, at 09:37, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Your time in this regard would be much better spent building a new supercharged 440 Hemi to drop into a '70 Barracuda that you've redone from the frame rails up. ;) That's a much more worthy use of your time. Yeah, I have to agree, a

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-07 Thread LuKreme
On 6-Oct-2009, at 09:37, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Your time in this regard would be much better spent building a new supercharged 440 Hemi to drop into a '70 Barracuda that you've redone from the frame rails up. ;) That's a much more worthy use of your time. Yeah, I have to agree, and I didn't u

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Täht
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > Dave T?ht: >> d...@teklibre.org (Dave T?ht) writes: >> >> One unanswered question from this series of emails: >> >> >> Dave Taht: >> > >> > Would you take a patch that would let a crazed administrator disable >> > *sending* mail on different protoco

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Dave T?ht: > d...@teklibre.org (Dave T?ht) writes: > > One unanswered question from this series of emails: > > >> Dave Taht: > > > > Would you take a patch that would let a crazed administrator disable > > *sending* mail on different protocols? > > > > The simplest version would implement somethi

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Täht
Stan Hoeppner writes: > Dave Täht put forth on 10/6/2009 10:02 AM: >> d...@teklibre.org (Dave Täht) writes: >> >> One unanswered question from this series of emails: >> Dave Taht: >>> Would you take a patch that would let a crazed administrator disable >>> *sending* mail on different proto

ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dave Täht put forth on 10/6/2009 10:02 AM: > d...@teklibre.org (Dave Täht) writes: > > One unanswered question from this series of emails: > >>> Dave Taht: >> Would you take a patch that would let a crazed administrator disable >> *sending* mail on different protocols? >> >> The simplest version

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Täht
d...@teklibre.org (Dave Täht) writes: One unanswered question from this series of emails: >> Dave Taht: > > Would you take a patch that would let a crazed administrator disable > *sending* mail on different protocols? > > The simplest version would implement something like: > > smtp_try_sendproto

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Täht
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > Dave T?ht: >> wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: >> >> > Dave Taht: >> >> So what I think I want to do is setup fallback relaying as follows: >> >> >> >> MX 5 mylaptop.example.org # if my laptop's up send mail there >> >> MX 10 mytinyarmb

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-04 Thread Dave Täht
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > Dave T?ht: >> wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: >> >> > Dave Taht: >> >> So what I think I want to do is setup fallback relaying as follows: >> >> >> >> MX 5 mylaptop.example.org # if my laptop's up send mail there >> >> MX 10 mytinyarmb

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-04 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > > Problem 2) My smarthost is only smart enough to try sending to one other > > relay (I think). > > If the machine sends mail to a less preferred MX host than itself, > then it is badly borked. To pull that off with Postfix you would > have to turn off DNS or override the routing

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-04 Thread Wietse Venema
Dave T?ht: > wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > > > Dave Taht: > >> So what I think I want to do is setup fallback relaying as follows: > >> > >> MX 5 mylaptop.example.org # if my laptop's up send mail there > >> MX 10 mytinyarmbox.example.org # if not, try my arm box > >> MX 20 mysm

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-03 Thread Dave Täht
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) writes: > Dave Taht: >> So what I think I want to do is setup fallback relaying as follows: >> >> MX 5 mylaptop.example.org # if my laptop's up send mail there >> MX 10 mytinyarmbox.example.org # if not, try my arm box >> MX 20 mysmarthost.example.org # other

Re: ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-03 Thread Wietse Venema
Dave T?ht: > So what I think I want to do is setup fallback relaying as follows: > > MX 5 mylaptop.example.org # if my laptop's up send mail there > MX 10 mytinyarmbox.example.org # if not, try my arm box > MX 20 mysmarthost.example.org # otherwise, default to my well connected host ... > Problem

ipv6 and smart(er) relaying

2009-10-03 Thread Dave Täht
A couple weeks back I started running most of the mail servers I am responsible for over ipv6. (I posted a few notes to this list on that) I'm trying to wrap my head around a new problem - trying to have two postfix relays and a smart host co-exist where one of the relays is a tiny power sipping