Re: teaching programming to the unmotivated

2013-04-22 Thread Guzdial, Mark
Our Media Computation approach was explicitly design to address this issue - we 
use it to teach our required course for Liberal Arts, Architecture, and 
Business students.  Our papers on the approach can be found at 
http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/mediaComp-teach/12

We have written an ICER paper about how we convinced students to buy into this: 
http://home.cc.gatech.edu/allison/uploads/3/guzdial2006.pdf

Cheers,
Mark

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:15 AM, "Gergely Buday" 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi,

I teach programming to students who do not really know why they came
into the course called business informatics, who are not really versed
in mathematics and, possibly because of these, are not motivated to do
hard work grasping the concepts and to hack a lot. I feel that they
are not fond of problem solving, even in the everyday sense: some of
them do not care if they meet a problem,  just give up.

I guess some of you were faced to this problem, so ask: how can I
motivate these students?

What is a must to read on this topic?

- Gergely

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The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt 
charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).



Re: teaching programming to the unmotivated

2013-04-22 Thread ATOMICSLR
Hello,
 
Keith Whittington at Rochester Institute of Technology (Rochester, NY, USA) 
 has done some good work using creative active learning techniques to 
motivate  students, teach programming, and encourage discussion and class 
participation. 
 
Several years ago I had an opportunity to interview some of his students,  
and they were very enthusiastic about his approach to teaching introductory  
programming.
 
-- Susan Rothwell
Adjunct Instructor, Finger Lakes Community College
Ph.D. Candidate, Syracuse University
 
 
In a message dated 4/22/2013 3:15:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi,

I teach programming to students who do not really know  why they came
into the course called business informatics, who are not  really versed
in mathematics and, possibly because of these, are not  motivated to do
hard work grasping the concepts and to hack a lot. I feel  that they
are not fond of problem solving, even in the everyday sense: some  of
them do not care if they meet a problem,  just give up.

I  guess some of you were faced to this problem, so ask: how can I
motivate  these students?

What is a must to read on this topic?

-  Gergely

-- 
The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC  000391), an 
exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in  Scotland (SC 
038302).



Re: teaching programming to the unmotivated

2013-04-22 Thread Patricia Charlton
Hi Gergely,

I don't know if this helps but I use a problem solving approach from "apps for 
good" method to introduce students from HE and secondary education to
programming that have not do any computer science before.

The apps for good approach aims for mobile applications but the approach works 
for any area of problem solving e.g. web apps, physical computing etc.
The critical idea is getting the students to work in small groups, come up with 
their own problems that they work on together. 
They then use Balsamiq (wireframe tool) for their design and then move towards 
any programming language you have in mind. 
A natural and simple progression is MIT apps inventor, which quickly enables 
them to prototype their solutions to run on mobile phones but there is a 
simulator etc.
As a programming language it has its limitations but it depends on the aim of 
the course/module. 

I have used various workshop methods but the central thing is team work and 
letting them come up with a problem they would like to solve.

I'll send the resources in a separate link. 

Another great way to get them motivated is peer-assessment of the projects they 
have designed solutions.  

Best wishes,
Patricia













On 22 Apr 2013, at 08:14, Gergely Buday wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I teach programming to students who do not really know why they came
> into the course called business informatics, who are not really versed
> in mathematics and, possibly because of these, are not motivated to do
> hard work grasping the concepts and to hack a lot. I feel that they
> are not fond of problem solving, even in the everyday sense: some of
> them do not care if they meet a problem,  just give up.
> 
> I guess some of you were faced to this problem, so ask: how can I
> motivate these students?
> 
> What is a must to read on this topic?
> 
> - Gergely
> 
> -- 
> The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt 
> charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).
> 




RE: teaching programming to the unmotivated

2013-04-22 Thread Lynda Thomas [ltt]
anything about self-theories (Dweck).
Laurie Murphy and I wrote a paper about this for ItiCSe a few years ago 
Dangers of a fixed mindset: implications of self-theories research for computer 
science education
and then I was involved in an intervention that was not successful.

I think that people at Glasgow have had some success with this though

It's the fundamental problem isn't it?
Lynda


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From: Gergely Buday [[email protected]]
Sent: 22 April 2013 08:14
To: Ppig-Discuss-List
Subject: teaching programming to the unmotivated

Hi,

I teach programming to students who do not really know why they came
into the course called business informatics, who are not really versed
in mathematics and, possibly because of these, are not motivated to do
hard work grasping the concepts and to hack a lot. I feel that they
are not fond of problem solving, even in the everyday sense: some of
them do not care if they meet a problem,  just give up.

I guess some of you were faced to this problem, so ask: how can I
motivate these students?

What is a must to read on this topic?

- Gergely

--
The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt 
charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).