Re: [Potlatch-dev] Designation tag on most map features
Steve Bennett wrote: Obviously 2) is easy to fix. But what about 1? Is it time we implemented locale-specific map_features? IMHO it's incorrect to display a region-specific tag like this to everyone in this way. designation= is not region-specific nor country-specific. It is a way of recording the formal official status of any object. cheers Richard ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Designation tag on most map features
Steve Bennett wrote: Looking at the voting page (huge string of oppose votes) and the discussion on the Tagging list (3-4 March 2011), it looks like there are some pretty serious issues with it. s/pretty serious issues with it/idiots on the wiki/ From the P2 wiki docs: The UI of the openstreetmap.org instance is rigorously edited by the developers to avoid bloat and cruft, and the subset of tags presented is part of this. Decisions will be made on existing usage, on fulfilling a need, and on quality. And from the Proposed Features wiki page: Please note: The approval, or otherwise, of a proposal means simply that it is documented on this wiki as such. It does not have any implications for those tools which use and generate OSM data, such as the Mapnik and Osmarender renderings or editor presets (for example, Potlatch presets are expressly chosen without reference to vote results). In other words, wikifiddling is not an important criterion in whether a tag is included. My decision as P2 maintainer is that designation= is an appropriate tag in this place, that's why I put it there and that's why it will remain there. cheers Richard ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Designation tag on most map features
On 2/19/12, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I've just noticed that about a year ago, the designation tag was added to the common inputSet, meaning it appears on a wide variety of features: https://github.com/stevage/potlatch2/commit/e1970c90ae07d1d1bb98692a80d2131ae115ae5e There are two issues with this: 1) The designation=* tag is apparently only relevant to UK mappers. (IMHO it's a bit redundant alongside highway=* and access=*, but that's beside the point...) 2) Putting it in this inputSet means it shows up on all kinds of objects other than highway=*. Obviously 2) is easy to fix. But what about 1? Is it time we implemented locale-specific map_features? IMHO it's incorrect to display a region-specific tag like this to everyone in this way. I'm guessing that's the cause of its misused here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/143010599/history In the meantime, what can we do about it? Steve In my country, we haven't decided on how to properly use the designation=* tag but these tags appear because of new users using Potlatch 2. Many of the values used are wrong such as names (e.g., designation=Masantol River). ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Internationalisation
Steve Bennett wrote: e) I don't know if i18n used to work on my Mac, but it's not working now? I get 3 copies of [object object] in the GPS drop down list. From trial and error, the middle one is the right one :) This is happening to me now too (on the Mac, in both Safari and P2). Bit bemused as to why - nothing has changed in the P2 code that should cause it AFAIAA. Will look it into it, though probably not until next week as I'm on deadline with the day job. cheers Richard ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Designation tag on most map features
Steve Bennett wrote: Ok, so I can try and understand you, can you define this wikifiddling you're so opposed to? I find your attitude utterly baffling. Life is mercifully too short to rehash the same old argument that's been had for the past five years of OSM all over again, but suffice it to say that for a very large number of OSM contributors, wiki tag voting is at best irrelevant and at worst actively harmful. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/033524.html - yes, from three years ago - pretty much sums up my thoughts on the issue. Since then the OSM knowledge referred to in that posting has been diluted still further, sadly. cheers Richard ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
[Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #4231: In simple mode, the entry for the designation tag needs better explanation
#4231: In simple mode, the entry for the designation tag needs better explanation -+-- Reporter: seav | Owner: potlatch-dev@… Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor| Milestone: Component: potlatch2| Version: Keywords: designation | -+-- People misunderstand what the designation=* tag is for and so we get obviously wrong values entered such as names (designation=Masantol River). -- Ticket URL: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4231 OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/ OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
[Potlatch-dev] Certificate expiry
In trying to connect to trac.openstreetmap.org, Firefox tells me This Connection is Untrusted, the reason being that The certificate expired on 14/02/2012 23:38. The current time is 19/02/2012 19:53.. Please could someone renew the certificate to calm Firefox down? Roger -- Roger Calvert ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Certificate expiry
On 19/02/12 19:57, Roger Calvert wrote: In trying to connect to trac.openstreetmap.org, Firefox tells me This Connection is Untrusted, the reason being that The certificate expired on 14/02/2012 23:38. The current time is 19/02/2012 19:53.. Please could someone renew the certificate to calm Firefox down? It was renewed on the 14th... My firefox is quite happy with it. What version of firefox are you using? and why on earth did you choose to report the problem to the potlatch-dev list? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
Re: [Potlatch-dev] Internationalisation
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: This is happening to me now too (on the Mac, in both Safari and P2). Bit bemused as to why - nothing has changed in the P2 code that should cause it AFAIAA. Will look it into it, though probably not until next week as I'm on deadline with the day job. As far as I remember, it's been doing this for months for me. Maybe as long as the whole time I've had the mac - about 6 months. I don't have any dev tools on the mac though, so a bit hard to investigate. Incidentally, just to be clear, the only [object Object] I see is in the GPS data dropdown, so it could be a race condition or something in how that gets populated. The Chrome Flash player on Mac seems flakey to me in general. Steve ___ Potlatch-dev mailing list Potlatch-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev
