Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Mikael Bystr
Marlyse, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: if now only CTM would integrate the Recent Mail window into the folder list ;-) and make messages stick until deleted. PM 4.2.1 | OS X 10.3.3 | Powerbook G3/266 | 256 MB RAM | 20 GB HD

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[david.gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 20.4.2004 um 7:51 Uhr:] If you don't have a spam filter on your server, but SS. If you do and you get more than a few spam slipping through I should consider SS. I get maybe 3 a week. Really no problem. I also have alll my eMail addresses masked on my

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Marlyse Comte
if now only CTM would integrate the Recent Mail window into the folder list ;-) And give me the ability to remove individual messages from the Recent Mail list (in addition to the Remove Read and Remove All options). yes, absolutely! and I didn't mean to integrate it into the folder list

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Sherman Wilcox
Marlyse said: if now only CTM would integrate the Recent Mail window into the folder list ;-) And give me the ability to remove individual messages from the Recent Mail list (in addition to the Remove Read and Remove All options). -- Sherman

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Marlyse Comte
I have upgraded to the beta and bought the new version. hope you will remain happy with your choice. I use PM since years and even though some other applications have their pro's, I am way too happy with PM to change... if now only CTM would integrate the Recent Mail window into the folder list

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Max Gossell
At Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:02 +0200 (CET), computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm filtering SPAM on the Mailserver already. Do I need to buy SpamSieve with PM5? I don't need it, have almost no SPAM. No, you don't need to buy SpamSieve. Max G Max Gossell -- PowerMail 5.0b12

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Sherman Wilcox
Nick said: I returned yesterday (after six weeks with Mail.app) to Powermail 4 after buying SpamSieve and am very glad that you guys realise that the top priority of email is spam not featurites. But, yes the interface clean- up is very welcome. I used Mail for several weeks after Panther came

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[Nick Quinn's list address [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 20.4.2004 um 8:09 Uhr:] and am very glad that you guys realise that the top priority of email is spam not featurites I'm filtering SPAM on the Mailserver already. Do I need to buy SpamSieve with PM5? I don't need it, have almost no SPAM.

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Nick Quinn's list address
Marlyse, Thus spoke Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, 19 April 2004 at 7:25 AM +1000: Maybe it's time to go back home and support Apple again. LOL, or continue using your version 4 until version 5 is officially released. I returned yesterday (after six weeks with Mail.app) to

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread Marlyse Comte
Maybe it's time to go back home and support Apple again. LOL, or continue using your version 4 until version 5 is officially released. ---marlyse

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-20 Thread uweyers
To Christian that worked, thanks! Regards Udo Jean de Crombrugghe wrote: The beta includes a key for testing that expires on May 30. Yes, but it doesn't work on my computer : invalide key :( That message appeared when I dragged the key from the disk image to PM. When I copied everything

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Sherman Wilcox
Anthony said: I guess this gets back to my other question: Does SS still run as a separate application? Yes. If you already own SS, all that is needed is $29, right? Seem so. -- Sherman

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Anthony Sanna
Until May 31st 2004 only, upgrades from previous PowerMail versions are just US$ 29, or US$ 45 including SpamSieve(TM) I guess this gets back to my other question: Does SS still run as a separate application? If you already own SS, all that is needed is $29, right? Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna

Re(2): Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Larry Samberg
Just to add two cents ... I depend very heavily on email but I took the risk and upgraded this morning (after backing up my database). So far it has been smooth and seamless. No problems whatsoever /lss -- Larry S. Samberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] VM/Fax: 270-514-0557 Faith is the

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Christian Roth
A-NO-NE Music wrote: By the way, I see nothing in the code that suggests security warning you mentioned. OW presented a security warning as well. However, there's also a comment on http://www.ctmdev.com/sales.shtml that although the certificate might indicate a verification problem, the

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Steve Tarpin
I am very hesitant of trying PM5. If it is any consolation at all, I think those of using PM for many years and many upgrades will have little or no hesitancy to upgrade. The public beta is the last step, and the development team end engineers have always done a great job of preparing and

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Max Gossell
At Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:04:03 -0400 (CET), John Snippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004, it is attributed to John Snippe to have said: BTW: what is the anticipated pricepoint to upgrade? Never mind. I read the readme. It was mentioned in the announcement mail:

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread John Snippe
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004, it is attributed to John Snippe to have said: BTW: what is the anticipated pricepoint to upgrade? Never mind. I read the readme. -- later, JS Silence is the virtue of fools. Sir Francis Bacon

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread John Snippe
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004, it is attributed to John Snippe to have said: Does that answer your question? Sure does. Will pass on the beta ;-) Whoa. Offlist took a wee spike there! Will make a copy of the database, and try the beta. Soorryy! BTW: what is the anticipated pricepoint to

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Derry Thompson
harryo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on 19/4/04 3:19 pm My PM4 key did not work. And with the web pages all screwed up and a security warning on the CTdev site. You use the PM5 key that comes with the download. I am very hesitant of trying PM5. Especially not for a trial period that leaves me

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread A-NO-NE Music
harryo / 04.4.19 / 10:19AM wrote: My PM4 key did not work. Did you see PM5 key came with this bata? And with the web pages all screwed up and a security warning on the CTdev site. Safari, IE, no problem. What browser actually can not read SSI? My reason for PM in the first place was my love

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Kennedy
On 19 4 2004 at 10:12 am -0400, John Snippe wrote: Once you upgrade your DB, it will no longer work in 4.2. Does that answer your question? Sure does. Will pass on the beta ;-) Well, many of us have been using builds of 5.0 for weeks or months now, without any problems whatsoever. And when

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread harryo
My PM4 key did not work. And with the web pages all screwed up and a security warning on the CTdev site. I am very hesitant of trying PM5. Especially not for a trial period that leaves me with a very difficult migration back to PM4. My reason for PM in the first place was my love of EMailer

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread John Snippe
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004, it is attributed to Ben Kennedy to have said: Will conversion of db's affect possible future post-beta use in 4.2? Once you upgrade your DB, it will no longer work in 4.2. Does that answer your question? Sure does. Will pass on the beta ;-) -- later, JS I

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread PowerMail Engineering
John Snippe wrote: Will conversion of db's affect possible future post-beta use in 4.2? What do you mean exactly? If you convert your 4.2 DB to 5.0 format, you won't be able to go back to PM 4.2 (or you will need to use a backuped version of your DB). If you use 5.0 with a test DB, you can

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Matthias Schmidt
John, you won't be able to downgrade your database to v4 anymore. But I think after using v5 for a while, you even don't want to do so ;-) Matthias - schmidt-systementwicklung www.schmidt-system.de www.schmidt-system.com www.schmidt-system.net Tel.

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Wayne Brissette
John Snippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 19 April 2004 stated: Will conversion of db's affect possible future post-beta use in 4.2? What do you mean? Can you go back to 4.2 after 5 upgrades the database? Wayne -- Music is spiritual. The music business is not. - Van Morrison Live DAT Music Page:

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Kennedy
On 19 4 2004 at 9:44 am -0400, John Snippe wrote: Will conversion of db's affect possible future post-beta use in 4.2? Once you upgrade your DB, it will no longer work in 4.2. Does that answer your question? -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Nick Quinn's list address
Jean, Thus spoke Jean de Crombrugghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, 19 April 2004 at 8:00 PM +1000: Yes, but it doesn't work on my computer : invalide key :( move the key to the same folder as Powermail then drop it on the .app hf, Nick Quinn Sunshine Beach Software in OZ

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Thomas Andersson
I tried to download the PM 5 from the CTM page ­ but it¹s nowhere to be found. Only the 4.2 is available. However, I suceeded via Macupdate. Now I wonder how to migrate från 4.2 to 5. There is no info on this anywhere! And PM 5 didn¹t ask me anything about databases upon launch Š Why being so

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Christian Roth
Jean de Crombrugghe wrote: The beta includes a key for testing that expires on May 30. Yes, but it doesn't work on my computer : invalide key :( That message appeared when I dragged the key from the disk image to PM. When I copied everything into a writable folder on my HD and then dragged the

Re: Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread Scott at HobbyLink Japan
Will my current PM 4 key unlock the 200 message limit? If so how (yes, I've tried!) The beta includes a key for testing that expires on May 30. --- Scott T. Hards President HobbyLink Japan (www.hlj.com)

Trying PM 5

2004-04-19 Thread DavidG
I have downloaded PM 5. The Read Me says, Upon first launch, PowerMail 5 will suggest either updating your database or creating a new one. Converting your database is a one-way street however I found that I am presented with a 'demo' version. It will expire and only allow me to have 200