Re: [NF] [Mac Again] Permissions, was Localhost gone with the wind
On Nov 30, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: How do I give Apache permission to gain access to the directories containing my code? I tried chmod with full permissions and that did not help. You might need to use 'chown' to change the owner to the user that apache is running as. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/85a06d70-eb47-4ee8-9137-e17e2a16e...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for cloud photo storage
On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Joe Yoder j...@wheypower.com wrote: I understand the possibility of dumping photos to the cloud and pulling them back. What I am hoping for is a cloud site with full photo management capabilities. I considered developing a system with that capability to run on the client's LAN but realize that doing it in the cloud makes more sense. Have you looked at Picasa? (https://picasaweb.google.com) The first gig of storage is free; 25GB more is $2.49/month, and 100GB more is $4.99/month. You have full control over who has access to your photos. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a953cb5f-b0cc-45a9-bd83-d5be8094d...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] [Mac Again] Localhost gone with the wind
On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: One thing I meant to add before: even though I am starting Apache manually. The documentation Ed linked to says it will be *off* when you reboot, unless one follows the additional steps the article outlines. However, Apache *is* on when I reboot. I wonder if there are multiple versions installed or something doofy like that??? From the article: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Keep in mind that the steps so far will only keep the server running while the system is booted, so if you restart then the server will be disabled again. To enable the server even after subsequent reboots, then you will need to enable the launch daemon for the server, which can be done with the following command: sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd Disabled -bool false As with the previous command, this one can be reversed by repeating it but changing the false text to true. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If you want to see what your current setting is, the command would be: defaults read /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd Disabled -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5f3af895-1cd4-416c-985b-64d721201...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] [Mac Again] Localhost gone with the wind
On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: Clues for the Clueless? Try this to see if it answers your questions: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57481978-263/how-to-enable-web-sharing-in-os-x-mountain-lion/ ( -or- http://goo.gl/efWKP ) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/250828e0-8623-4b3c-a5c5-35acdcee2...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Unfortunate saddening news..
On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: Unfortunately, I have the sad task to let the group know that one of our members Peter Hart has passed away. His son rang me about 20 minutes ago and let me know the news. Peter, as you may be aware was struck down with a heart attack some time ago and was recovering gradually from it but unfortunately a second attack was too much from him. So sorry to hear this. I never met the man in person, but I still feel like I knew him as a friend from his contributions here. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/fb4c64f9-fcfc-4012-bed8-7c3a65510...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Generating random sample data
On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Kevin Cully kcu...@cullytechnologies.com wrote: I'm trying to generate a good sample data and I'm trying to generate it as quickly as possible of course. I'm not sure I think I know =RAND() like I think I did. Check out http://www.generatedata.com/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ac5a06d9-314e-4ede-9225-33c2c24c6...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:05 PM, M Jarvis brewda...@gmail.com wrote: C'mon folks - let's see if we can push this up over $1000 !! The final total was $900. I can't thank all of you enough for your generosity. I just got back from the ride. It was a little shorter than originally planned; the route they set up was only 64.3 miles (heh- only!). It was pretty cool when we started (especially for San Antonio), but the sun warmed things up pretty quickly. And just in case there are any doubters... http://runkeeper.com/user/edleafe/activity/131746072 -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3360da15-6a5b-4c81-b08e-92b001412...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] RealBasic and MySQL (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
On Nov 16, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: I think the days of tools having their own proprietary databases are well behind us, thankfully. +1 -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ec36edce-ce5a-47a0-ab6a-888f9dad0...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: No, I haven't - you guys have! I just checked this morning, and so far the total donated is $675. You all are incredible! Thank you all so much! Today I picked up my packet for the ride, and I get a feeling I might have some fun... http://instagram.com/p/SER599iEc0/ BTW, we're up to $890! You guys and gals are freakin' incredible! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3bddfc34-52ec-4819-9e3c-f95db22e2...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Jerry Wolper jwol...@swanzoco.com wrote: Depends on who your partner is. Hey, it's a group ride, so anything goes... ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8df56342-1dee-45ce-b132-b2bc518a0...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho e28cha...@yahoo.com.br wrote: I would like an application that would not charge the developer when he is developing. Now if and when I sell the product of my development then I could be charged. I think that way we could try several products till we find the best for us. Some times a project takes months to be sold and 30 days trial is not enough. What about a completely free app? With full source code? And no license fees? And no license restrictions? Too good to be true, right? ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3211e4fd-014a-459e-86af-c59d0462a...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...
On Nov 12, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: COBOL has been around since, what, 1960-something, and In 1997, the Gartner Group reported that 80% of the world's business ran on COBOL with over 200 billion lines of code in existence and with an estimated 5 billion lines of new code annually. So old tech does not necessarily equate to bad idea. If the question posed was whether to get rid of an existing VFP app simply because it is old tech, I would agree with this 100%. Unlike humans, older tech tends to run faster and more reliably as time progresses. However, if the question was what technology to use to develop a new application, I think the answer for both COBOL and VFP should be the same: absolutely not. There are many alternatives that can do the job as well or better, and they will be much more supportable in the long run. There are precious few new developers entering either of those languages these days, and the only reason I can see for a consultant to recommend either is to line their own pockets, as there is no way that such a choice for new development could ever be in the best interest of the client. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's the way that this industry works. If you're not willing to learn new stuff, you really should find another line of work. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/52af40df-a40d-44d5-9451-3af409d8b...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote: Ed's blown away his total No, I haven't - you guys have! I just checked this morning, and so far the total donated is $675. You all are incredible! Thank you all so much! Some people ask me why I still host this list even though I haven't used VFP in years, and I always tell them it's because Fox isn't just a programming language, it's an entire community. I think that the response to my request demonstrates has demonstrated that very clearly. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/231791a8-7a37-49b0-b9d1-54971b98f...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 10, 2012, at 1:58 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: When's the deadline? I tried the other day and it rejected my bank card. I just changed my address so I'm told that it should be worked out (the security validation stuff in sync) by next week. The ride is one week from today, but to be honest, I doubt they would ever refuse a donation. :) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b4316162-ee99-4b78-ad4c-383f55aef...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Richard Kaye rk...@artfact.com wrote: Maybe you should change that profile picture to the Devcon dress photo. You might get a bigger response from the ProFox community... g,dr Perhaps, but then the donations would all be singles. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/68787064-7399-42fa-9d46-6d9136679...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: Are you worried about being tested when it's done. For a pulse, yes. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/59a6f290-8d17-4dd0-9f1f-d1bc3a7de...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: ... no, it was 200 MILES and 13 hours of hard riding, the last hour done entirely on auto pilot I'm afraid. Was that spread over a weekend? The MS150 ride does a century on Saturday, and the other 50-60 miles on Sunday. I don't think I could do 150 in a day, much less 200! Mind you the beers went down really well afterwards ... and I didn't need so much either. I did a 50 mile ride last weekend as a warmup, and yes, the thought of enjoying that beer afterwards was what kept me going. Well, that and the fact that I had to get back to my car to get home! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/311dc973-5cfa-4454-9de3-5578151b2...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:49 AM, AndyHC a...@hawthorncottage.com wrote: no can do from here - it just times out Hey, thanks for trying. The website seems pretty low tech; the donation data is updated daily, so if they can't create dynamic pages from live data, they're probably using some antiquated server running 1990s software. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6861383d-57d2-4503-ad6e-cd767cb99...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[ADMIN] Want to help?
Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money – at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/28714f78-0827-466e-9ab2-54d5e8d2e...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The delete key is my friend.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: Looking forward to Wed 11-7 Yeah, like that will stem the flow of raw sewage. My delete key would be worn out if I relied on it; twit filters are the only solution IMO. And if you think there is vitriol now, wait until after Obama is re-elected http://www.salon.com/2012/10/27/frank_rich_right_will_rage_if_obama_wins/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e774-0d70-48f2-80b5-4bed486e4...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Silly Form Question: VFP
On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Rafael Copquin rcopq...@fibertel.com.ar wrote: BTW, when I said hits right on the nail I was simply making a literal translation from a Spanish language phrase that is used to express the fact that the person in question came up with the correct answer to a problem. The English version of that phrase is hit the nail on the head. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f434b96e-5284-4d9f-88c7-cbc13e4c8...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Hurricane Sandy Conspriracy Theories
The article calls them outrageous, but they sound like a typical ProFox OT post. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/most-outrageous-hurricane-sandy-consipiracy-theori ( -or- http://j.mp/VzuR1a ) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/968114fd-3e7b-4bf7-80b7-547057f2a...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[ADMIN] Server migrations this weekend
This weekend I will be moving my entire internet presence from a single small cloud server that's worked well for the past 3+ years, to a new set of cloud servers that will be better suited to handle the loads. I'm sure that there will be disruptions as the DNS changes propagate, and there may also be bugs that turn up, too, as I'm upgrading the software for both the website and the mailing lists. So please bear with me! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8d505e7b-2f0a-41c9-a3e4-3201fe082...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] The Science of Denying Science
Perhaps after reading this people here will stop trying to convince those whose opinions differ, since it ain't gonna happen. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney ( -or- http://j.mp/UHAID6 ) Of course, those on one end of the spectrum will reject this out-of-hand, because it is based on science, and is presented in Mother Jones. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/33b0981a-5163-449d-9aa8-df0ba3cb0...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: auto increment
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Embrace new technology and thinking as it is formalised and introduced but never forget that innovation and logical thinking is normally the way to solve most difficult programming problems and that is mostly a natural ability to concentrate under pressure and think outside the box... to whatever degree you are able. IMO, if you can't do this, then being a programmer is not the right career for you. The only thing you can count on is that new stuff will always be coming, and the best developers are those who can discern between real improvements and things that are simply new and shiny. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3e077321-2d68-4e96-8508-2c4673ba7...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] 10 Things Most Americans Don't Know About America
If you're one of those people who think that the USA is better than every other country at everything, stop reading and click 'Delete' now. This will offend you greatly. For the rest of us, it is a sobering look at America from the point of view of an American who has lived in many parts of the world. Imagine you have a brother and he’s an alcoholic. He has his moments, but you keep your distance from him. You don’t mind him for the occasional family gathering or holiday. You still love him. But you don’t want to be around him. This is how I lovingly describe my current relationship with the United States. The United States is my alcoholic brother. And although I will always love him, I don’t want to be near him at the moment. http://bananenplanet.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/10-things-most-americans-dont-know-about-america/ ( -or- http://goo.gl/udBAH ) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1def6ee7-4899-4871-b794-afbcde290...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Domain renewal
On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: At first - you mentioned about the Advertising - and at first I thought you were talking about their overly sexy commercials they do - and maybe you thought that Those were disgusting. Glad you steered me straight in your next sentence! Actually, you were correct the first time. I don't like their sleazy commercials, and chose not to give them any more of my money. The upselling was annoying, too, and that just sealed the deal. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2e1c0eaa-5199-4599-bc90-7f0056617...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Domain renewal
On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: I have a .us domain that's about to expire, and GoDaddy wants $20/year to renew it. Can someone recommend a cheaper registrar? http://namecheap.com I switched all my domains from GoDaddy a few years ago due to their disgusting advertising, and so far have been very happy with Namecheap. Not only are the prices good, you aren't subjected to all that godawful upselling that GoDaddy insists on. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/498d8832-4429-4dcb-a3e3-f2ac271f6...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: auto increment
On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: Because they are GUIDs - globally unique. That fact is very important in some applications, but overkill for a lot of others. When OpenStack was first created, it used auto-incremented keys to identify resources such as servers, volumes, networks, etc. Later it was redesigned to be able to scale horizontally; iow, scaling by creating separate independent deployments that could communicate and act as a single system. Of course, all the code to create PKs had to be changed to use UUIDs, and all the relational code had to be updated to reference the UUID keys instead of the integer keys. The update was a huge pain, and to this day there are both integer and UUID keys in most tables as a result. The worst part is that several of us argued for UUIDs from the start, but lost that discussion to those who favored the simplicity of letting the database handle key generation. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d88e3e2d-3e3f-4b43-8121-a953a8f8e...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: auto increment
On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul McNett wrote: Guids are nice but can add a significant size overhead to your database. Yes, that is the one disadvantage I've identified, but storage is cheap. It isn't as if query performance necessarily goes down as the database grows in size. Actually, query performance can typically improve. Keys that sort sequentially don't form well-balanced trees, and many indexing algorithms rely upon a tree distribution. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5eb7fc81-5267-4eeb-b22e-fee937f3a...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: auto increment
On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: Unless speed is of the utmost importance, I've used select max(idno)+1 as idno from target into cursor nextkey to get the next value. Are all your systems limited to a single user? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b31c6236-af9c-4203-aa29-0c79ce508...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[ADMIN] Testing
Just verifying some db changes... -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a45fe922-2d0b-419d-9f59-bfa9fa4fc...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Ed's leafe.com site error
On Aug 15, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Tried to upload a file to the Leafe.com server for the other pProfoxers and every time I try it throws back n error: 400 Bad Request The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect. No file specified Just thought I'd let you know. Thanks - I'll look into it and let you know what I find. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8bd268f6-73eb-4538-84d7-e59bbd17d...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Ed's leafe.com site error
On Aug 16, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Tried to upload a file to the Leafe.com server for the other pProfoxers and every time I try it throws back n error: 400 Bad Request The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect. No file specified Just thought I'd let you know. Thanks - I'll look into it and let you know what I find. OK, I think I've found the problem. Try again. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c9141550-2a07-4699-9d1a-cd66378d7...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Does this concern anyone else about using an Apple device?
On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: If true, does that make anyone else wonder about the risk of owning an Apple device? Or am I being naive and the same could happen with a Windows box? Was it GPS? There were probably some forensics involved that are not disclosed to the average Joe on the street...something like the MAC address of his NIC? Sorry to burst your Big Brother fantasies, but this is an option that is available on all Macs, iPads and iPhones. http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/using-apples-find-my-mac-feature/ ( -or- http://j.mp/TFr9nU ) I've used it with my iPhone on several occasions. One time I had gone out to lunch, and when I got back, I realized that I no longer had my phone. I was ready to go back to the restaurant, but first I used Find My iPhone to locate it, and discovered that it was in the parking lot at work. Apparently it had fallen out of my pocket in my friend's car on the trip back from the restaurant, so recovering it was pretty simple. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f947242e-c371-44e9-9220-92f480b3a...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Does this concern anyone else about using an Apple device?
On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Just would prefer that turning said feature on, or off, would be completely within my control and only my control. ??? And what leads you to believe that it isn't? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bb9c8422-3f78-4b32-b498-61bcd2fb6...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Does this concern anyone else about using an Apple device?
On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Lack of experience with the device(s) in question? Just a WAG of course. Combined with an inability to read? ;-) To take advantage of this feature, you will have to turn it on. This is simple. Just make sure the box for enabling Find My Mac is checked when you set up iCloud (or you can go to System Preferences, select iCloud and then enable it there). Note that iCloud requires the use of Lion, the latest version of the Mac operating system. And using Find My Mac means you have to allow Apple to access your Mac’s location, something you might not want to do if you (and not just your Mac) are on the run. Seems pretty clear: you will have to turn it on and you have to allow Apple to access your Mac’s location. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4ee0f62e-c388-4bf1-967e-eeb468283...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Does this concern anyone else about using an Apple device?
On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: But Backdoors are pretty common. No? Not on any system I've ever owned. There were the Sony rootkits from a few years ago, but those only affected Windows computers. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9e595fbd-5817-44f3-9b85-cc3f6e35f...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Quicker to USE AGAIN instead of SELECT * ?
On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Peter Cushing wrote: Well, to quote our good friend Ed, it depends... Sorry but it depends is © Ted Roche It's easy to remember - Ted is the one who wears Depends. ducks! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c857cf70-a208-40b1-abfa-ff1c789c0...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: allow HTML emails with embedded screen shots
On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:17 AM, James Harvey wrote: Is it possible to send HTML emails to ProFox with embedded screen shots of code, examples, etc. Sometimes a picture helps explain the situation. There are several reasons for this. First, bandwidth is an issue. Sure, most people would be considerate and make sure that they only post important things, but people have proven again and again that they are incapable of trimming replies to a post. That would result in the same image being sent and re-sent dozens of times to hundreds of subscribers. Second, binary files and attachments are the primary vector for virus transmission in emails. A while back I analyzed my logs to see how many emails to the lists I hosts had been filtered out for containing malware, and extrapolating out, it would have been hundreds of such emails a month. Third, not everyone is interested in every thread, and might not appreciate having their mailboxes filled with irrelevant (to them) images and other such attached files. It's simply better list etiquette to post your image or other file to a freely available service, and only send the link to the list. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/25055bf6-87df-42d6-b83d-199b1275e...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP needs to REST
On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:08 PM, John Harvey wrote: I need to see how you send client side certs up to the server for LexisNexis (Accurint) and was hoping someone had some experience with that. I've been looking through Rick Strahl's wwhttp class and I see he has the addpostkey() method, but I think I need more on what the exact syntax should be. Generally authentication credentials are sent in a header for the request; you'd have to contact the service to get the exact header name they expect. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d443623f-0f7d-4037-9f07-e79b175dd...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP needs to REST
On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:48 PM, John Harvey wrote: Yep, I've got a conference call with them tomorrow. Generally, API calls should be documented somewhere. Do they keep the docs a secret? ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/8ccad1b2-dccb-49aa-b940-32a3b4690...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] This explains a lot about the trolls on this list, too
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/01/online_comments_are_toxic_salpart/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b85e51f6-56ff-4d8a-a557-02e678f45...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] The Rackspace Open Cloud
Freakin' awesome ad put together by Rackspace UK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX5PF6jj0g4 -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b75f8d42-23ca-4ce0-9d21-27cc0177e...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The Rackspace Open Cloud
On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: Inspired by Dollar Shave Club? http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/ Yep - they're a client. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e967c6c8-97cd-4755-8a85-4c046a2c1...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] KULULA airlines
On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Kulula is an Airline with head office situated in Johannesburg . Kulula airline attendants make an effort to make the in-flight safety lecture and announcements a bit more entertaining. Interesting - this sounds identical to the jokes told by Southwest Airlines here in the States. Google quickly found this: http://funehumor.com/fun_doc2/fun_0266.shtml -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9633a028-d333-4dda-abe8-3adccef36...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Any one put an app in a cloud?
On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: This'll be a very generic cloud: either Google or Amazon. ...or Rackspace. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/aba7c182-0b5d-48ae-b547-3f557356f...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Logo
On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: No offense taken, it's just a good idea to mention that for the benefit of those newer to VFP. Is there anyone still using VFP who is new to VFP? ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2d783dfc-46b3-4385-bce5-6f31af991...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [Fwd: Disable Hardware Widard ? feeling the need for SPEED.]
On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: Is this for real?? Dunno. It's from an actual subscriber, which is why it made it through, but it sure looks like a spam attempt. Now you know why I strip attachments. :) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/aeadf236-544d-4cf3-8d8f-f66e1257c...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: How to disable Found Hardware Wizard ?.
On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:41 PM, 999888 wrote: PS this post was suspected of being Spam, Sorry to Alan Lukackko and to Ed. Am dyslexic and mailed to Leafe@Profox. It bounced so I attached the original to a new post. No worries. It was a combination of the lack of text body and the rather odd originating email address. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d20df32a-d202-40e6-b71e-d2d10c840...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] web server specs
On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote: What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days? We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with running that. I'd recommend using a virtual server in the cloud for two main reasons: you don't have to worry about maintaining hardware, and you get a ton of redundancy in things like power supply and networking. Of course, my preference is the Rackspace Cloud, where you can get a Windows server for under $60/month, but there are other cloud providers out there to choose from. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/10cbf5bc-a166-41a4-8e4c-70302ec58...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] web server specs
On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:24 PM, M Jarvis wrote: I'd be all over going to the cloud for this, but I just double checked and have an unofficial 'official' requirement for this to be hardware onsite here at the hospital. Comfort level for putting this elsewhere just isn't there, and it's the comfy people with the checkbook. He who has the gold makes the rules, right? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e27c8eb-a617-4fb5-ab0a-3b24875b8...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Backup
On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Ted Roche wrote: As a general rule, non-FoxPro TECHNICAL subjects like this should have [NF] in the subject line, to show that it's a technical, but Not FoxPro, question. OT is usually reserved for jokes, political debate, and chatter. Thanks for your concern about this, but technical talk is welcomed. http://leafe.com/profox_faq/#subject_labels -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6df74b19-8124-482a-8172-385e8edb4...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: report problem
On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, carol wrote: Victor is 20 minutes from Rochester. And 10 minutes from Penfield, my old home town. :) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/79a09ef6-9664-4e1d-bac8-f8b1b7156...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: Freedom. There's nothing more important. A bit hyperbolic, but yes, I agree. But freedom only exists in the context of a society. Because we as a society have laws that regulate what people can and cannot do, does that mean that our freedom is gone? Or are these laws what enables us to be free? I reluctantly set up ProFoxTech a few years ago because several people made the case that they saw this list as a valuable technical resource, but were not able to subscribe because some of the posts were not appropriate for their work environment. In my mind, that amounted to the actions of a few suppressing the rights of the rest. So the tech-only version of this list was created; note that it is not a separate list, but a filtered subset. Anyone who wants to see all list postings is perfectly free to do so. But this filtering required some additional effort to achieve. It would require that the list be moderated in some fashion to separate the technical stuff from the rest of the posts. Since I didn't want to spend my days reviewing posts, I chose to make the list self-moderated: post what you like, but it's up to you to indicate when you are straying outside of technical areas by adding the [OT] tag to the subject. By and large this system has worked wonderfully, even though some people are a bit forgetful from time to time about this. Please also note that Pete is still perfectly free to post OT stuff. Nothing has changed in that regard. The only thing that's changed is that for the next two weeks none of his posts will be sent to the ProFoxTech subscribers. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f58e2441-f695-487a-bff7-cc75e34d3...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Whoa! Big shocker here!
On Jul 3, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: How about repairing roads/bridges across the country, just for a start? No doubt there are some real needs in that area. But that would create jobs, and we all know that the government can't create jobs! Besides, using tax money to benefit society in general is the very definition of socialism -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6aa5cf92-47e3-4336-994d-713e400df...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[ADMIN] Abuse on the lists
I have received a flood of complaints from list members about the recent disgusting posts of hatred. The poster has been suspended from the tech list for a period of two weeks. I am sorry for having to take this action, but we've always had a sensible policy of permitting all sorts of posts on the OT list, but restricting the profoxtech list to technical matters. Some people receive the list at work, and cannot be having such backwards, brainless hate spewing into their inbox. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3667032b-30e2-44b2-b5be-092e05b32...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] A Replacement for the OT posts?
I think that this might be a better outlet for those who regularly rant on the OT side of the list: http://politicalscreamingmatch.com/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/eca9864c-e167-4f17-8dbc-f5b9356be...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] A plain crook
On Jun 22, 2012, at 8:31 PM, John Harvey wrote: However, even John Stewart understands Obama's hypocrisy on the claim of executive privilege. Gotta agree with that. Every president uses it, and never for a good reason. You can't complain about the other guy when he does it, and then look the other way when your guy does. Obama (rightfully) criticized Bush for his use of it, and now that he's in office, he's using it to cover up the shady practices behind the Fast and Furious scandal. Democrats should be as outraged at this as they were when Bush covered up the Valerie Plame scandal. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/585057ca-539a-4902-8efb-ef38b4798...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] NO more messages ?
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Gojko B. wrote: Got not any message after 1.05.2012 ? Am I excluded or ... I checked the subscriber list, and you are not currently subscribed to either ProFox or ProFoxTech. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2cc6281b-8d4c-4f91-a3ea-6825c9b24...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UI Design ideas
On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: Removing the old stuff would make the app cleaner, faster, and easier to learn and use, but at the price of breaking legacy code that might require a lot of work to update. Then you run the legacy code on the legacy version. New code runs on the new, cleaner version. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b6b72e3f-10e6-4e71-a2b2-a37910f34...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UI Design ideas
On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: You may find that in order to update your browser, you must first upgrade your OS to meet the browser's dependencies, but doing so will create problems running VFP, so you can become stuck. People think they don't have to upgrade or stay current, but its a necessity; unless you want to become isolated, venerable to security risks, or broken down, ( eg the maintenance of older system or incompatibility of older drivers with current hardware and OS dilemma ). If you plan on running a piece of software indefinitely, you should never expect to do so on a machine that is not going to be frozen in time. So either use a dedicated system for your legacy stuff, or run it in a VM on a modern system. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3ca04991-b5cf-4001-bbbf-cb77c9671...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] A plain crook
On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: It is a very bold move to take but Prez has the protection that nobody is going to to try and stop it for the backlash it can only bring on. Of course every little weasel there is desperate to get re-elected as well as tow the company line and keep the top people from a potential loss. Funny you should use the word 'weasel'. I was thinking about that very word after seeing how the statement Obama made that Krauthammer seized upon was taken out of context, and immediately after the clip he showed ended, Obama had gone on to say what he *could* do legally, and included exactly what he did last week in that. So the very notion that Obama somehow contradicted himself is ludicrous at best, and deliberately deceitful at worst. I'll leave it up to you to judge how intentional this was. As usual, John Stewart summed up the hypocrisy of the complaints best; the bit on Obama's statement starts around 3 minutes into this clip: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-19-2012/democalypse-2012---pander-express-edition---obama-s-immigration-reform ( -or- http://j.mp/MHXnsl ) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/954a5462-5f65-4ffc-9069-ec4333f98...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] He invented the Web.
On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: That said, no where did I say that he 'claimed to have invented the Internet'. Kurt wrote: I was skeptical by the title of this message - since many have busted on Gore for claiming he invented The Web. Your reply: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal. I'll leave it for those who are familiar with logic to parse your reply. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/33c0462f-d301-48fa-9d9c-6b2132deb...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] He invented the Web.
On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Gore's claim was about the Internet not just the web. Berners-Lee, while a bit nuts, is the real deal. I know I'm talking to a wall if after 12 years people are still repeating a lie, but... http://websearch.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJzTi=1sdn=websearchcdn=computetm=15f=10tt=12bt=1bts=0zu=http%3A//www.sethf.com/gore/ ( -or- http://j.mp/KHXVji ) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c98e4d08-dc86-4e8c-b639-fd836d921...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] He invented the Web.
On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Gore made no claim about the Internet? Not the claim you probably think he did. But you can read, can't you? The link will make that clear to anyone who is able to read. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/480e5635-27af-4dc6-8502-17d9384d2...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] He invented the Web.
On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: He made exactly the claim that I think he did. Quite obviously I can read a I read it right about the time he made it. Still doesn't make what he claims correct. Hmmm... whom to believe? You, or Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who created the TCP/IP protocol and are generally considered the fathers of the internet? Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even small group of persons exclusively invented the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. So go ahead and continue to support the ridiculous notion that Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet. The facts speak for themselves. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9dc08d7b-29c8-429e-938c-c7da4b233...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Black Panther application would go through on rails?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:29 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: You know that the Kluxes were out of the Southern Democratic Party right? And yet for some reason, blacks are mostly linked (in favor of/to) the Democratic Party. Go figure. In the South, the Democrats were the primary racist party, as they still held a grudge against Lincoln, who was a Republican. Up until the 60s, southern blacks did not vote more for one party than the other (when they were allowed to vote at all). In the north, the Democrats were the party of the New Deal, voting rights, anti-segregation, etc., and northern blacks were overwhelmingly Democratic voters. Then along came the Southern Strategy, popularized in Nixon's campaign, which was designed to play upon racist fears following the Democrats' embracing of civil rights. This turned the white south solidly Republican, and the black south solidly Democratic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0cb2064d-9a74-4d30-b8ef-05ec93770...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Your OT Thought For The Day
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Re: [NF] Rackspace does chickens???
On Jun 8, 2012, at 2:47 PM, M Jarvis wrote: This caught my eye on my 'backyard chickens' google alert filter... I've kept chickens before and now have ducks... http://www.siliconhillsnews.com/2012/06/08/rackspace-celebrates-6th-annual-green-day/ Yes, there were chickens there. I didn't buy any of them ;-), but I did pick up an awesome bunch of freshly-picked swiss chard that was delicious. I'm psyched that their going to host a farmer's market here at the office every week. Now that's a company benefit I can really use! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/02c2cc7b-2708-44e2-a26a-54f374db2...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] ProFox List Statistics for May 2012
On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Is my name in the list twice because I use two different clients to send emails to the list? Or is it due to which email I responded to, profox vs profoxtech? The grouping is by the posting address. If I group by that address, I get these two for you: Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com So I'm guessing that your email clients are sending your address differently. Let me see if I can group by the address with quotes removed. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/b375ce7e-4fee-46d0-8f8a-967f39cf7...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] ProFox List Statistics for May 2012
On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Is my name in the list twice because I use two different clients to send emails to the list? Or is it due to which email I responded to, profox vs profoxtech? The grouping is by the posting address. If I group by that address, I get these two for you: Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com So I'm guessing that your email clients are sending your address differently. Let me see if I can group by the address with quotes removed. OK, I just updated the SQL to filter out the quotes before doing the group by. See the revised stats email. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/308a6623-7c3e-422b-9b4f-b00cd472d...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Dan Covill wrote: It does seem obvious that the Metro version is not seriously intended for use by desktop business applications. Combine that with the fact that their first release was a 'Developer Preview', and I conclude that the primary reason for Metro was to provide a development environment for portable devices. The central problem is that Microsoft is trying to create a touch-centric interface when the majority of devices out there don't support touch. Apple, in contrast, started pushing trackpads and touch mice a few years ago, and then started to move OS X to be more like the iOS. I'm running Lion, and have long ago ditched my mice for trackpads, and I find that I'm now much faster using gestures because I've had years to get used to the concept. The gestures that I use on my trackpad in OS X are the same that I use on my iOS devices; if I were using a mouse with a scroll wheel, it wouldn't be anywhere near as easy. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/58f81581-e23e-482f-8b80-2e8d02618...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] - Fox News Viwers are less informed than those who watch no TV...
On May 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Fox News responded by focusing on Fairleigh Dickinson's academic record Ah, the old ad hominem argument. Glad to see that they stay true to form! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/13293689-afbd-4683-b0a7-dcd2132be...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need my Profox Fix.......
On May 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Where is everybody, or do we have an outage? They're all busy buying Facebook stock? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/43507a65-5b75-47e8-b968-ed778cb7f...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need my Profox Fix.......
On May 18, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote: But, I TOO was surprised to see ALL of Thur go by - and NO Messages at all. However, I guess, considering your reply Ed - that there was no Actual Outtage - just an Extremely quiet day in the Land of ProFox. I saw no signs of any issues, but absence of evidence is not proof... Did anyone post anything yesterday that never appeared? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/dee81f82-9424-42c0-9111-2ea892b58...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Converting VFP App to New Tech.
On May 14, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote: This idea to convert the VFP app into another Tech - I am essentially doing it on my own. Things have gotten slow for me at work here recently - so, I have the time to work on something like this. But, I know that they will NOT go out and buy new SW to dev. with - so, that's another reason why I don't think RS is a good option for me here. You should decide what type of app you want to create using that other tech: a web app, a desktop app, or something that tries to be both. If you go the web app, there are tons of web frameworks out there. Ruby on Rails is probably the best known, with Django (Python) also pretty popular. PHP is another choice for the web, but seriously, I wouldn't go that route. While being very powerful, it's also very easy to create messy applications. The framework approach makes that less likely. If you're going the desktop app route, you know I'm going to recommend Dabo, which is one of the few desktop app frameworks in any open source language (we use Python). Truth is, most of the focus in the open source world is on the web, and desktop apps are treated like so much 90s nostalgia. That's why we focused on that niche. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2fb88a4e-1f90-413a-be52-7764e2516...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Dabo - Dysfunctional Screenshots on Wiki
On May 14, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote: I'm exporing the possible usage of Dabo. But, while in the Wiki - I went to the following webpage to look at screenshots of a system that was developed w/Dabo: http://wiki.dabodev.com/MembershipScreenshots However, all the links were broken. Anyone knows what's up with that? Ed - I'm hoping you might have some input on it... Looks like the images didn't get copied during my last server migration. I'll look around to see if I can find them somewhere in the backups. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9003e08f-371a-4764-bcbb-dd4f37546...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: testing 123
On May 11, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Richard Kaye wrote: I sent a message out to the list about 10 minutes ago and it hasn't shown up yet. Looking for clues... :) I looked through the logs, and don't see any post from your address at that time. Any chance you sent it to the wrong address? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e093093f-52d1-44ec-9cff-21cc16c77...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: NF: Which cloud?
On May 10, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: If figure I'll be in the 200gb range by the end of this year. If you use Jungle Disk (https://www.jungledisk.com), you're looking at about $30 - $35 per month in storage fees. If you use Rackspace Cloud Files directly, you'll save a couple of bucks a month, but will have to manually upload your files. Jungle Disk does the automation for you. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bf137f93-d1b3-4f76-9973-44a223802...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Started learning C# today
On May 9, 2012, at 3:08 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: If it's verbosity that is alarming, you could certainly write that C# in a much more terse way. But then again Python's a higher-level language. Terseness isn't a virtue; if it were, then we'd all be writing in Perl. It's the plethora of useless repetition, such as having to declare the get/set for every member. The fact that most developers don't actually write all that, but instead rely on a tool to generate it, shows that the language itself is not elegant. It also creates a reliance on the tool in order to code efficiently. Once you have been able to write powerful code with just a text editor, you find yourself with an aversion to tool dependency. It's like being able to run on your own, and then having to rely on a wheelchair to get around. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cc5fb296-50f5-46c2-b5b8-ba9259378...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Started learning C# today
On May 9, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
to the following, which is a lot neater:
public class Person
{
public string FirstName { get; set; }
public string LastName { get; set; }
}
Can't get much briefer that that can you.
class Person(object):
FirstName = LastName =
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Re: Started learning C# today
On May 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: I knew you couldn't resist that Ed... grin Of course not! ... I was meaning in C# though. Actually, in my haste the code I wrote would have created class attributes; i.e., shared by all instances of a class. Since they are probably supposed to be different for each instance, the correct code should be: class Person(object): def __init__(self): self.FirstName = self.LastName = -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/baef5a93-64b5-4d87-a70a-b07885655...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Started learning C# today
On May 9, 2012, at 9:21 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: I recently saw (both in our stuff here and in Ken Getz' video for this training) that they had all these get/set lines and I wondered why? (And I think Stephen posted such too, iirc) I vaguely recall learning that VB6 classes had to have _Get and _Set methods to their properties. Guess that continues the tradition. But that's exactly the sort of inelegance I mean. I'll wager that 99.9% of code created does nothing special with these getter/setter methods; they simply get/set the value unchanged. So in order to handle the few cases where code is needed, you are stuck with all this useless baggage. Contrast that with Python, where you have simple attributes with no special code needed to get/set. class Foo(object): def __init__(self): self.bar = f = Foo() f.bar = ed print f.bar - 'ed' Now let's say that you actually need to make 'bar' into a property with getter/setter methods. No problem; just change the class: class Foo(object): def __init__(self): self._bar = def _getBar(self): return self._bar def _setBar(self, val): self._bar = val.upper() bar = property(_getBar, _setBar) f = Foo() f.bar = ed print f.bar - 'ED' The point being that for the vast majority of object attributes, no such manipulation is needed, so the code is simple. When more complex behavior is needed, then and *only* then do you need to write more complex code. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/87f40ae0-89b6-422e-8e3c-cd84e3e3f...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Started learning C# today
On May 8, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote: Loved to read your code. Made me love Python even more. Ha! I was thinking the same thing. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/895ad183-1068-4414-8f7e-aa64197b5...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] The End is Near
On May 3, 2012, at 2:39 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Can you imagine how fast computing would be if we didn't have to have anti-virus and malware detection programs Try running Linux if you want to find out. ;-) (oh and encryption too)? Why would you lump encryption (a good and valuable thing) with anti-malware (wasteful, useless crap)? Without encryption, secure online transactions would not be possible. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/66cb88ba-91bc-4104-a4e8-0ef6a91d4...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Program the car/truck computer for safety (Allen)
On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Glen Ellis wrote: What does the [NF] stand for ? http://leafe.com/profox_faq -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e2896f56-2b4b-40e7-b3ad-f9d3b18df...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: NF Ruby over Python?
On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: So is one more drag dropish than another? Here what I want to do: Imagine a screen with any number of image controls, each showing an image (go figure). Now I'd like to drag one or more of those controls onto another screen. This can be faked in any way that makes it look like the control has been moved (copied is another option I'll need.) to another screen. ie It's ok if I have to instantiate another control on the new screen. I can't speak for the other UI toolkits, but wxPython (and hence Dabo) support this just fine. See this video of my session back at the 2007 US PyCon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8G8AefXDo8feature=relmfu I'm dragging from the filesystem to the image control in this example, but it would work just fine going from image to image. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/80032508-b2eb-4cd7-ac5c-794bd1ea3...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: NF Ruby over Python?
On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: So which of these langs have form, screen and image control libraries that are the most W7/VFP like? I'm in the middle of a large graphics display program (in VFP) that makes extensive use of Windows drag drop capabilities. None of them. All of them. Confused? That's because UI libraries are independent of the language used to write the app. Dabo uses the wxWidgets UI toolkit, which is conveniently wrapped with the wxPython module (http://wxpython.org/). There are also wrappings for Perl (http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/) and Ruby (http://wxruby.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl). We could have also chosen the Qt toolkit (http://qt.nokia.com/) along with either the PyQt or PySide wrappers; Ruby developers could use the QtRuby binding. Or maybe the GTK+ library (http://www.gtk.org/), with PyGTK (or Ruby Gtk for Ruby devs). -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1aab2aa0-772f-4fc4-8847-4072bebfe...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: NF Ruby over Python?
On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: If you just gave me three choices, I'd have to go for the last one: confused. Understood. The main thing that confuses people coming from the everything including the kitchen sink world of VFP when they enter the Linux world is that rather than create huge monolithic apps, developers create small components that are then used with other small components to create the final product. With VFP, or VB, or any Microsoft developer app, your choices are made for you ahead of time. That's one of the goals we set out to achieve with Dabo: figuring out what were the best components for the types of apps we used to create when we used VFP. We chose wxPython for the UI, ReportLab for the reporting tools, SQLite for the in-memory SQL manipulation, etc. Someone coming from the Microsoft world could just install Dabo and its dependencies, and be up and running in much less time than if you had to research all those choices and make a decision as to which ones to use. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e1e0c7c8-c573-4247-b7b4-00a054269...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: NF Ruby over Python?
On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: Just as a matter for curiosity, has anyone fooled around with RUBY as a second language? Can you offer any comments as to ease scope of use vs Python (for example)? Both Ruby and Python are great languages, and share many of the same advantages. The preference for one over the other largely depends on two things: your feeling towards terse vs. verbose code, and which one you learned first. People who know Ruby get annoyed by some of Python's differences, and vice-versa. So the real difference is the coding style differences, not personal preference. Ruby follows the Perl philosophy of several ways to do the same things, and preferring non-alpha syntax characters over more English-like syntax. Here is an example of a basic loop in Python: for i in range(5): print i ...and the same in Ruby: (0..5).each do |i| puts i end I can think of at least 3 other ways of writing the Ruby version - that's simply part of the overall Ruby philosophy. One of the things that I think is a horrible aspect of Ruby is the implicit return value: any statement returns the value of the last evaluated expression. When this happens in a method, and the method does not have an explicit 'return' statement, the method returns that last evaluated value. This can be used well in many cases, but in my experience, results in a lot of hard-to-detect bugs. Python, OTOH, has as one of its core principles explicit is better that implicit. If a method lacks a return statement, None (the Python null value) is returned. IMO, this makes much more sense. Another thing that annoys me about Ruby code is the lack of comments. Since the majority of influential Ruby developers are heavily into TDD, they feel that comments are worthless: if you want to know what some code is doing, you should read the corresponding test for that code. Do you need to handle an edge case? Then there should be a test for that edge case, and thus no need to add a comment to your pristine code. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ea83baea-8f4b-41f6-8911-657fffe09...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Chrome OS introduces Aura window manager
On Apr 13, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: Guys: giving each other shit since 64,297 B.C. -- a motto to live by. --- Because we can. Because we can't help ourselves. Men bond by insulting each other, but they don't really mean it. Women bond by complimenting each other, but they don't really mean it, either. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/66ebeb3a-24a1-4d16-800d-a1b6f156c...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Work is what you do, not where you go to do it.
On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/dem-operative-criticizes-ann-romney-ignites-storm-120291.html My mother taught me this at an early age: The phrase 'working mother' is redundant. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/83134547-7e09-4292-8a9f-59c51fab7...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [fw] Best and Worst Jobs of 2012: Most Stressful Careers
On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Man-wai Chang wrote: Best Jobs Software Engineer Interesting that the picture used is taken at Rackspace! http://www.cnbc.com/id/46994473/?slide=11 -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d7c3d109-825b-441e-9af0-726dcab44...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app
On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Supposed to is the key here. Have you ever tried writing to multiple browsers? IE6 was horrendous. 7 is only slightly better; 8 finally seems to be making progress. But even 8 is way behind the other choices. Here are the only 4 reasons to ever use IE: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/11/04/reasons-internet-explorer/ -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4057a9c0-5a9c-40f8-8ee1-66a75190d...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Re: [ADMIN] Site maintenance
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Re: Is there a problem with VFP 9.0 and FPW 2.6 accessing the same database?
On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Christof Wollenhaupt wrote: I don't think so... Lately I've been gotten a bit out of touch with Microsoft since most of my work involves dead Microsoft technologies like the .NET Compact Framework, Windows Mobile, Silverlight or FoxPro. ;) I'm not into necrophilia, so that's why I moved to Python. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2991088e-4413-4969-84f4-808c8fb22...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant
On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, John Harvey wrote: A new video shows officers escorting him into the police station in handcuffs. I believe he was about to undergo, As the Supremes like to say, custodial interrogation. Note the timestamp is less than an hour after he claimed that he had his head repeatedly smashed into the concrete and suffered repeated blows by his assailant. As an officer of the law, would you find any irregularities with that timeline? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3c2a2004-ee3e-4cb5-ae68-2b7e65bc8...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant
On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation and it seems knowingly of the ability to hide behind Florida's stand your ground law. I'm just wondering how stand your ground came to mean run after the person even after the police told you not to. He pursued the victim and initiated the confrontation. I don't see how stand your ground is even remotely relevant here. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5851c4a7-5376-4279-a675-e4c4905bb...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
