[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-28 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users

On 2023-11-28 at 06:21:14 UTC-0500 (Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:21:14 +)
Linkcheck via Postfix-users 
is rumored to have said:

If it's only "largely redundant" I would expect G to possibly ignore 
it but not fail on it.


The expectations of others are known to be poor predictors of GMail 
behavior.



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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-28 Thread Linkcheck via Postfix-users

> ipv6

I have...
inet_protocols = ipv4
... with no AAA record

But thanks anyway, Peter.
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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-28 Thread Linkcheck via Postfix-users
If it's only "largely redundant" I would expect G to possibly ignore it 
but not fail on it.


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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Peter via Postfix-users

This doesn't help much, except to show that things look good for protonmail.

Protonmail doesn't appear to have IPv6 support while google does.  It is 
entirely possible that you're trying to send to google via IPv6 and you 
don't have an  record for mail.bristolweb.net.  This would result in 
SPF failing when an IPv6 connection is established.


This, of course, is just a WAG.  If you want someone to review the 
issues with google then you'll need to show headers and/or logs from the 
connection to google.  Protonmail headers doesn't really help for this.



Peter


On 28/11/23 05:50, Linkcheck via Postfix-users wrote:
I know that comment was not aimed at me but: I meant to include the 
protonmail header at the outset but forgot. Sorry. Below is all the 
header except protonmail's anti-spam section; I hope it helps.


==
Return-Path: 
X-Original-To: linkch...@protonmail.com
Delivered-To: linkch...@protonmail.com
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (Good 2048 bit
     rsa-sha256 signature) header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.a=rsa-sha256
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dmarc=pass (p=reject
     dis=none) header.from=linkcheck.co.uk
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; spf=pass
     smtp.mailfrom=linkcheck.co.uk
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; arc=none
     smtp.remote-ip=185.35.151.121
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
  header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.i=@linkcheck.co.uk header.b="aME9BZCV"
Received: from mail.bristolweb.net (mail.bristolweb.net 
[185.35.151.121]) (using TLSv1.2
  with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client 
certificate
  requested) by mailin029.protonmail.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 
4Sf5mk3JF0z9vNQc for

  ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:22 + (UTC)
Received: from bristolweb.net (unknown [185.35.148.202]) (using TLSv1.2 
with cipher
  ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate 
requested) by

  mail.bristolweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C22E320306 for
  ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:13 + (GMT)
Dkim-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.bristolweb.net 3C22E320306
Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linkcheck.co.uk; 
s=mail;

  t=1701091213; bh=S5/3sqlIYmgIYOvNb2ssVfXYaWT2GE56yHcXn92FzLc=;
  h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:From;
  b=aME9BZCVwQl1Dqp2qfjODGJpk6O40QkJVPwTd8lYpx2RJIbCgQxga0bDZQPeP/HQv
   t7TcyAC3spO0qI0STwEqgDTdv26WsLMNtKNP2Bwjy/WtKqA0PAKIQ3ccQo8pWE1OvL
   0DgCcd+vvGea8x+xej8E4lxVNOcLRapqgIW9Rosocjo5MlQ0pRiREbL4Bbth9gIXTr
   dL1VCSHA9ihF/aiRI+zIhehL+sA0tqoZOH1j+LNOjSVnMuaO6Mnph/gyR9de8aGZtc
   h/YgRaT2MVLNf6ntsk6qRKzuTJ2/9XKr71uotxbKAHLn6HzzB9nXoPPRvxGMn2obRR
   Fif83WWl/CJ7w==
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:13 +
To: Dave Stiles 
From: EnquiryForm 
Reply-To: EnquiryForm 
Subject: Linkcheck Enquiry: Ref LK_XK27131943E
Message-Id: 
X-Mailer: BW-4
X-Originating-Ip: 46.33.129.43
X-Form-Host: www.linkcheck.co.uk
X-Complaints-To: abuse (at) bristolweb.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
==

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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 04:50:55PM +, Linkcheck via Postfix-users wrote:

> Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linkcheck.co.uk; 
> s=mail;
>  t=1701091213; bh=...;
>  h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:From;
>  b=...

Have you tried leaving out the largely redundant "s=" from your DKIM key
record?  Compare:

mail._domainkey.linkcheck.co.uk. TXT"v=DKIM1; h=sha256; k=rsa; s=email; 
p=MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAvz7F7+W2AovZpw0lRMW/6HjaFsD8iyUsH0x/whIFNGobLP0cRiVaUmKQr62C69HMl+DpilTgtrwa3S/8i63Ym7yNeMSxsV+vbCnH9eq2l2bs6Z1MzZOLb50OmTgr6El6El1Wt/VEJc7m6rcatFpGxZWtLljaVlGwtFlpZwMYm"
 
"RI20FieK6oYl+adOyZHWdGTc7DKtHjwz0/LCwuG4bfJhXxqd56dbY33cPl/xoc3I/Sts9b8pqWtb0R9h96S4wsCYW5Egai2a2Y0Xxa/ND5Ftv6WmXPWqiWAfkRBwVxAA20WCrVTH9+3sZhtpAXmZjC3S7axsBqSl3jmtLf4zu19uQIDAQAB"

20230601._domainkey.google.com. TXT "v=DKIM1; k=rsa; 
p=MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA4zd3nfUoLHWFbfoPZzAb8bvjsFIIFsNypweLuPe4M+vAP1YxObFxRnpvLYz7Z+bORKLber5aGmgFF9iaufsH1z0+aw8Qex7uDaafzWoJOM/6lAS5iI0JggZiUkqNpRQLL7H6E7HcvOMC61nJcO4r0PwLDZKwEaCs8gUHiqRn/SS3wqEZX29v/VOUVcI4BjaOz"
 
"OCLaz7V8Bkwmj4Rqq4kaLQQrbfpjas1naScHTAmzULj0Rdp+L1vVyGitm+dd460PcTIG3Pn+FYrgQQo2fvnTcGiFFuMa8cpxgfH3rJztf1YFehLWwJWgeXTriuIyuxUabGdRQu7vh7GrObTsHmIHwIDAQAB"

Perhaps Google's DKIM implementation does not like "s="?  I expect it
does support "sha256"...

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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Linkcheck via Postfix-users
I know that comment was not aimed at me but: I meant to include the 
protonmail header at the outset but forgot. Sorry. Below is all the 
header except protonmail's anti-spam section; I hope it helps.


==
Return-Path: 
X-Original-To: linkch...@protonmail.com
Delivered-To: linkch...@protonmail.com
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (Good 2048 bit
rsa-sha256 signature) header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.a=rsa-sha256
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dmarc=pass (p=reject
dis=none) header.from=linkcheck.co.uk
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; spf=pass
smtp.mailfrom=linkcheck.co.uk
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; arc=none
smtp.remote-ip=185.35.151.121
Authentication-Results: mail.protonmail.ch; dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
 header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.i=@linkcheck.co.uk header.b="aME9BZCV"
Received: from mail.bristolweb.net (mail.bristolweb.net 
[185.35.151.121]) (using TLSv1.2
 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client 
certificate
 requested) by mailin029.protonmail.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 
4Sf5mk3JF0z9vNQc for

 ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:22 + (UTC)
Received: from bristolweb.net (unknown [185.35.148.202]) (using TLSv1.2 
with cipher
 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate 
requested) by

 mail.bristolweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C22E320306 for
 ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:13 + (GMT)
Dkim-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.bristolweb.net 3C22E320306
Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linkcheck.co.uk; 
s=mail;

 t=1701091213; bh=S5/3sqlIYmgIYOvNb2ssVfXYaWT2GE56yHcXn92FzLc=;
 h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:From;
 b=aME9BZCVwQl1Dqp2qfjODGJpk6O40QkJVPwTd8lYpx2RJIbCgQxga0bDZQPeP/HQv
  t7TcyAC3spO0qI0STwEqgDTdv26WsLMNtKNP2Bwjy/WtKqA0PAKIQ3ccQo8pWE1OvL
  0DgCcd+vvGea8x+xej8E4lxVNOcLRapqgIW9Rosocjo5MlQ0pRiREbL4Bbth9gIXTr
  dL1VCSHA9ihF/aiRI+zIhehL+sA0tqoZOH1j+LNOjSVnMuaO6Mnph/gyR9de8aGZtc
  h/YgRaT2MVLNf6ntsk6qRKzuTJ2/9XKr71uotxbKAHLn6HzzB9nXoPPRvxGMn2obRR
  Fif83WWl/CJ7w==
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:20:13 +
To: Dave Stiles 
From: EnquiryForm 
Reply-To: EnquiryForm 
Subject: Linkcheck Enquiry: Ref LK_XK27131943E
Message-Id: 
X-Mailer: BW-4
X-Originating-Ip: 46.33.129.43
X-Form-Host: www.linkcheck.co.uk
X-Complaints-To: abuse (at) bristolweb.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
==

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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 04:04:12PM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users 
wrote:
> * Linkcheck via Postfix-users :
> 
> > If someone wishes to check this, a typical form (which is sent to me with
> > copy to "you") is at
> > https://www.linkcheck.co.uk/
> >   under menu option Contact & Enquiries.
> 
> I tried your form:
> 
> Authentication-Results: mail-cbf-ext.charite.de;
> dkim=pass header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.s=mail header.b=LiOUpR1t;
> spf=pass (mail-cbf-ext.charite.de: domain 
> ofenquiryf...@linkcheck.co.uk designates 185.35.151.121 as permitted sender) 
> smtp.mailfrom=enquiryf...@linkcheck.co.uk; 
> dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=linkcheck.co.uk
> 
> Looking good if you ask me :)

Why just the "AR" header and not also the "DKIM-Signature" header, and
perhaps also the "Return-Path" and related "Received"?

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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Linkcheck via Postfix-users

Thank you, Ralf; I got the form ok.

> Looking good if you ask me

Thanks. I couldn't fault it, either.

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[pfx] Re: [ext] gmail failing SPF/DKIM

2023-11-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt via Postfix-users
* Linkcheck via Postfix-users :

> If someone wishes to check this, a typical form (which is sent to me with
> copy to "you") is at
> https://www.linkcheck.co.uk/
>   under menu option Contact & Enquiries.

I tried your form:

Authentication-Results: mail-cbf-ext.charite.de;
dkim=pass header.d=linkcheck.co.uk header.s=mail header.b=LiOUpR1t;
spf=pass (mail-cbf-ext.charite.de: domain ofenquiryf...@linkcheck.co.uk 
designates 185.35.151.121 as permitted sender) 
smtp.mailfrom=enquiryf...@linkcheck.co.uk; 
dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=linkcheck.co.uk

Looking good if you ask me :)

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