Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-06 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Pertinent to this discussion: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/11/ff-mat-honan-password-hacker/all/ On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:48 PM, GaryT wrote: > On 06/12/12 03:53, Ted Roche wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:42 AM, GaryT wrote: >> >>> There isn't a recognizable word in it. Certainly n

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-05 Thread GaryT
On 06/12/12 03:53, Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:42 AM, GaryT wrote: There isn't a recognizable word in it. Certainly not one you'd find in a dictionary. And, notice, no punctuation to give away any hints. There's no one trying to guess your password to see there is punctuation

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:18 PM, M Jarvis wrote: > I'm not sure I understand the logic behind doing this... assuming it > hasn't already been hacked, and assuming I have a 'good' password to > begin with, if I change it to another 'good' password, isn't it just > as likely to be hacked as the original

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-05 Thread GaryT
About 2-1/2 hrs ago I posted a message for this thread but it hasn't shown up. I suspect it's held up at the border crossing. Normal delivery / turnaround is less than 30 seconds. I think this one will sit in a queue until vetted by a human. Proof will be shown when this message is delivered

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-05 Thread GaryT
On 05/12/12 06:24, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" = 48 quintillion years??? So long and obvious is better? [snip] Obvious cannot be better, certainly not in a case where a human could be watching the results of a crack unfolding on the screen. But, long is very

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Ted Roche
Yeah, this is just a simplistic app that calculates the brute force time to guess a password depending on the complexity of the range of characters you use and then number of them. And makes a conservative (very low) guess as to how fast passwords can be guessed. The reality is that most passwords

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Kevin Cully
Real Software has a blog posting from yesterday about (better) password practices: http://www.realsoftwareblog.com/2012/12/10-tips-to-improve-password-security.html As Ted Roche says: "Security is a process." On 12/04/2012 02:33 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: It would take a desktop PC about6 milli

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
"abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" = 48 quintillion years??? So long and obvious is better? On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) < foxh...@information-architecture.com> wrote: > "thisismypassword" = 345,000 years > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >> On De

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
"thisismypassword" = 345,000 years On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Stephen Russell > wrote: > > > http://howsecureismypassword.net/ > > > > uri says it all. > > Not quite. "my password" will take 12 years to crack? > > > -- Ed Leafe >

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > http://howsecureismypassword.net/ > > uri says it all. Not quite. "my password" will take 12 years to crack? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenan

Re: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Oke, II
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out there to get you. I'd look at a least of common or insecure lists of passwords but no shot I'm entering any of mine on a site that I know nothing about. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intende

RE: [NF] safe? Passwords that is

2012-12-04 Thread Richard Kaye
Almost. I always thought sites like this were *really* created to encourage folks that are very proud of their clever passwords to contribute them for subsequent insertion into the Giant Evil Hacker List of Passwords. ;-) But maybe I'm just paranoid... -- rk -Original Message- From: P