powermail-discuss Digest #2869 - Saturday, August 21, 2010
Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Jim Pistrang" <j...@jpcr.com>
Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Rene Merz" <r.m...@telquel.net>
Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
by "Rene Merz" <r.m...@telquel.net>
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Subject: Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:27:52 -0400
I created a blog about my desire to switch from Entourage to another
program.<http://incisivereview.wordpress.com/> Powermail has been my
most earnest attempt to replace Entourage, but I've run into a few
problems. Hoping you all can help with solutions.
I'm now on day 5 of my switch to Powermail from Entourage. I did not
find my gold mine or oasis yet. Fortunately, I have had Powermail for a
LONG time and I had some filters set up, which I had to modify to match
the new folders layout. But I have run into a few problems and
inconveniences:
In Entourage, I can send messages to Groups and then Expand the Group
and remove people from the outgoing mail individually. I have about 20
people with whom I share jokes, but I don't send them back to the ones
who have already received them or the one who sent it to me. I sent
using BCC. But there is no way to edit and outgoing group in PM without
editing the group's members in Address Book.
Some of my filters are not catching members of groups and I'm not sure
why. I sort incoming mail by group membership. Either that, or it is not
catching incoming mail by labels.
If Address Book is used as the default AB in Powermail, you cannot label
an address.
Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
You cannot save common search features like saving a display of unread
mail. There is a recent mail, but that does not display unread mail.
You cannot create an HTML email.
Although I have Powermail set to delete emails from the server that I
have deleted from PM, it fails to delete them on next connection.
Sometimes it retrieves emails and then removes them from the server
instead of leaving them on the server as instructed. This is important
for me when I travel and need to have copies left on the server to be
downloaded when I get home.
I'm still struggling to like this setup, but I'd say so far, it is just
an okay solution. I miss some of the functionality of Entourage.
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Jefferis Kent Peterson
www.PetersonSales.net
Flash, Web Design and Marketing
111 S. Magnolia Dr.
Butler, PA 16001
724-482-2015
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Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Jim Pistrang" <j...@jpcr.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:29:59 -0400
Hi Jefferis,
>But there is no way to edit an outgoing group in PM without
>editing the group's members in Address Book.
If you create an email to a group and then save it as a draft instead of
sending it, the next time you open the email the group is expanded.
I've always thought of this as a bug, but it sounds like you might think
of it as a featture!
>Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
>but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
I find that double-clicking works reliably (except for when it doesn't)
Jim
--
Jim Pistrang
JP Computer Resources
Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network
413-256-4569
<http://www.jpcr.com>
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Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Rene Merz" <r.m...@telquel.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:22:01 +0200
Jefferis Peterson wrote:
[...]
>Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
>but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
In PM it works always, as long as the URL is written in an absolutely
correct way (sometimes there are spaces in between which may not be
there or if a long URL contains a manually sedately line break).
But the safest way to write an URL into a mail is to copy and paste it
from the browser address-field and to put-it between < and > (while
pasting-it, PM places the < and > itself):
<http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html>
is much safer (for all mail programs!) then
http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html
especially if the URL is a long one and broken by a line break in the mail.
>You cannot save common search features like saving a display of unread
>mail. There is a recent mail, but that does not display unread mail.
(Don't understand this point.)
>You cannot create an HTML email.
Thanks God! HTML mails are for me the most unwanted mail configuration.
(But if you have to create-it, you'll find tools outside PM.)
>Although I have Powermail set to delete emails from the server that I
>have deleted from PM, it fails to delete them on next connection.
>Sometimes it retrieves emails and then removes them from the server
>instead of leaving them on the server as instructed. This is important
>for me when I travel and need to have copies left on the server to be
>downloaded when I get home.
Maybe you have to change also your configuration on your mail server.
Login there and check the settings.
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Subject: Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:56:38 -0400
r.m...@telquel.net
>Jefferis Peterson wrote:
>[...]
>
>>Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
>>but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
>In PM it works always, as long as the URL is written in an absolutely
>correct way (sometimes there are spaces in between which may not be
>there or if a long URL contains a manually sedately line break).
>But the safest way to write an URL into a mail is to copy and paste it
>from the browser address-field and to put-it between < and > (while
>pasting-it, PM places the < and > itself):
><http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html>
>is much safer (for all mail programs!) then
>http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html
>especially if the URL is a long one and broken by a line break in the mail.
Where I find it not working is mostly in viewing HTML emails that have
graphic links or text links.
>
>>You cannot save common search features like saving a display of unread
>>mail. There is a recent mail, but that does not display unread mail.
>(Don't understand this point.)
Entourage has a Saved Search feature at the bottom of the folders column
and in it are default views like "unread mail" (or "Flagged", "received
today," or any personal search terms you save ) which, when you click
them, show a view similar to the In Tray, but with all unread mail, not
just recent mail.
>
>>You cannot create an HTML email.
>Thanks God! HTML mails are for me the most unwanted mail configuration.
>(But if you have to create-it, you'll find tools outside PM.)
Well, sometimes my work requires it, and sometimes I just want to send a
comic dragged and dropped.
>
>>Although I have Powermail set to delete emails from the server that I
>>have deleted from PM, it fails to delete them on next connection.
>>Sometimes it retrieves emails and then removes them from the server
>>instead of leaving them on the server as instructed. This is important
>>for me when I travel and need to have copies left on the server to be
>>downloaded when I get home.
>Maybe you have to change also your configuration on your mail server.
>Login there and check the settings.
Doesn't seem to have anything to do with my server settings. This works
perfectly for me in Entourage.
*********
Jefferis Kent Peterson
www.PetersonSales.net
Flash, Web Design and Marketing
111 S. Magnolia Dr.
Butler, PA 16001
724-482-2015
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Subject: Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:57:47 -0400
j...@jpcr.com
>If you create an email to a group and then save it as a draft instead of
>sending it, the next time you open the email the group is expanded.
>I've always thought of this as a bug, but it sounds like you might think
>of it as a featture!
Good to know. Thank you!
Jeff
*********
Jefferis Kent Peterson
www.PetersonSales.net
Flash, Web Design and Marketing
111 S. Magnolia Dr.
Butler, PA 16001
724-482-2015
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Subject: Re(2): Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Jefferis Peterson" <jeffe...@petersonsales.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:58:53 -0400
j...@jpcr.com
>>Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
>>but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
>
>I find that double-clicking works reliably (except for when it doesn't)
>
>Jim
Yeah, usually double clicking works, but not always and usually it is in
html mail. PM says that this has something to do with an incomplete
webkit release from apple...
Jeff
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Jefferis Kent Peterson
www.PetersonSales.net
Flash, Web Design and Marketing
111 S. Magnolia Dr.
Butler, PA 16001
724-482-2015
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Subject: Re: Switching to Powermail maybe
From: "Rene Merz" <r.m...@telquel.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:46:58 +0200
Jefferis Peterson wrote:
>r.m...@[xxx].net
Please do not publish the mail-address of senders in your answer in a
mailing list. I get enough SPAM.
>>>Clicking URL links in emails does not always work. It is a known issue,
>>>but when and why it works and why it doesn't is a mystery.
>>In PM it works always, as long as the URL is written in an absolutely
>>correct way (sometimes there are spaces in between which may not be
>>there or if a long URL contains a manually sedately line break).
>>But the safest way to write an URL into a mail is to copy and paste it
>>from the browser address-field and to put-it between < and > (while
>>pasting-it, PM places the < and > itself):
>><http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html>
>>is much safer (for all mail programs!) then
>>http://www.ctmdev.com/support/mailing-lists-manage-your-p.html
>>especially if the URL is a long one and broken by a line break in the mail.
>
>Where I find it not working is mostly in viewing HTML emails that have
>graphic links or text links.
HTML Mails, of course, you should view in an specific way:
In the foot strip of the PM window of any HTML mail you see a round
blue sign on which you can click (preferable choice of the two
possibilities: "show the message in the web"[or similar in English]) -
then also the links work!
[...]
>>>Although I have Powermail set to delete emails from the server that I
>>>have deleted from PM, it fails to delete them on next connection.
>>>Sometimes it retrieves emails and then removes them from the server
>>>instead of leaving them on the server as instructed. This is important
>>>for me when I travel and need to have copies left on the server to be
>>>downloaded when I get home.
>>Maybe you have to change also your configuration on your mail server.
>>Login there and check the settings.
>
>Doesn't seem to have anything to do with my server settings. This works
>perfectly for me in Entourage.
Well, did you check-it really?
What works in Entourage may not work the same way in Power Mail.
The two programs are different ...
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