Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-12 Thread Evie Leder
Ok. I just want to say that I am a long time PM user, and I do care about outgoing multipart emails. ( I have had a licence for PM for years.) It is not the very top of my list, but it is up there. I am someone who appreciates all the other great things in PM, too. It feels like the folks who

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-11 Thread Derry Thompson
Evie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on 10/3/05 11:55 pm It would be helpful when dealing with commercial clients who expect me to be able to send multipart emails and also for me to know more about sending them. For those who don't want it, well, they could turn it off. :) Try MaxBulk Mailer, It's

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-11 Thread Graham B
On or about Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:22:30 +1100 Raul said - Evie Leder wrote: I don't understand what the fuss is. IF PM allowed rich text or multipart outgoing emails, those who didn't want it would not have to use it. It would widen it's base, which would be good for the company. (but, with the

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-11 Thread Raul Vera
Evie Leder wrote: I don't understand what the fuss is. IF PM allowed rich text or multipart outgoing emails, those who didn't want it would not have to use it. It would widen it's base, which would be good for the company. (but, with the text-only zealots, it might be a difficult move) Perhaps

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-11 Thread Evie Leder
I don't understand what the fuss is. IF PM allowed rich text or multipart outgoing emails, those who didn't want it would not have to use it. It would widen it's base, which would be good for the company. (but, with the text-only zealots, it might be a difficult move) Perhaps it could be set up

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Andy Fragen
Jan, I was a clever demonstration but the message you sent has HMTL in it but is not an HTML message. HTML messages have some sort of Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-1829906618-1110170206=:28658 header. Which your's does not. ;-) -- Andy Fragen On Wed, Mar 9, 2005, Jan M.J.

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Michael Lewis
Wayne Brissette sez: If we really want to fix the bandwidth problems, we have to fix the spammers. Agreed. I know a veterinarian who has no qualms doing without anesthetic on such people. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com

Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 7:12 Uhr:] If we really want to fix the bandwidth problems, we have to fix the spammers. That is correct. -- http://www.subhash.at

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Karel Gillissen
Sorry, couldn't resist. savin' bandwith now.. ;-) Karel Op woensdag, 9 maart 2005 schreef Wayne Brissette: First, it is like a religious war, there are no clear winners, only facts from both sides. In either case we've wasted a ton of bandwidth on this topic and the bottom line is, it is now

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Wayne Brissette
Hmm, it doesn't get in the way but needs more than twice the number of characters for exactly the same information (140 vs. 66) so with this message you need double bandwith for the same communication... First off, many of you long time PM users know that I am no fan of HTML mail. However

Re(3): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Jan M.J. Storms
What I imply is that adding HTML-editing capabilities to PowerMail will not take away the ability to work with plain text. So let people who want HTML-editing have it. If you don't have use for it, don't use it. That is my point. Jan

Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[Jan M.J. Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 9.3.2005 um 13:31 Uhr:] It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up hellish bandwith. It is completely unnecessary to send this text HTML formatted because there is not the slightest formatting. (Therefore the HTML text is

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-09 Thread Jan M.J. Storms
Title: Amazing Hi all, Here is my plain text message to you: nice isn't it? Jan - Hi all, Here is my "html-formatted" message to you: nice isn't it? It is not like it gets in the way of writing plain text or takes up hellish bandwith. Jan

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...(Dr. D)

2005-03-08 Thread Rein Ciarfella
Dr. D If something works, is efficient and cheap it does not need to evolve. Such biological metaphors in computing are tempting but possibly misleading. There are lots of people out there with a financial interest in such evolution but we know who they are and can try to resist them by not

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Douglas Carnall
At Tue, 8 Mar 2005 02:02:06 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must norms always be static and prevent natural evolution? If something works, is efficient and cheap it does not need to evolve. Such biological metaphors in computing are tempting but possibly misleading. There are lots of people out

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Tom Miller
On 3/7/05, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Take a look at CTM's product page for the current version of PM: http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail5.html Take a look at CTM's posting to MacUpdate: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/4105 So far as I can tell, the statements on

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Mikael Byström
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I did not realize when I purchased PW that it had such an anti-HTML following/agenda. You actually assumed sending of HTML was fully supported today? Didn't you notice? If you expected that, obviously you got the wrong client. PM 5.1 | OS X 10.3.6 | Powerbook G4/400 |

Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 7.3.2005 um 23:19 Uhr:] folks who think HTML in email is actually, gasp! -inappropriate- ! Just for information: I'm also one of them. I very seldom use HTML-Mail. -- http://www.subhash.at

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread mel
Raúl Vera wrote: You must be joking! CTM bills PM (not PW) quite clearly as a text- centric emailer for power email users, which they define as people who need to handle hundreds if not thousands of messages a day in a mission- critical capacity. Take a look at CTM's product page for the

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Raul Vera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not realize when I purchased PW that it had such an anti-HTML following/agenda. Must ask them! Perhaps I have erred in my purchase... You must be joking! CTM bills PM (not PW) quite clearly as a text- centric emailer for power email users, which they define as

Re(2): Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Marlyse Comte
Well, 'true' PM users at least remain somewhat polite, even in heated discussion. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - HTML is for ads and web browsers, plain text is for content and e-mail. Some rigid, typophobic, fear-based PW fundamentalist out there I see... I

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Marlyse Comte
Yet, for those who understand how use such graphic variation for clearer communication LOL, now I feel invalidated. I am a Graphic Designer since 25 years and I DEFINITELY know and understand how to use such graphic variation for clearer communication - in the right place at the right

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Mikael Byström
Ben Kennedy said: the established norms upon which the Internet (and the protocol in question) has been based for several decades meaning? Must norms always be static and prevent natural evolution? While I'm fine not sending HTML messages, it seems unavoidable in the long run. Also, now we

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Richard Hart
Mel wrote: At the foundation of contemporary computer technology is the digital graphic communication machine. OK. But that is not an argument for HTML email. That's what a web page is for. Snail mail composed on a typewriter is virtually non-existent because such communication is merely

Re: Still Love PowerMail but...

2005-03-08 Thread Tim Lapin
On Monday, March 07, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent forth: Snail mail composed on a typewriter is virtually non-existent because such communication is merely verbal and the graphic encoding potential of the page is a missed opportunity to communicate more effectively. Your argument is too