powermail-discuss Digest #2527 - Thursday, December 7, 2006

  little orange and yellow dots
          by "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - 12/06/06
          by "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: little orange and yellow dots
          by "Pat O'Halloran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: little orange and yellow dots
          by "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re(2): little orange and yellow dots
          by "Pat O'Halloran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: little orange and yellow dots
          by "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  opening first aid
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: opening first aid
          by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re(2): opening first aid
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: opening first aid
          by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re(2): opening first aid
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re(3): opening first aid
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: opening first aid
          by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: little orange and yellow dots
From: "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:58:52 -0800

Hi,
And now for something completely picky...
As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large
amount of pasted text)
little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before
or touching the 1st
text column.

<-- here :-)

Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They 
disappear if you resize the window.

How come?
Bruce
--
Bruce Barrett            See my website at: http://www.earthreflections.com


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Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - 12/06/06
From: "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:24:21 -0500

>powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - Wednesday, December 6, 2006
>
>  automatic reply
>          by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06
>          by "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re: Help!
>          by "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  New for PowerMail
>          by "Richard Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re: New for PowerMail
>          by "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re: New for PowerMail
>          by "Justin Beek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re(2): New for PowerMail
>          by "Christopher Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Re: New for PowerMail
>          by "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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>
>Subject: automatic reply
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:02:13 -0800
>
>Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until
>December 6, when I return from Elsewhere.  I'm looking forward to getting
>back to you then...
>
>z
>
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>Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06
>From: "Bill Stecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:17:54 -0500
>
>>powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - Tuesday, December 5, 2006
>
>>
>>Subject: Re: Help!
>>From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:15:56 +0100
>>
>>Am/On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:59:42 -0500 schrieb/wrote Bill Stecher:
>>
>>>Help!  With OS 9.2.2 and PM 4.2.1 can't get attachments to open, nor can
>>>I drag them to the hard drive; they drag as unopenable clippings. This
>>>goes for Word and pityures.
>>>I've reinstalled. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Bill Stecher
>>>
>>>
>>Bill,
>>
>>how does your Attachments folder look like?
>>It should be in your PowerMail Files folder.
>>What happens, when you let show the attachment in the Finder?
>>Could it be that your attachments are only partly downloaded or do you
>>use IMAP?
>>
>>All the best
>>
>>Matthias
>Problem solved. What was happening was that the attachments were being
transferred to an invisible folder on the hard drive. Norton 8 fixed it!
Thanks!

Merry Christmas...Bill Stecher
>



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Subject: Re: little orange and yellow dots
From: "Pat O'Halloran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:31:52 +0000

It appears that on 6/12/06 at 19:58 Bruce Barrett spake thus:

>Hi,
>And now for something completely picky...
>As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large
>amount of pasted text)
>little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before
>or touching the 1st
>text column.
>
><-- here :-)
>
>Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They
>disappear if you resize the window.
>
>How come?
>Bruce

I don't know but they've been there for years and through many versions.
I posted to the list about them some time ago.

Cheers

--
Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk
TB or not TB, that is the congestion - Woody Allen


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Subject: Re: little orange and yellow dots
From: "Tim Lapin (sympatico)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:21:09 -0500

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On 12/6/2006 3:31 PM, Pat O'Halloran wrote:
> It appears that on 6/12/06 at 19:58 Bruce Barrett spake thus:
>
>> Hi,
>> And now for something completely picky...
>> As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large
>> amount of pasted text)
>> little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before
>> or touching the 1st
>> text column.
>>
>> <-- here :-)
>>
>> Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They
>> disappear if you resize the window.
>>
>> How come?
>> Bruce
>
> I don't know but they've been there for years and through many versions.
> I posted to the list about them some time ago.
>
> Cheers
>

What you are seeing is most likely the symbol used to indicate the text
to which you are replying.  I don't get dots, rather I get chevrons ">"
or in other packages, solid lines or bars.

The reason some might disappear is that by resizing the window, you are
changing the wrap point, most likely.

As an example, my copy of T-Bird shows your example text with a solid
bar as the "quote" character, while in this reply, it has been converted
to a series of chevrons.

Other than that, I can't imagine what you are seeing.
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Subject: Re(2): little orange and yellow dots
From: "Pat O'Halloran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:38:50 +0000

It appears that on 6/12/06 at 21:21 Tim Lapin (sympatico) spake thus:

>
>What you are seeing is most likely the symbol used to indicate the text
>to which you are replying.  I don't get dots, rather I get chevrons ">"
>or in other packages, solid lines or bars.
>
>The reason some might disappear is that by resizing the window, you are
>changing the wrap point, most likely.
>
>As an example, my copy of T-Bird shows your example text with a solid
>bar as the "quote" character, while in this reply, it has been converted
>to a series of chevrons.
>
>Other than that, I can't imagine what you are seeing.

no, they are artefacts

--
Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk
History repeats itself; historians repeat each other - Guedalla


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Subject: Re: little orange and yellow dots
From: "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:49:32 -0800

Hi,
Actually they are 1-pixel dots, nearly invisible, they look like
redraw artifacts. I get chevrons ">" as well. The little dots
don't move on resize, they completely disappear.
Oh, and they don't disappear on window minimize/restore.

Mostly I just ingnore them, but somehow today they're bothering me -
very odd indeed.

MacBook Pro; 10.4.7; 2GB

Bruce
--
Bruce Barrett            See my website at: http://www.earthreflections.com

As Tim Lapin (sympatico) wrote...

>I don't get dots, rather I get chevrons ">"
>or in other packages, solid lines or bars.
>
>The reason some might disappear is that by resizing the window, you are
>changing the wrap point, most likely.


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Subject: opening first aid
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:40:07 -0600

It's command+option while opening PM... but it's not working for me now,
I'm on PM 5.5.1 - and for the first time in a long time I have the
bolded In Tray even though no unread message in it.

Anyone else having problems opening the first aid window?

Thanks,
---marlyse


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Subject: Re: opening first aid
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:21:47 -0500

Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 05:40 PM wrote:

>Anyone else having problems opening the first aid window?

If you are too quick to press the hotkeys, OSX takes over as Opt+Launch
to hide others.

--

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
<http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>



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Subject: Re(2): opening first aid
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:26:09 -0600

aha! ... or so I thought.

but I tried it with delay and still no go, PM opens each and every time
without opening the first aid dialog box.

it IS opt+command or did that change?

Thanks,
---marlyse

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>Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 05:40 PM wrote:
>
>>Anyone else having problems opening the first aid window?
>
>If you are too quick to press the hotkeys, OSX takes over as Opt+Launch
>to hide others.


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Subject: Re: opening first aid
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:41:29 -0500

Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 09:26 PM wrote:

>aha! ... or so I thought.
>
>but I tried it with delay and still no go, PM opens each and every time
>without opening the first aid dialog box.
>
>it IS opt+command or did that change?

It's still Opt+Cmd.  Trust me.  You are in a tight timing margin.  It
needs practice :-)

--

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
<http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>



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Subject: Re(2): opening first aid
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:44:07 -0600

heh, I hear you.

the thing which I do not understand is why now suddenly I should not be
able to do it but never had problems in the past - did the timing margin
then change to such an extent? even if it did, I really did try every
1/10 of a second variation (it's all the time I have between clicking
and having PM open) and still no go... but if I still am missing just
the right moment, it is more than odd and definitely shouldn't be that
hard... and never was, well, I'll go practicing until somebody else
confirms that this is a problem with the latest PM version.


---marlyse

------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------

>Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 09:26 PM wrote:
>
>>aha! ... or so I thought.
>>
>>but I tried it with delay and still no go, PM opens each and every time
>>without opening the first aid dialog box.
>>
>>it IS opt+command or did that change?
>
>It's still Opt+Cmd.  Trust me.  You are in a tight timing margin.  It
>needs practice :-)
>
>--
>
>- Hiro


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Subject: Re(3): opening first aid
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:54:45 -0600

Alright, after trying it for over 20 times, and knowing that I am not
totally out of my head (usually), I downloaded version 5.2.3 of PM and
as expected, not the slightest problem in getting to the first aid
window, 3x in a row instantly there. But it does NOT work under 5.5.1 of PM.

Hiro, are you using version 5.5.1 of PM and are you able to open the
first aid window?

Anyone else not able to open the first aid window under 5.5.1 (OS X 10.4.8) ?

---marlyse

------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------

>heh, I hear you.
>
>the thing which I do not understand is why now suddenly I should not be
>able to do it but never had problems in the past - did the timing margin
>then change to such an extent? even if it did, I really did try every
>1/10 of a second variation (it's all the time I have between clicking
>and having PM open) and still no go... but if I still am missing just
>the right moment, it is more than odd and definitely shouldn't be that
>hard... and never was, well, I'll go practicing until somebody else
>confirms that this is a problem with the latest PM version.
>
>
>---marlyse
>
>------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------
>
>>Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 09:26 PM wrote:
>>
>>>aha! ... or so I thought.
>>>
>>>but I tried it with delay and still no go, PM opens each and every time
>>>without opening the first aid dialog box.
>>>
>>>it IS opt+command or did that change?
>>
>>It's still Opt+Cmd.  Trust me.  You are in a tight timing margin.  It
>>needs practice :-)
>>
>>--
>>
>>- Hiro
>
>



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Subject: Re: opening first aid
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 01:03:04 -0500

Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 12:54 AM wrote:

>Hiro, are you using version 5.5.1 of PM and are you able to open the
>first aid window?

Nope.  I am on 5.5.2b3.  Sorry man.

--

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
<http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com>



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