On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:57 AM, William Kucharski
wrote:
> OK, the charter looks good, I just need a couple names to put down as project
> leads.
>
> If I don't hear anything I'll put down John as one.
>
> Also, I apologize for being slow about this, but I really do need to make a
> PowerPC proj
+1
On 10/24/08, William Kucharski wrote:
> So if there is sufficient interest in a MIPS project, I would be happy to
> get
> the ball rolling by formally proposing the creation of such a project under
> the
> Emerging Platforms CG.
>
> I'd just need to know the charter and who wants to be the pro
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>
>
> FYI :
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/powerpc-discuss/2007-July/002128.html
>
> Dennis
I know the status *very* well, but above link is misleading.
For the reality you have to look here:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/p
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Mark Martin wrote:
> I am seeking approval for a project for porting OpenSolaris to the MIPS
> architecture.
> Proposal:
> Provide code changes, tools, documentation, and other necessary artifacts
> for a port of OpenSolaris to the MIPS architecture. Movidis, a m
>
> Attached is a .tar.gz of just the PMDB documentation.
>
> Sorry about the attachment.
>
> The proper place for this is in the source tree itself.
> I put it there, but it could be some time before it
> shows up in the repository outside of Sun. So, I
> thought I had better not spend more
Original-Nachricht
> Datum: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:09:45 -0800
> Von: Guy Shaw
> An: powerpc-discuss at opensolaris.org
> Betreff: [powerpc-discuss] sspsh is alive
>
> A mutant version of Rich Teer's mini-sample shell
> is up and running.
>
> The terminal is not setup correctly.
> Guy Shaw wrote:
>
> > So, next in the Plan B sequence is Bourne Shell with
> > libc-lite. I may still do something with sash,
>
> Does this include gettext and similar?
>
> You may need to comment out the localization support
> but this cannot be too much work.
>
> J?rg
Why don't you ju
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > "Brian D. Horn" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Brian Gupta wrote:
> >>
> >>> Email to his Sun email address is bouncing. Does anyone know what
> >>> might be wrong?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Try:
> >>
> >> mailto:rarebitusa at yahoo.
William Kucharski wrote:
> Eric Wood wrote:
>
>
>> No no, I meant that the Sparc target is dead in the water, same as PPC,
>> but on the x86 target, the Solaris 10 installer gets into X and shows
>> the console in the corner of the screen before it freezes. My point here
>> is that even the x86
Eric Wood wrote:
>
> but sparc target
> is as broken as PPC and it freezes during installation on x86. It does
> get into the GUI, but then freezes with the console window open.
>
Hello Eric, you say the SPARC target brings Solaris10-SPARC into X11
mode???
That should be totally impossible.
William Kucharski wrote:
> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>> Brian D. Horn wrote:
>>> We were also looking at a ram disk image.
>>
>> Good morning!
To avoid ambiguity: This greeting was targeted at myself.
I had missed that point before. Therefore good morning to myself
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Brian D. Horn wrote:
>
>> We were also looking at a ram disk image.
>>
>
> Good morning!
> Sorry: You mean similar to how can can boot the linux kernel with qemu?
>
/opt/SUNWqemu/bin/qemu-system-ppc
...
Linux boot specific:
-k
Brian D. Horn wrote:
> We were also looking at a ram disk image.
Good morning!
Sorry: You mean similar to how can can mount the linux kernel with qemu?
--
Regards,
Martin
Brian D. Horn wrote:
>
>>> And those reasons are...? It might be useful to know the
>>> deficiencies of Qemu for evaluation
>>> purposes.
>>
>> qemu-system-ppc lacks (or lacked) support for booting from a floppy.
>>
> The above is not a barrier. We could easily boot from an IDE disk
> i
Brian D. Horn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The current port uses a virtual firmware; create a bootable binary of
>>> VOF and let qemu-ppc boot from that, and it will bring the OF prompt
>>> (hopefully), and from there solaris kernel can be loaded and booted.
>>> but there probably lots of device issues here
Yonghong Yan wrote:
> I doubt qemu or pearPC will be useful based on current port. but one
> approach that worth to try:
>
> The current port uses a virtual firmware; create a bootable binary of
> VOF and let qemu-ppc boot from that, and it will bring the OF prompt
> (hopefully), and from there sol
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> BTW, www.opensparc.net does ship an emulator that would be good enough.
> But for sun4v, rather than for ppc. It includes src code for OpenBoot,
> including a number of Suns proprietary modifications. Is capable of
> booting into the Solaris 10 sparcv9 kern
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Yonghong Yan wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> how are you doing!
>>
>> I have been considering qemu at the very begining before having an
>> ODW, or even before having an Mac. The difficult part of qemu is that
>> you cannot g
Yonghong Yan wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> how are you doing!
>
> I have been considering qemu at the very begining before having an
> ODW, or even before having an Mac. The difficult part of qemu is that
> you cannot get to OF prompt to use those net boot OF command. The OF
> is built in the qemu binary. a
ng over the
message. What I had said didn't make any sense. I noticed that soon
after we had said good-bye.
I'm going to write both of you a private message as soon as I have
finished a fresh rebuild, plus some testing.
But this won't be today.
Thanks for bringing Polaris alive.
--
Martin Bochnig
Hi Tom, Dennis, John, Cyril, Ken, all,
just an OT question
(Otherwise: no, yes, yes, yes [or so, I join Cyril's point of view]) :
> BTW, have you turned in an opensolaris developers agreement?
>
> Tom
And "opensolaris developers agreement" ??
What's that?
Martin
Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
>>The good news is that they planned to be released during February 2006
>>timeframe.
>>
>>
Tom, that's funny to see you going into the same trap as I did yesterday
(at home) : We have 2007 now, believe me. :)
Proof:
htt
Hi!
Tom Riddle wrote:
>Thanks, I see the pkgbuild info and will give it a try. I assuming the comment
>below has been resolved also. Tom
>
>Another obstacle is that in order to build value-X?.o you need libm and
>friends (headers). These bits are not yet opensourced.
>
No???
http://dlc.sun.com
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck wrote:
> ...l'inverse est ?galement vraie.
That's exactly the reason why I had to quit CSW.
Regards and "Happy Holidays",
Martin Bochnig
marTux_is_alive!
(as you will see in spring, as soon as I have circa a month of holidays))
>
&g
Wojciech Galazka wrote:
>Hello, are there any chances of booting OpenSolaris on 7043-140 aka 43p-140 ?
>This is one of the PREP machines easiliy available these days. If not, how
>hard is it to add support for these boxes using CHRP code base as a starting
>point?
>
>
That's one of the few
Nils Nieuwejaar wrote:
>I have seen quite a few emails over the past several months suggesting that
>people were chomping at the bit, ready to start working on this port. What
>I don't think I've seen is much discussion about what specifically people
>want to work on. Dennis has mentioned VM a c
Cyril Plisko wrote:
> Any one doing it ? Any success ?
Hi Cyril
no time currently.
Too many other things pending.
2nd half of next week?
Regards,
Martin
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Cyril,
>
>it of course actually is: One line after another ;-)
>With gdiff, patch, cat, emacs or gedit and friends.
>But I do agree, that the ON branch is "slightly" bigger/more complex ,
>than a "small" QEMU src base is ...
>
Cyril Plisko wrote:
> Tom, John,
>
> I am trying to generate a clean patch for your code drop against b47
> and there
> are numerous places where 20061002 tarball has bits from the builds
> after b47.
> That or the b47 as it available for OpenSolaris community is not the
> same b47
> you were sync
Tom Riddle wrote:
>Hi, we are working through a merge, svn commit, docs and test such that a we
>have a developer enviroment that can be recreated from scratch. There have
>been a number of unexpected items that just have to be worked through
>technically on this but will benefit everyone in t
ddle, 06/01/06 18:35:
"of what we will be pushing out shortly ... "
It's a bit too late in the year, for me personally.
The classes will begin soon.
And I'm already beginning to prepare for them.
I have no other choice, if I intend to master them.
--
Regards,
Martin Bochnig
Martin Bochnig wrote:
>Dennis Clarke wrote:
>
>
>[...]
>
>
>>that a pile of time and work has been invested by Sun and Genesi.
>>
>>Dennis Clarke
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Sounds good.
>
>However, I only have 4 weeks so called
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
>>However, I only have 4 weeks so called "holidays" left to create a
>>distribution.
>>Maybe you could share the code with me before it is ready to go public?
>>
>>marTux x86 / x64
Dennis Clarke wrote:
>
>There has been a terrible lack of communication. That would be my fault
>and I really need to get a few things out before people linch me. I don't
>think I even spelled "lynch" correct there.
>
>(1) The team at Sun Labs is headed up by Tom Riddle and he has been
>real
them is this: Today is a microcosm of our lives.
Everyone's whole life in miniature!
I do not recommend many movies otherwise, but that one: IMHO really worthwhile.
--
Martin Bochnig
(who has just crashed a Dual Layer DVD-R for some unknown reason, when he tried
to test Ken's new packages integrated into marTux_0.2 CSW Edition for x86/x64,
first experiment with a DualLayer DVD. Will it be bootable ??)
...
> On 8/28/06, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> >
> > > Joshua.. you out there...??? ;o>
> > >
> > > Was hoping Cyril can sync us up with the current:
> > >
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/on-changelog-20060821.html
> > >
> > > so we don't get to far behind. Did legal take care of us yet?
> >
[...]
> distribution and its name. Polaris was coined as a name for the project.
> It is the same thing as various project's names Sun is using internally
> and recently externally. (example: the 64 bit port of Solaris was
> named project Wayoming)
>
> At this point we are so far from working syst
oint. Let's call it that.
>
> Sun Microsystems doesn't share control of it with outsiders?
> OpenSolaris on Power here we come.
Where
(can it be downloaded) ?
Best regards,
Martin Bochnig
> The timing for "Power" could not
> be better. The new logo is out
Original-Message
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dennis Clarke"
To: "Chris Ricker"
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [powerpc-discuss] OpenWindows - How much is
lost forever ?
> >> still can find XView sources and build them on modern system. As for
> >>
> > ppc: The new MSB Polaris port will never run any single of the vintage
> > 2.5.1/2.6_ppc binaries.
> > This also has the efefct, that nobody will ever depend on
> /usr/openwin/lib
> > or /usr/dt/lib.
> >
>
> I was merely looking for the sources to OpenWindows for Polaris.
>
> It may be easie
> Alan & Dennis,
>
> Would it be a consideration to start with a small
> window manager like WindowMaker, Fluxbox,
> Enlightenment or IceWM - and then work our way up to
> Sun JDS (GNOME) for Polaris?
>
> I think CDE and OpenWindows are just needed for the
> compatibility libraries for older co
> > I don't know if something similar would be
> > possible using binaries from Solaris 2.5.1 PPC?
>
> Geez .. that will be tough. First pass out of the gate should have
> "some"
> sort of nod towards backwards compatibility. But only a nod.
>
> >
> > Please post a follow up on what you find
> > I'd opt for KDE as something to use as well.
> >
>
> yes yes ... somewhere down the road.
>
> but not on day one.
>
> --
> Dennis Clarke
> -
>
> Well, one day one we have to look at what is viable to
> the common user base which from the high-end are the
> GNOM
Hello,
> So, it's time to think about sending you guys the code. Right now,
> we're going through and cleaning things up a little, doing the legal
> process and whatnot, but what we've got should be in your hands in the
> near future. What I want to talk about is what form you guys want it in
> We wanted give you all a sneak preview of what we will be pushing out
> shortly. This is an actual OpenSolaris kernel that can be loaded by the ODW's
> OF and will execute into startup.c.
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Hi,
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:21:54 PDT Ken Mays wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Love the effort of a Live-CD/DVD for SPARC platforms. I started to review
> some
> of the issues of porting this MarTux to ODW. A few developments have come
> up during the last few months:
>
> 1. Virtualization support through
d Message ---
From: "Martin Bochnig"
To: news at theregister.co.uk
CC: press.releases at theinquirer.net
Subject: ANNOUNCING first OpenSolaris distribution for sparc (LiveDVD)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:44:33 +0200 (MEST)
Gents,
please take note of my 'marTux' announcements, which
YEZ YEZ YEZ: Just great Noah.
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:56:27 PST Noah Yan wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
>
> It has been so quiet (which is wired) in recent several weeks here.
> Hopefully my update may stir something up.
>
> The inetboot, which allow a diskless system to boot over NFS root is now
> funct
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>On 1/16/06, Tom Riddle wrote:
>
>
>>That's right, If I remember correctly chrp is MAC based and PReP was IBMs so
>>I'm wondering if we need to add a different name for our current target.
>>
>>
>
>Our current target is mostly chrp, with intention to be chrp, not to div
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> See this:
> http://web.archive.org/web/19990220035521/www.rs6000.ibm.com/resource/technology/chrp/chrp_book.html
>
>
>
> "
> Developed by Apple Computer, Inc., International Business Machines
> Corporation, and Motorola, Inc.
Tom Riddle wrote:
>That's right, If I remember correctly chrp is MAC based
>
You don't:
CHRP was meant to be a common successor of PREP.
It wasn't apple only at all, but had been developed by Apple, IBM and
Motorola (and therefore also, what now belongs to Freescale !).
(And therefore also what
Hi Cyril,
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>Folks,
>
>anyone has an experience of adding/modifying new platform support in GCC ?
>
a bit.
>How does the process work ?
Very very poor / instable for old 2.5.1 ppc port.
( tripels "powerpcle-ibm-solaris2*" and "powerpcle-unknown-solaris2*")
And C only, n
http://www.theregister.com/2006/01/10/solaris_on_power/
:)
--
martin
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>On 1/10/06, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>>Just back on air, hello!
>>Looks like I missed a few things.
>>But I got the summary.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Hi, Martin !
>
>
>
>>I would like to see the cross tool
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
>>>GNU ld specialists out there - this question is for you.
>>>what is the GNU ld way of doing -Nmisc/somemod dependency
>>>for relocatable object ? Quick scan of the man page brought
>>>nothing
Sven Luther wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:51:58AM +0200, Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>thanks for summarizing the meeting.
>>
>>I have to say that my line was pretty bad and I was loosing
>>the conversation from time to time. The whole Xen part is
>>a surprise for me for example :)
Sven Luther wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:21:02AM +0200, Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>
>>Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>>After all these discussions we had on cross compiler,
>>who is finally working on it ?
>>The current kit will become a show-stopper in the very near
>>future and we need a good alte
guess ;-)
I just want to offer to do "my minor part" of the whole picture.
Just bringing what you have to SPARC_Solaris is on my TODO list (should
be straightforward).
However, maybe Peter FELECAN is ways better suited to do this (and
more), Peter??
Martin
Martin Bochnig wrot
Just back on air, hello!
Looks like I missed a few things.
But I got the summary.
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>Ladies and gentlemen,
>
>After all these discussions we had on cross compiler,
>who is finally working on it ?
>The current kit will become a show-stopper in the very near
>future and we need
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> GNU ld specialists out there - this question is for you.
>> what is the GNU ld way of doing -Nmisc/somemod dependency
>> for relocatable object ? Quick scan of the man page brought
>> nothing an
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>Hi,
>
>GNU ld specialists out there - this question is for you.
>what is the GNU ld way of doing -Nmisc/somemod dependency
>for relocatable object ? Quick scan of the man page brought
>nothing and I am thinking really slow - it is almost 01:00 AM here.
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>GNU ld specialists out there - this question is for you.
>>what is the GNU ld way of doing -Nmisc/somemod dependency
>>for relocatable object ? Quick scan of the man page brought
>>nothing and I am thinking really slow - it is almost
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> Of course.
> But maybe there is a switch for MSB vs LSB ??
> That was what I had been hoping for.
> I'll have to check.
>
> But even if, chances are low that the new gcc4.x likes the old SUN
> tools ...
>
Sorr
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
>>We also have Solaris ld for LSB 2.5.1 and 2.6beta .
>>Same applies to "as" .
>>
>>But that's not of too much help of course.
>>
>>
>
> wrong byteorder :-(
>
Cyril Plisko wrote:
>On 1/8/06, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
>
>>Cyril Plisko wrote:
>>
>>
>No question - we will have to have Solaris ld. But right now all we have
>is a GNU cross-binutils :( And we need to have it working.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Cyril
>_
>
We also have Solaris ld for LSB
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
>>Not only when Stop+A'ing a running system (bootet Solaris kernel), but
>>the same behaviour also appears after a full, proper shutdown with
>>
>># init 0
>>
>>or
>>
>># hal
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
>> Cyril Plisko wrote:
>>
[...]
nfs-boot
>
> Makes sense and sounds good for the beginning / for approaching a very
> first boot.
>
>
> martin
I also get nevada booted on SunPCi2/2pro/3/3pro that way
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>
>
>>What makes the GRUB2 so attractive is that it makes us independent from
>>ufsboot.
>>It fetches the ramdisk image into the memory and runs from there. Which let us
>>have a working system even without ATA disk driver. the GRUB2 itself, indee
Joerg Schilling wrote:
>Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>It sounds like it is possible. However, I do not understand these things
>>enough
>>to have a clear opinion. On SPARC, when I hit Stop-A I get back to "ok" prompt
>>and have an OBP working. However, not all of the facilities are available
>
the gap between the firmware and a
running kernel aka. the "boot process"?
Don't disclose any SUNW-internal secrets, but do it ASAP ;)
martin
--
Best regards,
Martin Bochnig
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck wrote:
> ...and that is the key: leverage the OF!
Exactly!
>
> On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Tom Riddle wrote:
>
>> Thanks, one thing to keep in mind is that the ODW with OFW is
>> probably closer to a sparc based boot then an x86. We expect to sync
>> up with th
Cyril Plisko wrote:
> On 11/5/05, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>>### PUBLIC e-mail to powerpc-discuss at opensolaris.org ###
>>### and blastware-discuss at lists.blastwave.org ###
>>Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>Does this mean that I'll have to adjust the
### PUBLIC e-mail to powerpc-discuss at opensolaris.org ###
### and blastware-discuss at lists.blastwave.org ###
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/05, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>> ...
>
>
>> You may want to start with the current s
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