Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-08-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic > functions: no stored procedures, triggers, views, prepared statements, > etc. Simply a way to store and query data quickly and efficiently. > There's a audio

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread KAM
smell software (if Vista is really software) - Original Message - From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:21 PM, MB Software Solutions Gener

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:21 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> I'm trying hard to think of a similarly "fun" name from M$. >> >> "Excel" >> "Powerpoint" >> "Access" >> >> ...they're more "business" sounding than the rest of the world. > > > They'

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:21 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > I'm trying hard to think of a similarly "fun" name from M$. > > "Excel" > "Powerpoint" > "Access" > > ...they're more "business" sounding than the rest of the world. They're boring names. 'Windows' - good

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:38 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> Did you notice than many of the new products out there--especially it >> seems imo in the Open Source community--have "funny" names? > > > You mean like 'Apple' and 'Macintosh'? > >

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:38 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Did you notice than many of the new products out there--especially it > seems imo in the Open Source community--have "funny" names? You mean like 'Apple' and 'Macintosh'? Oh, wait, those aren't new or

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Whil Hentzen wrote: >> It's still in its infancy, but it'll be worth following! > > If for no other reason than the cool name. Did you notice than many of the new products out there--especially it seems imo in the Open Source community--have "funny" names? ___

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Whil Hentzen
> > It's still in its infancy, but it'll be worth following! If for no other reason than the cool name. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: > I was stating that I THINK the future for MySQL is going to change. > This baseline engine branch for keeping things free is just a > foreshadow of things to come. LOL! I must admit that when I read that, I thought of Ballmer saying that Linux wasn't free and that they'

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: > Or a strip out of all "functionality" past storage and retrieval of > data. You may have to pay for all of that in the future??? Not if there's a migration tool. ;-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Mainte

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > > I imagine (without looking) that it would have all of the bugfixes > and efficiency gains added to the engine, as well as a non-GPL client > license. The license part is what I would find attractive moreso. ___ Post Mess

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > I was stating that I THINK the future for MySQL is going to change. > This baseline engine branch for keeping things free is just a > foreshadow of things to come. Either you're trolling here, or your understanding of licensing is la

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>https://launchpad.net/drizzle >> >>This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic >> functions: no stored procedures, triggers,

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> Or a strip out of all "functionality" past storage and retrieval of >> data. You may have to pay for all of that in the future??? > > >I guess you don't understan

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Or a strip out of all "functionality" past storage and retrieval of > data. You may have to pay for all of that in the future??? I guess you don't understand the concept of creating a product to fit in a niche. If you want that add

RE: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread John Harvey
, 2008 5:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:15 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > I don't think I explained myself correctly given your answer. My > thought was that if they want something like MySQL 3.23 for it

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:15 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > I don't think I explained myself correctly given your answer. My > thought was that if they want something like MySQL 3.23 for its > speed if > tons faster, ok, but other than that, what would Drizzle have that > MySQ

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Paul Hill
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >https://launchpad.net/drizzle > >This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic > functions: no stored procedures, triggers, views, prepared statements, > etc. Simply a way to store and query data qui

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:36 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> Rightand for the purposes you mentioned (cloud, etc.) it should be >> perfect. My question is that the stuff introduced in MySQL5 (Stored >> procs, triggers, etc.), did that *really* make it l

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:36 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Rightand for the purposes you mentioned (cloud, etc.) it should be > perfect. My question is that the stuff introduced in MySQL5 (Stored > procs, triggers, etc.), did that *really* make it less attractive > (speed-w

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:25 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> So this sounds like an earlier version (pre-5) of MySQL, right? > > > MySQL was always supposed to be lean and mean. The direction after > version 4 took it more in the realm of PostgreSQ

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:25 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > So this sounds like an earlier version (pre-5) of MySQL, right? MySQL was always supposed to be lean and mean. The direction after version 4 took it more in the realm of PostgreSQL, Oracle, Microsoft SQL Se

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > https://launchpad.net/drizzle > > This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic > functions: no stored procedures, triggers, views, prepared statements, > etc. Simply a way to store and query data quickly and efficiently. So this sounds like an earl

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > Ed, where do you see this fitting in the spectrum of SQLite, > PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc? In between SQLite and Postgres. It is a true server, unlike SQLite, but it doesn't have all the DBA-type features. IOW, small and lightweight; a swee

Re: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic > functions: no stored procedures, triggers, views, prepared statements, > etc. Simply a way to store and query data quickly and efficiently. > Hmm. Interesti

RE: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Gil Hale
Excellent find! Thanks for sharing the info. Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL > > >

[NF] Drizzle, a fork of MySQL

2008-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
https://launchpad.net/drizzle This is a project designed to strip MySQL down to its basic functions: no stored procedures, triggers, views, prepared statements, etc. Simply a way to store and query data quickly and efficiently. While Drizzle itself will be GPL2, the cl