[pfx] Re: Reject mail by language

2023-04-20 Thread Demi Marie Obenour via Postfix-users
On 4/18/23 23:38, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:33:36AM +0800, tom--- via Postfix-users wrote:
> 
>> I got a lot of spams (20+ every day) like the following for which i even 
>> don't know what language they were.
>>
> 
>> مميز المنتدى العربي الثالث
> 
> The script is Arabic.  Language is harder for an MTA to deduce.  A
> priori any of
> 
> - Arabic
> - Farsi
> - Urdu
> - ...
> 
> Though in this case actually Arabic.  I'd focus more on the client IP,
> sender domain, ... than the content language.

If this is a private mail server for only a small number of people, any
mail in a script that none of the users can read is almost guaranteed to
be spam, and would not be useful even if it wasn’t.
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[pfx] Re: Postfix as relay server let us send messages with anothyer domain than ours

2023-04-18 Thread Demi Marie Obenour via Postfix-users
On 4/11/23 17:24, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 03:34:09PM -0300, Roberto Carna via Postfix-users 
> wrote:
> 
>> But we have realized that if we send messages using another domains
>> than ourdomain1.com, the messages reach the recipients in Gmail,
>> Hotmail and other public mail platforms.
> 
> Perhaps as well considering how to address this, you might also consider
> whether you're addressing the right problem...
> 
> When an authorised message is slated to leave your network, the
> consequences are least signficant when it purports to originate from
> somebody else's domain.
> 
> - Many receiving systems are liable to reject a message purporting
>   to originate from an unexpected domain (based on DMARC, ...).
> 
> - There's little risk of reputational or financial damage if
>   the message does not impersonate a sender in your domain.
> 
> On the other hand, if the message *is* from your domain, but
> is an unauthorised message misleading your customers or business
> partners, ... *then* you have a problem.
> 
> While Postfix can to some extent enforce envelope to sender mismatches,
> the real concern is usually the "From:" header, ... whose content is not
> the MSAs job to enforce.

A milter must be used for this.  Since this, along with DMARC, is a
core responsibility of a modern MTA, I am curious if making this a
part of Postfix itself (as Exim did) has been considered.
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[pfx] Re: use object storage as message store

2023-03-12 Thread Demi Marie Obenour via Postfix-users
On 3/12/23 01:21, Bill Cole via Postfix-users wrote:
> On 2023-03-12 at 00:03:32 UTC-0500 (Sun, 12 Mar 2023 00:03:32 -0500)
> Phil Stracchino via Postfix-users 
> is rumored to have said:
> 
>> On 3/11/23 19:04, pyh--- via Postfix-users wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use an object storage system (like aws's S3) to 
>>> store
>>> message files? if this can be implemented we may have a more 
>>> persistent
>>> storage for email. AFAIK aws's S3 has three replicas for each file in
>>> their system by default.
>>
>>
>> S3 really isn't intended to be used that way.  I'm not sure how you'd 
>> make that work and it would probably be a bad idea.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> As far as Postfix specifically is concerned (i.e. the queues) S3 would 
> be a performance disaster.

Is this because Postfix is designed assuming that queue access has low
latency, and therefore does not try to hide the latency with asynchronous
operations and batching?
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