RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, Notice how you didn't dispute my facts. There would be no point. You have no facts. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Michael Madigan
] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 3:50 AM Madigan, Notice how you didn't dispute my facts. There would be no point. You have no facts. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, I can see you just want your choo choo train. Why do you care? You're not paying for it and won't be riding it. I, on the other hand, will not only pay for it but will ride it as well. I love visiting San Francisco, and the scenery along that ride up the coast is breathtaking in its

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Michael Madigan
] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 2:26 PM Madigan, I can see you just want your choo choo train. Why do you care? You're not paying for it and won't be riding it. I, on the other

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, Sure I'll be paying for it. Federal dollars will be used. That's a load of bull. As the richest state in the union, California gets back only 79% of every federal dollar it pays in taxes. We are paying for others, they aren't spending one thin dime on us. Kristyne McDaniel

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Michael Madigan
McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 2:45 PM Madigan, Sure I'll be paying for it. Federal dollars

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Larry Miller
/8/08, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 2:45 PM Madigan, Sure I'll be paying for it. Federal dollars will be used. That's a load of bull

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Larry, And as someone from the poverty stricken commonwealth of Virginia, I think you for your patriotic contribution. Your state's votes for Obama and a new democratic senator are thanks enough. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-08 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Madigan, I can see you just want your choo choo train. Why do you care? You're not paying for it and won't be riding it. I, on the other hand, will not only pay for it but will ride it as well. I love visiting San Francisco, and the scenery along that ride up

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote: It seems that the only people who make money are engineering firms that design and build it. From then on it's a big money loser. Then all the environmental studies, the lawsuits, the idiots chaining themselves to trees, and it won't get built anyway. Reminds me of the

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Jerry Wolper
Please don't go into the environmental whacko stuff about this 'investment' takes cars off the road. That is just a smoke screen. Why should we subsidize transportation for some? Should all roads be toll roads? Non-drivers shouldn't have to pay for your automobile use, especially if you're

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Jean MAURICE
Jerry Wolper a écrit : How much more of a mess would New York be without public transit? The voice of wisdom. I should have known that a trains thread would bring Jean back. It's good to hear from you again. -Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jerry ! The Foxil. -- Jean

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Madigan
approve Bullet Train development To: profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:31 AM Please don't go into the environmental whacko stuff about this 'investment' takes cars off the road. That is just a smoke screen. Why should we subsidize transportation for some? Should all

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Madigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:06 PM Yes I hear Jean pulls the train. * Barack Obama is not My President http

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Jean MAURICE
Michael Madigan a écrit : Oops I thought you were talking about Belgium Jean. I apologize to Jean Maurice No offense ! Jean of Belgium is a great foxer ... too ! It's a shame that he loves speedcars ;-) -- Jean MAURICE Grenoble - France - Europe www.atoutfox.org www.aedtf.org ---

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Jean MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan a écrit : Oops I thought you were talking about Belgium Jean. I apologize to Jean Maurice No offense ! Jean of Belgium is a great foxer ... too ! It's a shame that he loves speedcars ;-) Just let it

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Jean, Just let it be my old friend they'll never get the importance of a real railsystem, just let it be Some of us know that we abandoned our passenger rail system in favor of highways and airlines when we should not have done so. Rail travel is far and away the least expensive in terms

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Madigan
] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 4:38 PM Jean, Just let it be my old friend they'll never get the importance of a real railsystem, just let it be Some of us know that we

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Pete Theisen
Jean Laeremans wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Jean MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just let it be my old friend they'll never get the importance of a a real railsystem, just let it be Hi Jean! We outgrew rail. Our communities are now so large that we have to take a car to the

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: The problem is that many of the rail tracks are no longer there. Hi Michael! The trains can only go 5 mph here. The tracks cause the cars to sway from side to side, faster than 5 and they would get going so far as to tip over. That and run over the homeless sleeping on

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Cecil Champenois
Californians approve Bullet Train development Jean Laeremans wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Jean MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Just let it be my old friend they'll never get the importance of a a real railsystem, just let it be Hi Jean! We outgrew rail. Our communities are now so

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, The problem is that many of the rail tracks are no longer there. So we build new tracks. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Madigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:11 PM Madigan, The problem is that many of the rail tracks are no longer there. So

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, Your opinion is irrelevant on a Los Angeles topic. Fortunately for us, you don't live here. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Jerry Wolper wrote: Please don't go into the environmental whacko stuff about this 'investment' takes cars off the road. That is just a smoke screen. Why should we subsidize transportation for some? Should all roads be toll roads? Non-drivers shouldn't have to pay for your

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Madigan
Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 6:24 PM Madigan, Your opinion is irrelevant on a Los Angeles topic. Fortunately for us, you don't live here. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Jean MAURICE
I have missed something I guess : Arnold is a Rrepublican isn't he ? a famous example of the right wing ? and HE is an idiot By the way, you forgot to say something : the bullet train is based on a FRENCH technology ! The Foxil -- Jean MAURICE Grenoble - France - Europe www.atoutfox.org

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Cecil Champenois
Well, at least le français savoir faire des trains.  Cecil From: Jean MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:49:37 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development I have

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Miller
2008 03:11:30 + (UTC) Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development Californians do indeed use trains. I used them a lot until we moved to a location where the trains don't pass. I know a lot of people that use them every day to commute into Los Angeles. Kristyne McDaniel

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Miller
Arnold calls himself a Republican, but governs like a moderate D. So don't assign is actions to real Rs. Larry Miller - Original Message - From: Jean MAURICE To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:49:37 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 3:49 AM I have missed something I guess : Arnold is a Rrepublican isn't he ? a famous example of the right wing ? and HE is an idiot

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they were economically viable, why would it always take so much public (read non-riding taxpayers) investment. If they charged what the ride really cost, it's doubtful there would be nearly as many riders. So, why

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 10:57 AM On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Miller
To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:57:37 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Larry Miller wrote: If they were economically viable, why would it always take so much public (read non-riding taxpayers

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 12:07 PM Build the highways, let EVERYONE benefit from dollars spent. I understand the convenience of trains. I took them

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Paul Hill
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build the highways, let EVERYONE benefit from dollars spent. You seem to be forgetting something Larry, roads are built from taxpayers money also. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Jean MAURICE
merci Cécile ! Mais on n'est pas les seuls : SIEMENS en Allemagne, BOMBARDIER au Canada ... et les Japonais ! Cecil Champenois a écrit : Well, at least le français savoir faire des trains. Cecil The Foxil -- Jean MAURICE Grenoble - France - Europe www.atoutfox.org www.aedtf.org

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Jean MAURICE
in my humble opinion, MAGLEV has two geat drawbacks : first it can't go in center town without building new tracks. On the other side, running on standard railtracks allows HST to use the 'old stations' that are, at least in Europe, inside each town. second : points are very difficult to build

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 3:17 PM Please don't go into the environmental whacko stuff about this 'investment' takes cars off the road. That is just a smoke screen. Why

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jean MAURICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 3:28 PM in my humble opinion, MAGLEV has two geat drawbacks : first it can't go

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Miller
- From: Jean MAURICE To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:17:37 + (UTC) Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development Please don't go into the environmental whacko stuff about this 'investment' takes cars off the road. That is just a smoke screen. Why

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now tell us about all the other minor routes that run almost empty most of the time. Rubbish... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 4:25 PM On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Paul Hill wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build the highways, let EVERYONE benefit from dollars spent. You seem to be forgetting something Larry, roads are built from taxpayers money also. ROTFLMAO !!! He's forgetful these last years.

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Larry Miller
Californians approve Bullet Train development On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Larry Miller wrote: Now tell us about all the other minor routes that run almost empty most of the time. Rubbish... A+ jml --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Madigan
: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 5:43 PM So you use several high traffic routes to justify the whole system that is not used to this degree? I didn't think you had an answer. Larry Miller

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: When he doesn't know the answer, he just dismisses your idea. Hi Michael! That he does. The libs describe that habit differently, however. They call it open-mindedness or intellectual objectivity. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

[OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Nothing like spending billions on a money loser. will anybody use the trains? Trains all across the country lose money, but not this one, this one will be special. IDIOTS! http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081105/D94925900.html ___ Post

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Californians do indeed use trains. I used them a lot until we moved to a location where the trains don't pass. I know a lot of people that use them every day to commute into Los Angeles. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Californians do indeed use trains. I used them a lot until we moved to a location where the trains don't pass. I know a lot of people that use them every day to commute into Los Angeles. Hi Kristyne! But does it make money? This has always been the criticism. --

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:11 PM Californians do indeed use trains. I used them a lot until we moved to a location where the trains don't pass. I know a lot of people that use them every day to commute

Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, But they're all subsidized So what? You'd rather subsidize Exxon? Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:47 AM Madigan, But they're all subsidized So what? You'd rather subsidize Exxon? Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, I don't want to subsidize anyone. Other people are subsidizing you. Why, right now on ProFox you are accepting the generous subsidy of Ed Leafe. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can,

RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
] Subject: RE: [OT] Idiot Californians approve Bullet Train development To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:52 AM Madigan, I don't want to subsidize anyone. Other people are subsidizing you. Why, right now on ProFox you are accepting the generous