Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-22 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:32 PM -0500 Victor Duchovni victor.ducho...@morganstanley.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:22:52PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: After filing a bug with RedHat about their GPL violation, they got on the phone with Oracle, and Oracle updated the MySQL FOSS exception list to include IBM Public License 1.0. So this is no longer a problem for anyone. Thanks. That is one less thing to worry about.

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread Randy Ramsdell
mouss wrote: Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-03-02 5:10 PM, mouss wrote: Le 01/03/2011 10:09, Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : MariaDB is a database server that offers drop-in replacement functionality for MySQL. MariaDB is built by some of the original authors of MySQL, with assistance from the broader community of Free and open

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread mouss
Le 03/03/2011 15:39, Randy Ramsdell a écrit : mouss wrote: Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:06 AM +0100 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: * Quanah Gibson-Mount qua...@zimbra.com: Sorry, I apologize. Particularly as someone who sees my own name often misspelled. ;) What is the origin of Quanah?

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread mouss
Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn out to be

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread mouss
Le 01/03/2011 10:09, Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : * Victor Duchovni victor.ducho...@morganstanley.com: This is a legal question. The postfix-mysql loadable object links Postfix table driver code available under the IPL against the MySQL shared library. Whether this is allowed under the MySQL

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* mouss mo...@ml.netoyen.net: seems promissing, but a fork like that requires a year or so to see what gets out of it. so either the guys are very good and they'll get out with a great success, or the project will die. Yes. Promising, to say the least. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Quanah Gibson-Mount qua...@zimbra.com: Sorry, I apologize. Particularly as someone who sees my own name often misspelled. ;) What is the origin of Quanah? position. I don't care if one flavor of you must release source code is better than another flavor. If I had the choice it then

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com: With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This is the same procedure for acquiring pgsql, pcre, cdb, ldap, etc capability) Yes, but this functionality (splitting out

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Victor Duchovni victor.ducho...@morganstanley.com: This is a legal question. The postfix-mysql loadable object links Postfix table driver code available under the IPL against the MySQL shared library. Whether this is allowed under the MySQL license is not completely clear. It is not a

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.03.2011 10:06, schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: Agreed. I do know that some RedHat releases had no maptype mysql (because of this?) seems so for fedora i had to take the srpm and rebuild it with mysql-support which can be enabled in the SPEC-file but is not enabled in binary builds i think

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn out to be incompatible license-wise, this prevents one

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de: Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn out to

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Friday, February 25, 2011 11:02 PM -0800 Quanah Gibson-Mount qua...@zimbra.com wrote: The MySQL FOSS exception, however, does not broadly include all OSI licenses. Victor, Thanks for the information, very useful. I would be particularly curious to know if Postfix is now licensed under

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: qua...@zimbra.com wrote: The MySQL FOSS exception, however, does not broadly include all OSI licenses. Victor, Thanks for the information, very useful. I would be particularly curious to know if Postfix is now licensed under the CPL rather than the IPL.

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 3:37 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org wrote: Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the IPL? The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit (and equally

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the IPL? The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit (and equally objectionable for OpenBSD, according to people I talked to) I need to

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread mouss
Le 28/02/2011 23:03, Quanah Gibson-Mount a écrit : --On Monday, February 28, 2011 3:37 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org wrote: Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the IPL? The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. With IPL

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:53 PM +0100 mouss mo...@ml.netoyen.net wrote: Certainly allowing postfix to be linked against the MySQL libraries without engendering a license violation is a significant positive. Postfix is highly used among various linux distributions (Debian, Ubuntu,

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 5:43 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org wrote: Quanah Gibson-Mount: Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the IPL? The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit

RE: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Alfonso Alejandro Reyes Jimenez
-Mensaje original- De: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] En nombre de Quanah Gibson-Mount Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2011 04:57 p.m. Para: mouss+nob...@netoyen.net; postfix-users@postfix.org Asunto: Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Mihira Fernando
On 03/01/2011 04:23 AM, mouss wrote: postfix is the default MTA in NetBSD. so it seems some of the BSD folks have no problems with the current licence;-p Speaking of default MTAs, Postfix is the default MTA on Ubuntu Server as well. Mihira.

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Quanah Gibson-Mount put forth on 2/28/2011 4:03 PM: Postfix is highly used among various linux distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, RedHat all come to mind), but with the exception of Redhat, none of them link postfix against the MySQL libraries by default. I'm no dev so please excuse the

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:22:52PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This is the same procedure for acquiring pgsql, pcre, cdb, ldap, etc capability) So by installing the

mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
Just curious, the GPL and the IPL are not license compatible. Anyone know how RHEL and other sites deal with this when trying to provide a postfix with mysql tables as an option? I see that postfix on RHEL6 clearly links against mysql: cd /usr/sbin [build@zre-rhel6-64 sbin]$ ldd postfix

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:39:25PM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: Just curious, the GPL and the IPL are not license compatible. Anyone know how RHEL and other sites deal with this when trying to provide a postfix with mysql tables as an option? [IANAL] The MySQL client libraries may

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:41 AM -0500 Victor Duchovni victor.ducho...@morganstanley.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:39:25PM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: Just curious, the GPL and the IPL are not license compatible. Anyone know how RHEL and other sites deal with this