powermail-discuss Digest #2854 - Friday, June 11, 2010

  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "T.L. Miller" <tlmil...@mac.com>
  Re(2): Can't Send Messages
          by "Peter Lovell" <plov...@mac.com>
  Re: Can't Send Messages
          by "T.L. Miller" <tlmil...@mac.com>


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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "T.L. Miller" <tlmil...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:15:07 -0400


On 6/10/10, at 11:31 AM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said:

>Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got
>it about a month ago.
>
>My config for .mac  is ...
>
>authenticate as user <your .mac ID>
>password <your password>
>
>use secure connection   use port 587
>Using the STARTTLS command

Thanks.

To be able to send from PowerMail, I changed the outgoing server from
"smtp.me.com" to "outgoing.verizon.net" and used my Verizon user name
and password.

I changed it to what you recommended and that also works. I have left
Mail alone since it never had a problem on my Mac. It happens to be set
to port 993.

I used First Aid, got some DB error messages: "Class=DB ;what=100;
err=130," but the DB is rebuilt, etc., etc. and PM is no longer trying
to send deleted messages.

Thanks, everyone, for the help!!!



Tom Miller
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"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
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Subject: Re(2): Can't Send Messages
From: "Peter Lovell" <plov...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:53 -0400

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010, T.L. Miller <tlmil...@mac.com> wrote:

>
>On 6/10/10, at 11:31 AM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said:
>
>>Verizon has been rolling out blocking of port 25 in various areas. I got
>>it about a month ago.
>>
>>My config for .mac  is ...
>>
>>authenticate as user <your .mac ID>
>>password <your password>
>>
>>use secure connection   use port 587
>>Using the STARTTLS command
>
>Thanks.
>
>To be able to send from PowerMail, I changed the outgoing server from
>"smtp.me.com" to "outgoing.verizon.net" and used my Verizon user name
>and password.
>
>I changed it to what you recommended and that also works. I have left
>Mail alone since it never had a problem on my Mac. It happens to be set
>to port 993.
>
>I used First Aid, got some DB error messages: "Class=DB ;what=100;
>err=130," but the DB is rebuilt, etc., etc. and PM is no longer trying
>to send deleted messages.
>
>Thanks, everyone, for the help!!!
>
>
>
>Tom Miller


Hi Tom,

while this will work, people who receive your mail will see it as coming
from your Verizon address rather than your .mac (.me) one. I *certainly*
do not want that.

If you want your mail to remain independent of Verizon then you should
use Apple's smtp server "smtp.me.com" and your .me username and password.

Apple's "Mail" does a good job of figuring out te right connection
parameters. It obviously excels with Apple's own servers. Port 993 is
appropriate for IMAP, which is the default for .mac/.me accounts in
Mail. If your account is set up as a POP3/SMTP account then it would use
port 995 for POP3 (under the "Advanced" tab). FInding the port number
for outgoing mail is harder, as it doesn't show up in the Account
anywhere. To find this, select the account in question and click the
popup at the bottom "Outgoing Mail Server". When the list pops up,
select "Edit SMTP Server List ..." which is the last entry. Choose the
server in the top part of the window and click "Advanced" tab half-way
down. You can then change the settings if needed. For me using POP3/SMTP
it's "Use default ports", Authentication: password, and the .mac
username and password.  This was easy to find, wasn't it :)

Cheers.....Peter


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Subject: Re: Can't Send Messages
From: "T.L. Miller" <tlmil...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:06:40 -0400

On 6/10/10, at 4:40 PM, Peter Lovell plov...@mac.com said:

>Hi Tom,
>
>while this will work, people who receive your mail will see it as coming
>from your Verizon address rather than your .mac (.me) one. I *certainly*
>do not want that.
>If you want your mail to remain independent of Verizon then you should
>use Apple's smtp server "smtp.me.com" and your .me username and password.

Peter, I have kept the PM configuration you recommended, but using the
"outgoing.verizon.net" setting didn't interfere with showing the mac/
me.com address.

My only PM problem is that it is now ignoring the "Mail
Scheduling" (every 2 minutes). Never a problem before. I may need to run
First Aid again.

>Apple's "Mail" does a good job of figuring out te right connection
>parameters. It obviously excels with Apple's own servers. Port 993 is
>appropriate for IMAP, which is the default for .mac/.me accounts in
>Mail. If your account is set up as a POP3/SMTP account then it would use
>port 995 for POP3 (under the "Advanced" tab). FInding the port number
>for outgoing mail is harder, as it doesn't show up in the Account
>anywhere. To find this, select the account in question and click the
>popup at the bottom "Outgoing Mail Server". When the list pops up,
>select "Edit SMTP Server List ..." which is the last entry. Choose the
>server in the top part of the window and click "Advanced" tab half-way
>down. You can then change the settings if needed. For me using POP3/SMTP
>it's "Use default ports", Authentication: password, and the .mac
>username and password.  This was easy to find, wasn't it :)

Smtp.me.com is the outgoing server for me in Mail. The "Advanced" tab
shows that it's using the default ports (25, 465, 587). "Account Type"
shows as MobileMe IMAP.


Tom Miller
..................................................
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
...................................................






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