powermail-discuss Digest #2625 - Friday, May 4, 2007

  bcc not consistently working
          by "Ken Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: bcc not consistently working
          by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: bcc not consistently working
          by "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: bcc not consistently working
From: "Ken Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 16:41:15 -0400

I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
and with 1 GB Ram.

For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.

Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages
(previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred
only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK).

The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the
members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs
showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to
reject the post but the other members received the messages with all
names and email addresses revealed.

PLEASE HELP!  As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me.  I
would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how
I might fix the problem.

Thanks!

Ken


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Subject: Re: bcc not consistently working
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:33:39 -0500

was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages?

if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as
to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the
"overflow" is causing a bug?

quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000
names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000
and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group.

hope this makes sense.

just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this
mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book
(and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings...
you know, just in case).

---marlyse


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>I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
>and with 1 GB Ram.
>
>For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
>with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
>send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.
>
>Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages
>(previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred
>only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK).
>
>The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the
>members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs
>showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to
>reject the post but the other members received the messages with all
>names and email addresses revealed.
>
>PLEASE HELP!  As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me.  I
>would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how
>I might fix the problem.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ken
>
>



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Subject: Re: bcc not consistently working
From: "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:00:30 -0500

>was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages?
>
>if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as
>to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the
>"overflow" is causing a bug?
>
>quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000
>names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000
>and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group.
>
>hope this makes sense.
>
>just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this
>mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book
>(and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings...
>you know, just in case).
>
>---marlyse
>
>
>------------ former message(s) quotes: -------------
>
>
>>I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
>>and with 1 GB Ram.
>>
>>For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
>>with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
>>send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.

That's a lot of BCC's. A lot of the new SPAM filters will also trigger
with this many BCC recipients. I would check with the server admin of
your ISP or the person in charge of your network and make sure they
don't enforce any limits on BCC recipients. Also if you're starting to
get to this limit, it might be time to start thinking about some sort of
listserver instead of BCC'ing folks.

Wayne

--
No people is wholly civilized where a distinction is drawn between
stealing an office and stealing a purse.
- Theodore Roosevelt




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