powermail-discuss Digest #2764 - Tuesday, January 8, 2008

  deleted accounts
          by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Tim Lapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: deleted accounts
          by "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: deleted accounts
From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 00:25:22 +0000

Hi all;

I'm about to 'rationalise' my email setup which might mean getting rid
of some email accounts in PM. I seemed to recall that someone on this
list had problems with Powermail after removing accounts from the
Accounts list -- something about displaying mail in the browser if the
account used to retrieve it was no longer in existence? However, my
memory might be playing tricks on me, because no amount of searching
through my PM list archives has thrown up anything.

Am I just misremembering, or does anyone else recall seeing something
about this matter?

Thanks;
Rick
--
G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.4.9  ::  PM 5.5.2  ::  3 pane mode


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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:06:48 -0600

it rings a bell... but this was several PM versions ago and might no
longer be an issue (but I can not recall what exactly THIS problem was).

the only thing I DO remember is that you will need to go through your
filters after because what I had happening after I deleted an account
was some miss-filtering as some filters were referencing the now deleted
account.

---marlyse


------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------


>Hi all;
>
>I'm about to 'rationalise' my email setup which might mean getting rid
>of some email accounts in PM. I seemed to recall that someone on this
>list had problems with Powermail after removing accounts from the
>Accounts list -- something about displaying mail in the browser if the
>account used to retrieve it was no longer in existence? However, my
>memory might be playing tricks on me, because no amount of searching
>through my PM list archives has thrown up anything.
>
>Am I just misremembering, or does anyone else recall seeing something
>about this matter?
>
>Thanks;
>Rick
>--
>G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.4.9  ::  PM 5.5.2  ::  3 pane mode
>
>



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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Tim Lapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 22:16:39 -0500

On   Monday, January 7, 2008,   Marlyse Comte   sent forth:

>it rings a bell... but this was several PM versions ago and might no
>longer be an issue (but I can not recall what exactly THIS problem was).
>
>the only thing I DO remember is that you will need to go through your
>filters after because what I had happening after I deleted an account
>was some miss-filtering as some filters were referencing the now deleted
>account.
>
>---marlyse
>
>
>------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------
>
>
>>Hi all;
>>
>>I'm about to 'rationalise' my email setup which might mean getting rid
>>of some email accounts in PM. I seemed to recall that someone on this
>>list had problems with Powermail after removing accounts from the
>>Accounts list -- something about displaying mail in the browser if the
>>account used to retrieve it was no longer in existence?



The only thing I can recall is something I noted about Apple Mail.  If
you deleted an account in Apple Mail, all the mail associated with that
account would be deleted along with it.

I'm not aware of any problems in PowerMail associated with accessing
mail belonging to deleted accounts.


--
Tim Lapin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel iMac    OS 10.4.11    PowerMail 5.5.3     1 GB RAM     250 GB HD

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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:51:06 +0000

On 7/1/08 (03:16) Tim said:

>The only thing I can recall is something I noted about Apple Mail.  If
>you deleted an account in Apple Mail, all the mail associated with that
>account would be deleted along with it.
>
>I'm not aware of any problems in PowerMail associated with accessing
>mail belonging to deleted accounts.

That bit about Mail wiping everything if you delete an account is a bit
of a horror, I hadn't realised that. Currently I'm wrestling with
whether to stick with PM or jump ship to the more basic Apple mail,
prompted in part by acquiring an iPhone and needing to sort out my email
in quite a major overhaul.

To keep this on-topic, anyway, I've been reducing the number of email
accounts that I have. Instead of having accounts A, B, C, D & E (each
with a separate mailbox on my mail server) I now have Account X with the
addresses for A, B, C, D & E set as aliases -- something I should have
done from the get-go perhaps, but I did find that having  each address
as a separate account in PM gave me added control.

I have found that deleting the account from PM means that any messages
that were retrieved from that account no longer have an account
associated with them (which makes sense). But I don't like having
'holes' in PM's information database -- that sort of thing can only
cause trouble if PM looks for some info that it expects and it isn't
there. So before deleting accounts  A, B, C, D & E I've been amending
them to be associated with account X. The only way I could find to do
this was to set up a filter and run it manually on search-for results. A
bit of a fiddle but worth it because now I don't have any messages with
the 'account' part of their info left blank; they all reflect the
correct new accounts.

I'm just passing this technique on in case it's of interest to anyone else.
Hell, I'm even boring myself now. I'll stop.

Rick

--
G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.4.11  ::  PM 5.5.2  ::  3 pane mode


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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:43:55 -0600

how about avoiding any possible problem and don't delete the accounts...
just have them no longer included in the fetch mail settings, I have
some old ones hanging around like that and I moved them simply to the
bottom of my accounts list and don't worry about nor think about them.

---marlyse


------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------



>I have found that deleting the account from PM means that any messages
>that were retrieved from that account no longer have an account
>associated with them (which makes sense). But I don't like having
>'holes' in PM's information database -- that sort of thing can only
>cause trouble if PM looks for some info that it expects and it isn't
>there.


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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Rick Lecoat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:49:37 +0000

On 8/1/08 (13:43) Marlyse said:

>how about avoiding any possible problem and don't delete the accounts...

Oh good lord no.
I'm an anally-retentive idiot nutcase, Marlyse, so I'm afraid any such
common sense approach is utterly out of the question. But thanks for
your clear thinking and rationality.

Rick

--
G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.4.11  ::  PM 5.5.2  ::  3 pane mode


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Subject: Re: deleted accounts
From: "Barbara Needham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:00:55 -0800

Rick Lecoat on 1/8/08 said

>That bit about Mail wiping everything if you delete an account is a bit
>of a horror, I hadn't realised that. Currently I'm wrestling with
>whether to stick with PM or jump ship to the more basic Apple mail,
>prompted in part by acquiring an iPhone and needing to sort out my email
>in quite a major overhaul.

You have to keep the account but mark it as inactive, then it will keep
your mail. [Apple Mail on Tiger is my experience ... I maintain it for
my husband]

--
Barbara Needham


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