powermail-discuss Digest #2568 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007
Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie
by "Don V. Zahniser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie
by "Don V. Zahniser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem
by "PowerMail Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem
by "Anna Silliman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie
From: "Don V. Zahniser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:34:40 -0500
From someone who is a longtime PowerMail user, but who is waffling about
using Apple Mail since recently moving to Tiger (10.4.8):
On or about 2/19/07, Richard Stoddard wrote:
>1. I do want to keep separate in/out/sent boxes for each account. (I
>have four and my wife has two.) Does PowerMail have that feature?
AFAIK, there is only one In and Out Tray, and a Sent tray is optional.
You can set up a filter with the account as one of the conditions, and
sort into specified mailboxes as an action. This should work fine with
'In' and 'Sent' mail, but I don't think you can simulate this with an
'Out' mailbox, although you can have the account information listed in
the view of the mailbox, and use that for sorting.
I suggest that you set each user of the computer up with his/her own
system account. PowerMail supports multiple users in this way, and you
would each have a separate, private mail database. This would also be
the case with Apple Mail.
>2. I want to set at what point lines wrap, something I cannot get
>AppleMail to do. In part I don't like lines runing all the way across
>my screen, but I also intend to use GPG, and need a fixed wrap point.
I couldn't find a setting to define the wrap point.
>
>3. I like to thread certain mailboxes, but with AppleMail, when I
>open the "parent" e-mail, it opens all messages in the thread, a real
>pain if there are a lot of responses.
In Apple Mail, First hit the 'disclosure' icon at the left side of the
column, which displays all the messages in the thread, then you can open
any message in the thread individually.
PowerMail doesn't support threading. However, PowerMail has extremely
fast, flexible and powerful search capabilities, which could help toward
the same end. I like threading, but find that I really don't _need_ it.
>4. How good is its anti-spam capability?
PowerMail has excellent filtering capabilities of its own, which can be
very effective. With the addition of SpamSieve, and a little training,
it is fantastic. Apple Mail is perhaps a little easier to get going on
spam filtering than PowerMail because of its Junk Filter capability, but
not as effective as when using SpamSieve in either Apple Mail or PowerMail.
A few of other comments:
Apple Mail supports Smart Mailboxes, which are very, very useful. This
is the one feature that may capture and hold me with Apple Mail.
PowerMail has only one 'smart' feature, which is the 'Recent Mail'
window. I have one Smart Mailbox in Apple Mail to show me only unread
mail, and another that shows me anything that I have marked as 'flagged'
- sort of a quick 'todo' function that keeps the messages in their
various filtered mailboxes, but also displays them for me to follow up on.
As far as I can tell, Apple Mail doesn't actually decode (most?)
attachments until you manually open them. PowerMail, OTOH, puts all
attachments into a specific (user definable) folder, and trashes them
when you trash the message. It is a lot easier to set up a virus
checker (I use ClamXav) to check PowerMail attachments. I much prefer
PowerMail's approach.
PowerMail is more graceful about maintaining a database file with large
numbers of messages (at least up to the 2GB limit). I am running
PowerMail and Apple Mail in parallel, having imported messages from
PowerMail to Apple Mail. My largest mailbox has about 5000 messages,
which really isn't that many. If I open that mailbox in PowerMail, the
messages are shown as fast as I can register that anything is
happening. In Apple Mail it takes several seconds to display this
mailbox on my stock 450MHz G4 Cube.
PowerMail is designed for those users who prefer to deal in text-based
email. There is no built-in facility for composing messages with
different fonts, styles, etc. The message reader supports reading HTML
email, either within PowerMail (with or without images) or within the
default Web browser. I typically run with the HTML reader 'disabled',
which shows me the text part of a multipart message (if any); I can
always select to view the HTML as needed.
HTH...
- Don
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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM
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Subject: Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie
From: "Don V. Zahniser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:55:20 -0500
Hi, Elaine -
On or about 2/19/07, ETM wrote:
>Options wanted: Redirect mail smoothly for others
>(mailing lists),
No comment - I don't use this kind of functionality.
>WYSIWYG compose/send,
PowerMail is text-only; no formatting.
>ability to
>fend off HTML (TB! uses tabs and I read the plain
>text mail on top of HTML and rarely even look at
>the HTML tab),
From what you describe, PowerMail has similar flexibility in doing this,
but instead of a tab-based interface, the reading 'engine' is chosen by
an icon at the bottom of the window.
>delete duplicates across an
>account,
I believe there are some Applescripts out there to do this.
>multiple accounts,
Yes.
>no limits on size
>beyond limits of PC on which PowerMail is
>installed,
PowerMail has a database size limit of 2GB. Several users are
requesting that this limit be removed/enlarged.
>built-in backup and restore system.
I'm not aware of such capability in PowerMail.
>Decent search capability across the entire mail
>program. I tend to use the mail program for
>filing important notes and attached graphics.
I would describe PowerMail's search capability as 'superlative'...
>Many thanks for a response. I haven't yet
>installed the trial program, assume that it is
>only good for so many days, I'd like to get a feel
>for whether most or all of these options are there
>before I give the program a go.
The trial is fully featured, with no time limit, but with a limit of 200
messages in the database to allow for testing out its functionality.
When you register, you get a key that unlocks this limitation.
>No trees were killed in the sending of this
>message. However, a large number of electrons were
>terribly inconvenienced.
Love the tagline!
- Don
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Don V. Zahniser
PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz, Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM
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Subject: Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem
From: "PowerMail Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:40:18 +0100
Anna Silliman wrote:
> This seemed to work great...but, when I do a Spotlight search now,
>though, there's a problem--any email message in the results shows its
>path to the cache, not to the original files.
Ah yes, I didn't think of that... Maybe you can try to put another
symlink back to the message database file (create a symlink named
"Message Database" in the same folder as the spotlight cache, and
pointing to your actual Message Database file), but things start to be
complicated...
Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering
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Subject: Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem
From: "Anna Silliman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:08:40 -0600
Recently, PowerMail Engineering wrote:
>Anna Silliman wrote:
>
>> This seemed to work great...but, when I do a Spotlight search now,
>>though, there's a problem--any email message in the results shows its
>>path to the cache, not to the original files.
>
>Ah yes, I didn't think of that... Maybe you can try to put another
>symlink back to the message database file (create a symlink named
>"Message Database" in the same folder as the spotlight cache, and
>pointing to your actual Message Database file), but things start to be
>complicated...
No, I think that's getting too complicated. I think it would be better
if I put the cache back inside the mail folder and deal with my backup
problem some other way. (Can I manually delete the symlink and move the
cache, or do I have to use Terminal to accomplish that?)
So, that leaves me with one important problem--the strange numerical
codes in the subject headers of emails that I find with Spotlight (also
happens in FoxTrot). This renders the searching useless, because I can't
read the subject lines of the emails! Any ideas?
Thanks,
Anna
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