RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-17 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 06:12 AM 1/10/2007 -0600, Stephen the Cook wrote: ... what the on earth is desktop software development? Software that is designed to run on the local pc. WinForm vs Web in .net speak. ... Or smart vs. dumb for in PHB-speak. ;-) -Charlie

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-17 Thread Stephen the Cook
Charlie Coleman wrote: At 06:12 AM 1/10/2007 -0600, Stephen the Cook wrote: ... what the on earth is desktop software development? Software that is designed to run on the local pc. WinForm vs Web in .net speak. ... Or smart vs. dumb for in PHB-speak. ;-) Probably more

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-15 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:28:37 -0500, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However could you please provide a definition for ... FIDDLINESS Fiddly (Adjective) Awkward to do or use, requiring a degree of manual dexterity FURTLE Well, I used it in the South Yorkshire context of messing

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Bourke
When you can develop an application from start to finish without having to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will die. Long way off yet.

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? =  = When you can develop an application from start to finish = without having to ever worry about browser = incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and = ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by = hand

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Crozier
Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: 12 January 2007 16:29 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? = Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? =  = When you can

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Chet Gardiner
Nor have to depend on your phone or cable company connection!!! (the swine!) Alan Bourke wrote: When you can develop an application from start to finish without having to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-11 Thread Man-wai CHANG
Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set top box or thin client. Oracle said that before, didn't it? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-11 Thread Stephen the Cook
Man-wai CHANG wrote: Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set top box or thin client. Oracle said that before, didn't it? Like IBM is today? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-11 Thread MB Software Solutions
Man-wai CHANG wrote: Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we all are using some sort of set top box or thin client. Oracle said that before, didn't it? The term grid computing comes to mind for some

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-11 Thread mrgmhale
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Accordingly to what a KPMG consultant told the company I was working for ten years ago, the PC is dead and right now we

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Man-wai CHANG
His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop software development? --

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Crozier
About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai CHANG Sent: 10 January 2007 11:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? His thesis, that rapid

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen the Cook
Man-wai CHANG wrote: His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps within the browser is just missing the boat. He's confusing the implementation with the architecture, imo. what the on earth is desktop

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Buckland
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 10 January 2007 12:09 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Crozier
Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: 10 January 2007 12:17 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? Dave, Out of interest 80 - 90%% of my Foxpro programs run in batch overnight

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Man-wai CHANG
Did he mean we are moving back to mainframe era, now called servers? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. http://www.linux-sxs.org / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.10) Linux 2.6.19.1 ^ ^ 20:58:01 up 29 days 3:10 0 users load

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread vbiersch
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 10 January 2007 12:09 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development? About 90% of what all VFP development covers! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Cushing
Dave Crozier wrote: You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. BG Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-) Peter ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/10/07, Peter Cushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Crozier wrote: You must miss the joy (not) of designing pretty user interfaces for petty users who don't know their a*ses from their elbows. BG Have you got any pretty users Dave? tell me more ;-) Peter petty #

RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Tristan Leask
development? Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development? petty # pretty...unfortunately... A+ jml -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Cushing
Jean Laeremans wrote: petty # pretty...unfortunately... Oops... should have SET DYSLEXIA OFF before sending Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Helio W.
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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Crozier
Peter, You obviously also need: Set GoForVisionTest ON Before posting! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 10 January 2007 15:02 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/10/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, You obviously also need: Set GoForVisionTest ON Before posting! Dave Crozier Or more likely : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-10 Thread Mark Stanton
petty # pretty...unfortunately... It does too often for my liking... Mark ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

[NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-09 Thread Ted Roche
Expect 2007 to mark the beginning of the end of desktop software development, http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/08/02FEspendappdev_1.html or http://tinyurl.com/yj34qv His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates are restricted to apps

Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-09 Thread Eugene Vital
Ted Roche wrote: Expect 2007 to mark the beginning of the end of desktop software development, http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/08/02FEspendappdev_1.html or http://tinyurl.com/yj34qv His thesis, that rapid development, test-driven development, SOA, scripting, and web-based updates