Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-23 Thread Allen
lol Being non religious I call OT on happy Christmas messages Also just kidding. Al -Original Message- Just pulling your leg in defense of those times when I am called out for non-[OT] Nicholas Geti ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com S

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-22 Thread Nicholas Geti
Just pulling your leg in defense of those times when I am called out for non-[OT] Nicholas Geti - Original Message - From: "Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:35 AM Subject: Re: Anybody Heard About This? I would think NF but not OT myself Al -Origin

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-22 Thread Allen
I would think NF but not OT myself Al -Original Message- From: Nicholas Geti Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:37 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Anybody Heard About This? Hey. Where is the [OT]? Please. ___ Post Messages to

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-21 Thread Nicholas Geti
Hey. Where is the [OT]? Please. - Original Message - From: "M Jarvis" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Anybody Heard About This? > Store says perfect shopper here, carry on. Ya know, not trying to go all paranoid here, but some day they ar

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-21 Thread M Jarvis
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Bob Lee wrote: > I am afraid. Is already here. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_basket_analysis > Marketers track everything they can about you already. > beer and diapers?? trust me, I don't drink THAT much -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___

RE: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-21 Thread Bob Lee
PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Anybody Heard About This? > > Store says perfect shopper here, carry on. > Ya know, not trying to go all paranoid here, but some day they are going to be able to aggregate all our data... where and when we shop, what we buy, how much... Bought lau

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-21 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Bob Lee wrote: > Its really not different than what Target does, by using the hidden > camera's > watching how long each of us spend in the various isles, knowing what the > normal path is though their maze of a store. > I'd like to see them track *my* shopping p

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-21 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: > > We are being watched, in stores, why not for our activities on > > line. ? > Well, the assumption there is that being watched in stores is a good thing, for anything other than in-store security reasons.

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread AndyHC
Ok, I see - so it picks up a graphic (I'm guessing 1 pixel will do) from a website which logs the visit (like you see Google doing repeatedly). Shouldn't be too difficult to script, I might play around with that. AndyD 8-)# On 20/12/2012 22:58, Alan Bourke wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at

RE: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Jerry Wolper
> We are being watched, in stores, why not for our activities on > line. ? I'm not thrilled about being tracked that way in stores, or about having my purchases tracked and analyzed. I feel the same way online, where I (should) have more control about what comes and goes from my machine. -J

RE: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Lee
xTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:05 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Anybody Heard About This? On 12/20/2012 10:27 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bob Lee wrote: >>

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 12/20/2012 10:27 AM, Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bob Lee wrote: Do a search on "marketing automation", companies like Marketo, and Perdot etc, have taken this concept to really interesting levels. Where you can substitute "deeply disturbing" for "interesting." ROFL

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Paul McNett
On 12/20/12 9:28 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > What this does is return a notification to the sender that the recipient > has opened the mail, without any knowledge or intervention required by > the recipient. Basically if you are the recipient and your mail client > can display emails with embedded gra

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 04:55 PM, AndyHC wrote: > I'm missing something here - I think every email client I have ever used > had >option>return receipt. > What this does is return a notification to the sender that the recipient has opened the mail, without any knowledge or intervention requir

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Michael Oke, II
Sure but most clients allow you to suppress the sending of same. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Dec 20, 2012, at 8:55 AM, AndyHC wrote: > I'm missing something here - I think every email client I have ever used

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread AndyHC
I'm missing something here - I think every email client I have ever used had >option>return receipt. AndyD 8-)# On 20/12/2012 21:04, Paul McNett wrote: I guess javascript would have to be enabled in the email reader to track things like how long the email is open and where the mouse is hov

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Alan Bourke
Pretty cool how it works - however if it's still using a hidden image then it won't work for anyone who reads mail in text-only form, or has auto download of images turned off, and so on. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: h

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Paul McNett
I guess javascript would have to be enabled in the email reader to track things like how long the email is open and where the mouse is hovering, etc. On 12/20/12 6:46 AM, Bob Lee wrote: > This technology has been around for years. > Marketers use it every second, to track how many emails are op

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Paul McNett
So basically to read the message I need to follow a link to a website, right? And how is 'received' defined: 1) my email server received the message from readnotify.com 2) my email server scripts placed it in my inbox (as opposed to spam) 3) my email client program downloaded that messages header

RE: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Lee
This technology has been around for years. Marketers use it every second, to track how many emails are opened and by whom, how long the email remains open, if links are clicked.. Do a search on "marketing automation", companies like Marketo, and Perdot etc, have taken this concept to really in

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-19 Thread Sytze de Boer
I'm not sure if I'm on same wavelength, but I use a system called ReadNotify There are times when, for legal reasons, I need to be able to prove you have received AND read my email. I send the email tosome...@somewhere.readnotify.com I then get a message when they've received it, and when they've

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-19 Thread Paul McNett
On 12/19/12 2:23 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > http://www.msgtag.com/home/ > > It sounds like it does a return receipt on email without user intervention. I'm fairly certain that if someone sent me such a message, Thunderbird would warn me that it thinks the message is a scam.. Paul

Re: Anybody Heard About This?

2012-12-19 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Interesting Jeff! Although - I must say - this was my favorite part on the website: "A few MSGTAG users have even told us that they use read proof to figure out who is serious on dating sites. Did she really not get the email, or is she not that keen? With MSGTAG email tracking you now have read