Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/21/2011 5:30 PM, Peter wrote: On 22/12/11 04:56, Stan Hoeppner wrote: or discarded. There is nothing more frustrating than trying to figure out why your emails are not going through to your customers than when they are accepted for delivery and *not* delivered. I have very little

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-22 Thread Peter
On 23/12/11 01:53, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 12/21/2011 5:30 PM, Peter wrote: There is nothing more frustrating than trying to figure out why your emails are not going through to your customers than when they are accepted for delivery and *not* delivered. I have very little patience for anyone

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-22 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:10:10 +1300, Peter wrote: On 23/12/11 01:53, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 12/21/2011 5:30 PM, Peter wrote: There is nothing more frustrating than trying to figure out why your emails are not going through to your customers than when they are accepted for delivery and

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis Carr
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Sahil Tandon wrote: Because this thread has veered off into a general discussion about mail operation/policy, would you consider taking it off-list or to a more appropriate forum, e.g. the mailop list? Agreed. I'm stunned that a tongue in cheek comment of mine has

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 20:19:38 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.12.2011 01:29, schrieb Peter: On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the same as drop

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/20/2011 9:19 PM, Peter wrote: In the case of SPAM the best solution is to deliver the email to the user's SPAM folder You must have an unlimited SAN hardware budget for your 1,000,000 mailbox site, if you practice what you preach above. Potential FPs should be routed to a spam folder,

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:35:14AM -0600, /dev/rob0 wrote: if you reject mails to nore...@yourdomain.com you will fail sender-verify everywhere This is doable. [Most?] sender verify probes QUIT before DATA, so we can wait until DATA to reject. The real solution is not misuse the

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
On 21.12.2011 15:56, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:35:14AM -0600, /dev/rob0 wrote: if you reject mails to nore...@yourdomain.com you will fail sender-verify everywhere This is doable. [Most?] sender verify probes QUIT before DATA, so we can wait until DATA to reject.

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 2011-12-21 04:24, Peter wrote: On 21/12/11 15:19, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.12.2011 01:29, schrieb Peter: On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Peter
On 22/12/11 04:56, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 12/20/2011 9:19 PM, Peter wrote: In the case of SPAM the best solution is to deliver the email to the user's SPAM folder You must have an unlimited SAN hardware budget for your 1,000,000 mailbox site, if you practice what you preach above. No,

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Peter
On 22/12/11 05:07, Reindl Harald wrote: On 21.12.2011 15:56, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: The real solution is not misuse the nore...@example.com *header* address as an envelope sender address. The envelope sender, especially for no-reply automatically generated email, must be a valid mailbox that

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-21 Thread Peter
On 22/12/11 09:58, Jeroen Geilman wrote: In postfix' case, address verification does not mean use the SMTP VRFY command. It means send a specially-crafted, actual email message and record whether the recipient is accepted or not. It is documented in detail here:

postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Roberto Greiner
Hi, I'm trying to create a /dev/null mailbox, but didn't get much success following the recipe at http://www.serverwatch.com/columns/article.php/3844371/Forwarding-a-Postfix-Virtual-Alias-to-devnull.htm What I did was following: - Add a blackhole alias in /etc/aliases (blackhole: /dev/null),

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Roberto Greiner robe...@nead.unesp.br: I'm trying to create a /dev/null mailbox, but didn't get much success following the recipe at http://www.serverwatch.com/columns/article.php/3844371/Forwarding-a-Postfix-Virtual-Alias-to-devnull.htm What I did was following: - Add a blackhole alias

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 12:35:40 Roberto Greiner wrote: I'm trying to create a /dev/null mailbox, but didn't get much success following the recipe at http://www.serverwatch.com/columns/article.php/3844371/Forwarding-a -Postfix-Virtual-Alias-to-devnull.htm What I did was following: -

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Dennis Carr
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, /dev/rob0 wrote: Why do you want to do that? What would be wrong with rejecting that address? /dev/null is just the proper repository to recycle bits. We don't want to run out. =^_^= In all seriousness, I guess it depends on who you ask. For the original poster's

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Peter
On 21/12/11 10:11, Dennis Carr wrote: In all seriousness, I guess it depends on who you ask. For the original poster's case, it's going to a noreply address, and I've seen cases where nore...@foo.bar is simply eaten, more often than not, rather than rejected. Besides, as far as I'm concerned,

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.12.2011 00:47, schrieb Peter: On 21/12/11 10:11, Dennis Carr wrote: In all seriousness, I guess it depends on who you ask. For the original poster's case, it's going to a noreply address, and I've seen cases where nore...@foo.bar is simply eaten, more often than not, rather than

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Peter
On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the same as drop the messages, the only difference is on the storage I am not excusing the sender's actions, I am

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.12.2011 01:29, schrieb Peter: On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the same as drop the messages, the only difference is on the storage I am

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/20/2011 6:29 PM, Peter wrote: On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the same as drop the messages, the only difference is on the storage I am not

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Peter
On 21/12/11 16:01, Stan Hoeppner wrote: The act of delivery to a mailbox does not guarantee the message will be read by a human, nor replied to, ever. Thus there is zero practical difference, from the sender's POV, in this case, between delivering to /dev/null and to a mailbox whose contents

Re: postfix devnull mailbox

2011-12-20 Thread Peter
On 21/12/11 15:19, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.12.2011 01:29, schrieb Peter: On 21/12/11 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote: so why does he not use the reply-button and what is he thinking does nore...@mail.tld mean? if you do not read the noreply-address it is the same as drop the messages, the