Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
I have two other machines. One is running Win2K -- MUCH more reliable and effecient. I'm also 98% retired from Foxpro work...any I get now will be an accident from an old client... Adam Buckland wrote: But how will you do you FoxPro work if you don't have Windoze? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
BTW, Hitler was a believer. On 1/19/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be conjecture to say that the world might be a better place today if not for the Zionist support of Adolf Hitler in 1933 (as well as the IBM collusion with the Nazis years later) but it is almost certain that it would be different. B+ HALinNY --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
Rick Schummer wrote: I'll be interested in hearing if others have solved this and are using this architecture. I suppose you could use Stephen Settimi's approach in EXCLUDING almost EVERYTHING basically and referring to it in code like DO FORM .\Forms\MyForm or CREATEOBJ(MyForm,.\classes\MyLib.vcx) or DO .\progs\MyProg.prg. You beat the cache issue then; however as I noted in my original post, that's a heck of a lot of things to manage. That'd work if you've got an automatic updating utility imo. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Chet: If you are retired from FoxPro work, what are you working with these days? What types of apps and what development language - if I may ask. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 2:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ??? I have two other machines. One is running Win2K -- MUCH more reliable and effecient. I'm also 98% retired from Foxpro work...any I get now will be an accident from an old client... Adam Buckland wrote: But how will you do you FoxPro work if you don't have Windoze? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/x-pkcs7-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
I suppose you could use Stephen Settimi's approach in EXCLUDING almost EVERYTHING basically and referring to it in code... Yes, this definitely defeats the caching problem, but now you are managing the release of source code to production instead of APPs. You really only need one EXE and just deploy the source directly. Otherwise you have to manage one EXE, multiple APPs, *and* the source code. This by definition defeats one big benefit Bill Anderson discussed, which is the reduction of system testing. In fact, taking this approach increases the need both internal system testing and customer acceptance testing. Worse, it also exposes the source code to unauthorized changes by anyone with a copy of VFP. Of course it depends on the circumstances with the customer, but I think this opens up a serious can of worms for most deployments outside of an internal IT department and maybe some Web sites. Interesting discussion for sure. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Basses, Guitars, audio recording equipment and Vocals... No more computer work. I did 42 years of it, that's enough!! (Plus, the mouse/trackball messed up my hands) Jeff Johnson wrote: Chet: If you are retired from FoxPro work, what are you working with these days? What types of apps and what development language - if I may ask. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 2:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ??? I have two other machines. One is running Win2K -- MUCH more reliable and effecient. I'm also 98% retired from Foxpro work...any I get now will be an accident from an old client... Adam Buckland wrote: But how will you do you FoxPro work if you don't have Windoze? ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/x-pkcs7-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Slap Hillary
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Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 19 January 2007 5:43 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:54 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: snip I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. Hi Michael! Every winter they come up with this utter nonsense. I know, it is too cold for them to play outside. Yeah! Scientists! The only true science is the science of Chi and its paths, and the multiversal radiations from the planets that configure our astrological destiny. Hi Ricardo! Here I thought you only hated Jews and Israel. Nope, I don't even 'hate' Israel. I deeply disagree with their government and the ways it relates with the world. I think it's a fascist government full of thieves and murderers, who only understand the kind of reasons thieves and murderers would understand. That's why I'd oppose that government in whatever way I see fit. Jews? I don't know them all, I've known a couple whom I despise and dislike, and I know some others whom I like and enjoy spending time with. Clear enough? Or should I keep explaining till it finally gets through your skull? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
What bullshit. I don't see you saying terrible things about Cuba, Syria, Iran, North Korea. Why? Because they're not Jews. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 19 January 2007 5:43 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:54 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: snip I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. Hi Michael! Every winter they come up with this utter nonsense. I know, it is too cold for them to play outside. Yeah! Scientists! The only true science is the science of Chi and its paths, and the multiversal radiations from the planets that configure our astrological destiny. Hi Ricardo! Here I thought you only hated Jews and Israel. Nope, I don't even 'hate' Israel. I deeply disagree with their government and the ways it relates with the world. I think it's a fascist government full of thieves and murderers, who only understand the kind of reasons thieves and murderers would understand. That's why I'd oppose that government in whatever way I see fit. Jews? I don't know them all, I've known a couple whom I despise and dislike, and I know some others whom I like and enjoy spending time with. Clear enough? Or should I keep explaining till it finally gets through your skull? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
Rick Schummer wrote: I suppose you could use Stephen Settimi's approach in EXCLUDING almost EVERYTHING basically and referring to it in code... Yes, this definitely defeats the caching problem, but now you are managing the release of source code to production instead of APPs. You really only need one EXE and just deploy the source directly. Otherwise you have to manage one EXE, multiple APPs, *and* the source code. This by definition defeats one big benefit Bill Anderson discussed, which is the reduction of system testing. In fact, taking this approach increases the need both internal system testing and customer acceptance testing. Worse, it also exposes the source code to unauthorized changes by anyone with a copy of VFP. Of course it depends on the circumstances with the customer, but I think this opens up a serious can of worms for most deployments outside of an internal IT department and maybe some Web sites. Excellent points. When I did this before, it was as an employee back in the 90s for an internal system and it worked well. But you're right...for external clients, this might be something to certainly avoid! Interesting discussion for sure. Yes! Sometimes we get some good ones here. g -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
It all points to Israel. A tiny country surrounded by Islamic savages, and Israel is the problem. A country the size of NJ being dwarfed by the countries around it, and Israel is the root of all problems. Israel is the scapegoat for the uneducated savages whose lives suck because they live in an Islamic country. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: What bullshit. I don't see you saying terrible things about Cuba, Syria, Iran, North Korea. Why? Because they're not Jews. But you don't see me saying terrible things about Gengis Khan either. That's just because the subject (understand subject?) the conversation came to (actually, the subject Pete took the conversation to) were Jews and Israel. About those other countries we can talk any time you want, and I'll give you my opinion. Ask and thou shalt be answered. Though I can't guarantee you'll like what the answers may be. --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Friday 19 January 2007 5:43 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:54 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: snip I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. Hi Michael! Every winter they come up with this utter nonsense. I know, it is too cold for them to play outside. Yeah! Scientists! The only true science is the science of Chi and its paths, and the multiversal radiations from the planets that configure our astrological destiny. Hi Ricardo! Here I thought you only hated Jews and Israel. Nope, I don't even 'hate' Israel. I deeply disagree with their government and the ways it relates with the world. I think it's a fascist government full of thieves and murderers, who only understand the kind of reasons thieves and murderers would understand. That's why I'd oppose that government in whatever way I see fit. Jews? I don't know them all, I've known a couple whom I despise and dislike, and I know some others whom I like and enjoy spending time with. Clear enough? Or should I keep explaining till it finally gets through your skull? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
This was the scenario I found in vegas. No project No APP No source code system A disaster waiting to happen. And worse.. Different versions of the same named PRG in various folders... No idea which one was the right one.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:38 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management I suppose you could use Stephen Settimi's approach in EXCLUDING almost EVERYTHING basically and referring to it in code... Yes, this definitely defeats the caching problem, but now you are managing the release of source code to production instead of APPs. You really only need one EXE and just deploy the source directly. Otherwise you have to manage one EXE, multiple APPs, *and* the source code. This by definition defeats one big benefit Bill Anderson discussed, which is the reduction of system testing. In fact, taking this approach increases the need both internal system testing and customer acceptance testing. Worse, it also exposes the source code to unauthorized changes by anyone with a copy of VFP. Of course it depends on the circumstances with the customer, but I think this opens up a serious can of worms for most deployments outside of an internal IT department and maybe some Web sites. Interesting discussion for sure. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Vfp 10
Rick, If you want the current future of VFP as Microsoft declares it, go directly to the VFP Roadmap for their disclosure: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/roadmap/ Not much, is it? Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.emryldlife.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
