Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Alan Bourke
We have a few - just a Windows server in a bunker somewhere with our application on it, and the users run it via RDP sessions. No biggie. The trouble is that 'the cloud' is a very nebulous term, and 'putting an app in it' even more so. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012, at 01:03 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: Our VFP data is on a server within the cloud space. The user apps are spread across multiple servers, but the data is all in one place so SELECT * FROM table

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Lew Schwartz
Maybe we could just call it the nebulosity instead of cloud, or be more specific about our hw/platform specs. My head's been in the clouds too long according to most of my friends, although I still reign from time to time with occasional clearing. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Alan Bourke

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Fred Taylor
It's not a VPN but it's supposed to be some kind of security on the backend. Maybe it's hardware only, but it is some kind of secure logon. Not my area to deal with. Fred On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012, at 01:03 PM, Stephen

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Thierry Nivelet
If your client wants a web-based (AKA browser-based) solution, please take a look at FoxInCloud. Thierry Nivelet FoxInCloud Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud http://foxincloud.com/ Le 31/07/12 22:41, Lew Schwartz a écrit : I have a potential client who will need to move app and data

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-08-01 Thread Jean MAURICE
Eh Thierry, on dort ? presque 24h pour réagir ! ;-) To all : I was wondering why Thierry took so long to react ! Jean ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
Really depends on the number of users. We moved several VFP apps to the cloud with about 125-150 users. Not quite sure how many servers that's spread across on the cloud, but I think it's at least 6 servers (4 for user logins and 2 for data). Everything accessed from RDP (remote desktop). Fred

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Lew Schwartz
If the cloud is mounted as a drive can you skip the RDP? -Lew Schwartz On Jul 31, 2012 4:50 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: Really depends on the number of users. We moved several VFP apps to the cloud with about 125-150 users. Not quite sure how many servers that's spread across

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
Not with our setup we can't. Once we RDP into the cloud, we can access the local computer's resources if need be, including internal network drives, but it is S L O W. Access on the cloud resources is very fast, just the local access is slow. Fred On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Lew Schwartz

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
I don't see where that should be much of a problem then. It took several weeks for things to work smoothly for ours, but it seems to work pretty well now. I know our hardware guy spent a lot of time on the phone with the cloud techies before things worked correctly, though, especially for the

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Lew Schwartz
This'll be a very generic cloud: either Google or Amazon. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see where that should be much of a problem then. It took several weeks for things to work smoothly for ours, but it seems to work pretty well now. I know

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: This'll be a very generic cloud: either Google or Amazon. ...or Rackspace. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/31/2012 4:50 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: Really depends on the number of users. We moved several VFP apps to the cloud with about 125-150 users. Not quite sure how many servers that's spread across on the cloud, but I think it's at least 6 servers (4 for user logins and 2 for data).

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
Not so that it's noticeable. We had a sever problem with generating/printing large reports early on (10-1 slower) but I'm pretty sure that's not as big a problem as it used to be. At least I don't hear the complaints as often, anyways. ;) The printing was local, and what was a 3 minute

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/31/2012 5:37 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: So, to be clear, has anyone simply mounted the drive ( or used the vendor's mounting routine) and run both app and data as though it were a local drive letter? Lew, Do you mean the Foxpro tables (is that what you're using on the backend?) are on that

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/31/2012 5:38 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: Not so that it's noticeable. We had a sever problem with generating/printing large reports early on (10-1 slower) but I'm pretty sure that's not as big a problem as it used to be. At least I don't hear the complaints as often, anyways. ;) The

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread M Jarvis
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a potential client who will need to move app and data to a cloud service. Does anyone have some experience or observations to share on this kind of thing? Lew- looks like 'cloud' means different things to different

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Lew Schwartz
Yes, VFP all the way. I agree with the sucky assessment, I just need to know if it'd work. This is a single user/owner start up. Fancy stuff down the pike when she can afford it. They'll probably be a timeout issue at public access points; I'm guessing that already. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:42

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/31/2012 5:49 PM, M Jarvis wrote: Like MB said, I suspect performance will be lacking... perhaps the EXE running local w/ data on the cloud would be acceptable, especially if it's just a single user app like you described... I can hear Steve Russell now. Dot Net Cloud Service! g --

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Lew Schwartz
Hadn't though of dropbox, but it's an idea. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:49 PM, M Jarvis brewda...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a potential client who will need to move app and data to a cloud service. Does anyone have some

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Lew Schwartz
Doesn't MS already have an offering in place? On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:51 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 7/31/2012 5:49 PM, M Jarvis wrote: Like MB said, I suspect performance will be lacking... perhaps the EXE running local w/ data on

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread M Jarvis
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com wrote: Hadn't though of dropbox, but it's an idea. Actually, I think I was wrong about DropBox being true 'cloud'... My files are stored locally on my machine, and synced to the DropBox server so they are accessible from

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 7/31/2012 5:49 PM, M Jarvis wrote: Like MB said, I suspect performance will be lacking... perhaps the EXE running local w/ data on the cloud would be acceptable, especially if it's

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
I'm really not sure what's actually on the backend for the cloud. (not Rackspace cloud). All I know is everyone logs into a central server and is balanced out to an actual server. Each server is Windows 2008/R2 server OS (12GB ram), but I don't know if it's virtual or otherwise. Certain people

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:49 PM, M Jarvis brewda...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a potential client who will need to move app and data to a cloud service. Does anyone have some experience or observations to share on this kind of

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
I think you're talking something more like www.livedrive.com. Fred On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com wrote: If the cloud is mounted as a drive can you skip the RDP? -Lew Schwartz On Jul 31, 2012 4:50 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: Really depends

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread Fred Taylor
Our VFP data is on a server within the cloud space. The user apps are spread across multiple servers, but the data is all in one place so SELECT * FROM table certainly does work and is multi-user as normal. Fred On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote: On

Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?

2012-07-31 Thread kamcginnis
, maintenance, licenses, floor space and hassle it may be cheap. - Original Message - From: Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Any one put an app in a cloud? Not so that it's noticeable. We had a sever