Re: OT - Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-25 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Nick Edwards : I have no idea how gmail allowed this post, since I labelled you as a spammer (you're an outright troll, but sadly gmail has no function for trolls, only spammers) after your first post to me. But you are the one full of it, anyone is free to read the archives of doveco

Re: OT - Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-24 Thread Nick Edwards
I have no idea how gmail allowed this post, since I labelled you as a spammer (you're an outright troll, but sadly gmail has no function for trolls, only spammers) after your first post to me. But you are the one full of it, anyone is free to read the archives of dovecot to see it affects pop3 DUE

OT - Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-09-22 6:03 PM, Nick Edwards wrote: > By the way, I need to thank you, given your discussion with Timo was one > that had set alarm bells off on this, and the thread with Eddie > confirmed the risks, can't understand Timo's attitude towards it, but as > he said maybe dovecot is not for anyon

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-09-22 6:01 PM, Nick Edwards wrote: > The dovecot developer would not care that dovecots pop3 speed > matches that of couriers pop3, he has stated publicly dovecot is > developed primarily as imap server, read the dovecot lists archives > if you are not subscribed there. Everyone knows that

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-22 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 09/23/2010 12:01 AM, Nick Edwards wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Jeroen Geilman > wrote: On 09/22/2010 02:22 AM, Noel Butler wrote: On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:47 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen ma

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-22 Thread Nick Edwards
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:47 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen > wrote: > > > > > Thanks, we have over the weekend ran two testbeds at full thrashing with in > house written scripts, the timing

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-22 Thread Nick Edwards
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Jeroen Geilman wrote: > On 09/22/2010 02:22 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:47 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen > wrote: > > > > > Thanks, we have over the weekend ran two testbeds at full thr

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-22 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 09/22/2010 02:22 AM, Noel Butler wrote: On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:47 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Thanks, we have over the weekend ran two testbeds at full thrashing with

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:47 +1000, Nick Edwards wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, we have over the weekend ran two testbeds at full thrashing > with in house written scripts, the timings show after 57 hours

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-09-21 2:47 AM, Nick Edwards wrote: > we see no reason to continue to use dovecot in its current state with > its inherit risks when courier has none of them, the move to courier is > now justified. Just to correct the record... Since the 'risk' you reference is inherent to using IMAP + N

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-20 Thread Nick Edwards
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/10/2010 00:32, Nick Edwards wrote: > > Good day all, > > I apologize in advance if the moderators consider this slightly OT. > > > > We have many users moved to a MySQL database, planned for moving away > > from Cyrus on Sunday Oct 3, w

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/10/2010 00:32, Nick Edwards wrote: > Good day all, > I apologize in advance if the moderators consider this slightly OT. > > We have many users moved to a MySQL database, planned for moving away > from Cyrus on Sunday Oct 3, we are almost ready to go but found a > problem with pop3 software w

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-13 Thread Mikael Bak
Nick Edwards wrote: > > So basically, using postifx's virtual, excluding Dovecot, what POP3 > servers are people using? Hi Nick, We have been happy with Courier for POP and IMAP for years. Not a single problem. We are using it with Postfix's virtual. http://www.courier-mta.org/imap/ Most Linux

Re: OT: Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-11 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-09-10 8:35 PM, Nick Edwards wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Charles Marcus > mailto:cmar...@media-brokers.com>> wrote: >>> Please note, we are silent lurkers, we know some of you are on both >>> lists, and aware of the threads I speak of, so are not interested in >>> your POV in

Re: OT: Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Nick Edwards
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-09-10 5:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Indexes can speed up IMAP performance a decent amount, but they don't > > help POP performance at all. > > > As far as I know, Courier's speed issues are mostly IMAP related, so if > you're o

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Nick Edwards
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Nick Edwards: > > Another quick question before I depart for work, I understand also (from > > that other lists thread) that postfix does not support maildir++ , with > that > > curiosity, I googled and found mention of it not being introduc

OT: Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-09-10 5:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Indexes can speed up IMAP performance a decent amount, but they don't > help POP performance at all. Dovecots indexes speed up IMAP performance quite dramatically in most cases, not just a 'decent amount', at least as compared to Courier - well, lets

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Curtis Maurand
I've been using dbmail (http://dbmail.org) for some time now. It works great and its MySQL based. Messages are stored in the MySQL database. I've heard of installations with thousands of users and it has commercial support if you need it. GUI administration is not very good, but there are

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Wietse Venema
Nick Edwards: > Another quick question before I depart for work, I understand also (from > that other lists thread) that postfix does not support maildir++ , with that > curiosity, I googled and found mention of it not being introduced due to > possible race conditions, but the latest mentions were

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Nick Edwards
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Nick Edwards put forth on 9/10/2010 2:32 AM: > > > Before the fans cry foul of why not Dovecot. we have followed the list > > thread of what may be a problem with Dovecot its author has identified > but > > decided is a "tuff luck" case, he i

Re: Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Nick Edwards put forth on 9/10/2010 2:32 AM: > Before the fans cry foul of why not Dovecot. we have followed the list > thread of what may be a problem with Dovecot its author has identified but > decided is a "tuff luck" case, he indicates serious corruption risks with > index and caches using mu

Virtual users pop3d suggestions

2010-09-10 Thread Nick Edwards
Good day all, I apologize in advance if the moderators consider this slightly OT. We have many users moved to a MySQL database, planned for moving away from Cyrus on Sunday Oct 3, we are almost ready to go but found a problem with pop3 software we were going to use. So basically, using postifx's