Re: [ppig-discuss] Upcoming events related to the psychology of programming?

2015-12-01 Thread Raoul Duke
> And what is the psychological relation between "fun", the "eye", and the > beheld? Deeply unanswered/able? :-) And, still, horses for courses. Outright xio-paths might have a different psychological relation than we do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[ppig-discuss] Re: PPIG usability questions

2016-02-26 Thread Raoul Duke
>> 1) Why are there 2 lists? Is this supposed to be a group that >> understands usability / user experience / information architecture at >> all? :-) It bounced so I guess that means @open.ac.uk is deprecated? Too bad it keeps showing up in search results. Yes, I realize there's not a lot to be

Re: [ppig-discuss] issues in teaching introduction to programing to CS literate students (1st year at the university)?

2016-02-14 Thread Raoul Duke
>o students who know a lot more about programming than the lecturers > (not hard since CS does not reward programming skill). Hah. Everybody sucks at programming, be it ivory tower, or in the trenches. :-P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PPIG

[ppig-discuss] Re: [erlang-questions] Rhetorical structure of code: Anyone interested in collaborating?

2016-04-28 Thread Raoul Duke
Right on. Code often becomes so complicated that we really need multiple ways to tackle, visualize, sort, query, etc. it. The fact that we have such a paucity of tools and toolkits/frameworks for the tooling is I feel a long standing indictment of the whole industry. I guess most people don't grok

Re: [ppig-discuss] Rhetorical structure of code: Anyone interested in collaborating?

2016-05-02 Thread Raoul Duke
> No doubt it could be construed as either-or rather than both-and. Having > relevant media to support professional development is necessary. However, it > seems rather too easy to end up with a cultural reduction toward the > technological means rather than the ends (and thus we end up

[ppig-discuss] another vantage point on usability

2016-12-16 Thread Raoul Duke
http://goo.gl/ThkX8J apologies if this is nothing new here. sorry for bad paste formatting below. Subrecursive Programming Languages, Part h Efficiency and Program Structure ROBERT L. CONSTABLE Cornell University, Ithaca, New York AND ALLAN B. BORODIN University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario,

Re: [ppig-discuss] Programming languages have keywords in English

2019-04-16 Thread Raoul Duke
random eg: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-English-based_programming_languages -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PPIG Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [ppig-discuss] Re: programming as an active language skill

2020-03-06 Thread Raoul Duke
good thing every human involved in decision making has the Decision Logics wetware preloaded. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PPIG Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[ppig-discuss] comprehending interactive programs

2020-09-15 Thread Raoul Duke
(these papers might be old news around here) I've done both oo/observer and reactive programming. Personally I do find reactive easier to deal with overall. But going further, I wish that we had somehow more reified representations (visually, graphically, gui style, interactively, able to see it

Re: [External] Re: [ppig-discuss] Trying to make sense of your old code

2022-02-13 Thread Raoul Duke
my unbidden $0.02 i for one do feel there are times and places for things akin to literate style cf. jupyter style notebooks. tho personally i think the least unlikely way to have actually successful & maintainable code would be to have truly good "executable specifications" systems. i've never

Re: [ppig-discuss] BBC: What can we do to get more women into coding?

2022-01-19 Thread Raoul Duke
> ASIC-B i feel like a language designed with good pedagogical ux in mind would should could also be a great day job language, no real inherent reason why not. CTM* tries to show layering of features in a language evolution graph, eg start immutably and later add mutation, later add FFI. what

Re: [ppig-discuss] BBC: What can we do to get more women into coding?

2022-01-23 Thread Raoul Duke
$0.02, * Unless you have a personal tutor, and a good one to boot, i think it will be unfortunately rare to find a lecture, mooc, book, etc. teaching the same programming thing N different ways to cover N learning modalities. * Do we even really know what the modalities are for learning? Does

Re: [ppig-discuss] BBC: What can we do to get more women into coding?

2022-01-23 Thread Raoul Duke
> 3D printing is only interesting and motivating when you have specific > problems to solve that are meaningful to you. Please beware of making the same-but-opposite error as those folks who don't present what you believe are useful specific problems during teaching. -- You received this