Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

At 00:28 2018-01-05, Alan Bourke wrote: These exploits are nasty but if they've been in Intel chips ever since they started implementing out-of-order execution in 1995 then surely if there was a serious real-world threat we would have seen it long ago? No.

RE: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

My thoughts exactly. I usually read what the media says ("A! REPLACE ALL COMPUTERS TODAY!") and know that the reality is more like "Keep Calm And Patch On!" Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc. -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > And, of course, the required xkcd take on things: > > https://xkcd.com/1938/ > And that's pretty much all you need to know! Happy Friday, folks! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On Jan 5, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > Here’s an excellent explanation of the problem, and how the exploits work: > > https://twitter.com/gsuberland/status/948907452786933762 > > It’s a long thread, but then again, it’s a complex issue. And, of course, the required xkcd

RE: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

A very interesting and realistic report on this subject https://researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2018/01/threat-brief-meltdown-sp ectre-vulnerabilities/?utm_source=Adobe+Campaign+-+ACS_medium=email_ campaign=20180105.NL.unit42.PANW_subs.threat.global.xx.xx=DM170 8 Jose Enrique Llopis

Re: [NF] Export to PDF/FDF

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:10 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > > Installing any software such as CutePDF or other to help drive this isn't > > an option at this time. > > > > Don't you hate it when you're backed into a corner, but you can't use > the tool that would solve the problem? >

RE: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

Andy, Memories from the past indeed! We had similar when I moved from Singer to ICL on their 7502 Front End Processor (FEP). I got involved in some coding in the dreaded PLAN programming language (Uuugh!) on their 1904s range of machines before the 2900 Microcode range was launched. Dave

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On 05-Jan-2018 7:27 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: I think it's more of a side effect of the principle of out of order execution, not everything is a conspiracy. That's been going on for a very long time - IBM were doing instruction pre-fetch in the 70's or early 80's --- StripMime Report --

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On Jan 5, 2018, at 2:28 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > These exploits are nasty but if they've been in Intel chips ever since they > started implementing out-of-order execution in 1995 then surely if there was > a serious real-world threat we would have seen it long ago?

RE: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

If you are a HIPAA shop then I'm sure your IT team is paying proper attention to this. Hah! I AM the IT team. (I have a couple of part-time assistants who do help desk and maintenance, but I'm the CIO/SysAdmin/DBA/Systems Analyst/Code Monkey/chief cook and bottle washer. We have an

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

I think it's more of a side effect of the principle of out of order execution, not everything is a conspiracy. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, at 9:28 AM, AndyHC wrote: > On 05-Jan-2018 1:58 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > These exploits are nasty but if

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On 05-Jan-2018 1:58 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: These exploits are nasty but if they've been in Intel chips ever since they started implementing out-of-order execution in 1995 then surely if there was a serious real-world threat we would have seen it long ago? Unless it's been very carefully

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

On 04-Jan-2018 11:47 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Also, kudos to Microsoft for shipping their patches a week early, and spontaneously rebooting idle Windows workstations while people were freaking out over the new exploits. Good job! ...  it's almost as if they're saying "here's one I prepared

Re: [NF] Meltdown and Spectre CPU Flaw Information

These exploits are nasty but if they've been in Intel chips ever since they started implementing out-of-order execution in 1995 then surely if there was a serious real-world threat we would have seen it long ago? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, at