[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-17 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users

Tom Reed via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-05-17 09:31:

On 16.05.23 16:38, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:

dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/


You must configure trusted ARC signers.
You can't blindly trust ARC just like you can't blindly trust SPF



May I ask what policyd or milter you use for SPF checks?


sadly none exists imho, only sid-milter does, if it could turn of 
spfv2/pra it would be ok,


https://www.freshports.org/mail/py-spf-engine/ best option, hopefully it 
can run on python 3.11 soon

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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-17 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users

Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-05-17 09:28:

On 16.05.23 16:38, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:

dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/


You must configure trusted ARC signers. You can't blindly trust ARC
just like you can't blindly trust SPF


i recheck my opendmarc.conf
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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users

On 16.05.23 16:38, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:

dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/



You must configure trusted ARC signers.
You can't blindly trust ARC just like you can't blindly trust SPF


On 17.05.23 15:31, Tom Reed via Postfix-users wrote:

May I ask what policyd or milter you use for SPF checks?


I use pyspf-milter, the same source spf-engine provides policyd package.

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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-17 Thread Tom Reed via Postfix-users



> On 16.05.23 16:38, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:
>>dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/
>
> You must configure trusted ARC signers.
> You can't blindly trust ARC just like you can't blindly trust SPF
>

May I ask what policyd or milter you use for SPF checks?


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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users

On 16.05.23 16:38, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:

dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/


You must configure trusted ARC signers. 
You can't blindly trust ARC just like you can't blindly trust SPF


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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-16 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users

Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-05-16 15:20:

* Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users :

DKIM has no policy mechanism associated with it, so there's no basis 
in any standardized mechanism to determine if a DKIM failure should be 
cause for rejection.  I don't think it makes logical sense to treat a 
message with a DKIM signature that failed to verify any more harshly 
than you would unsigned mail.


DMARC does have such a policy component.  Rejecting mail which fails 
DMARC for domains that have a policy of p=reject is common.  DMARC 
does have a high error rate for some types of email, so I would 
recommend a careful evaluation of what you would be rejecting before 
you do so.


I always thought DMARC was the policy component for DKIM.


dmarc does not imho use ARC results yet :/

we all are useing unstable unfinished software, take it over to rspamd, 
make sure rspamd ARC-seal ARC-sign before mailman see maillist postimgs. 
then it works as designed, last thing dont dkim sign if not originating 
mails, how many rejects are there on digest maillist ? :=)


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[pfx] Re: [ext] Re: DKIM and DMARC

2023-05-16 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users
* Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users :

> DKIM has no policy mechanism associated with it, so there's no basis in any 
> standardized mechanism to determine if a DKIM failure should be cause for 
> rejection.  I don't think it makes logical sense to treat a message with a 
> DKIM signature that failed to verify any more harshly than you would unsigned 
> mail.
> 
> DMARC does have such a policy component.  Rejecting mail which fails DMARC 
> for domains that have a policy of p=reject is common.  DMARC does have a high 
> error rate for some types of email, so I would recommend a careful evaluation 
> of what you would be rejecting before you do so.

I always thought DMARC was the policy component for DKIM.
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