Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-09-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:00 PM, John wrote: Nah, we really are. I lied. We have meetings and talk about new tactics we can use to deprive people of their rights. . . . Yes, you do. These plans are coordinated by the FBI, and are the result of the domestic spying program:

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Madigan
The Muslims didn't create any violence, until they did. Yesterday anarchists broke windows and set fires. How did they get past this big bad dragnet? clean out these douchebags now before they hurt someone. Right Wing

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Ricardo Araoz
John wrote: Thanks, JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio Wakasugui Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:51 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US Wow. You do sound like our own

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Jean Laeremans
hmmm the Nazis had warrants too A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive:

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread John
Guess what, we aren't Nazis. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:01 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US hmmm the Nazis had warrants too

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:35 AM, John wrote: Guess what, we aren't Nazis. Nope; you just enjoy acting like them. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread John
Yada, yada, yada JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:44 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:35 AM, John wrote: Guess

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Ricardo Araoz
John wrote: Guess what, we aren't Nazis. Really?... JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:01 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread John
Nah, we really are. I lied. We have meetings and talk about new tactics we can use to deprive people of their rights. . . . JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:55 PM To: ProFox Email List

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Ricardo Araoz
John wrote: Nah, we really are. I lied. We have meetings and talk about new tactics we can use to deprive people of their rights. . . . Mmmmhh... yeah, I suspected so. After all you used to do that in the south against the blacks. Why not upgrade it to Dems? JH -Original

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Helio Wakasugui
John is religious... http://www.alternet.org/story/96945/theocratic_sect_prays_for_real_armageddon/ On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess what, we aren't Nazis. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Great logic. It's a wonder your programs work at all. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Blah Blah Blah Police are Nazis Blah Blah Blah How predictable. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Now you're comparing Martin Luther King to Anarchists. What a great guy you are. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish

[OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Ed Leafe
You thought the police in Denver were scary; well, it's even worse in Minnesota. http://twurl.nl/skhnbj -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
This is so scary...hahahaha Surely, you don't think the po-lice would do anything wrong? JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:48 PM To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [OT] More on the rising

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Pete Theisen
John wrote: This is so scary...hahahaha Surely, you don't think the po-lice would do anything wrong? Hi John! I think it was fabricated. Wouldn't there be a public record of this on the police blotter? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:08 PM, John wrote: This is so scary...hahahaha Pre-emptive raids? Being arrested for planning a peaceful protest. Damn right it's scary. Surely, you don't think the po-lice would do anything wrong? They did this past week in Denver, and are doing

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Sure, the anarchists are always peaceful. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
Having raided a few houses myself. We NEVER did so against people where we didn't have a reason. You are drinking the koolaid, after only hearing one side. I assume the Denver PD and the Minnesota cops both operate under the same guidelines we have used for years, which have evolved through

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
I'll bet a years salary, they had cause for doing the entry. It's way too late in the game to think they just decided to storm troop these losers, especially in such a high profile situation. Some people just love to stir the waters. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Can you imagine dedicating your life to anarchy? What a bunch of losers! LOL Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:35 PM, John wrote: I'm not concerned that they went in and disrupted this bunch of miscreants. I'm concerned that someone who is supposed to know the laws he is enforcing assumes that someone is a 'miscreant' based solely on appearance. -- Ed Leafe

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Yeah, they probably raided the place based only on looks. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Pete Theisen
John wrote: I'll bet a years salary, they had cause for doing the entry. It's way too late in the game to think they just decided to storm troop these losers, especially in such a high profile situation. Some people just love to stir the waters. I think it was fabricated. Wouldn't there be

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
After 30 years, I can read people like an open picture book, and something tells me you can even ferret out these folks. These are miscreants. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:00 PM To: ProFox

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 30, 2008, at 8:30 PM, John wrote: After 30 years, I can read people like an open picture book, and something tells me you can even ferret out these folks. These are miscreants. Wow, that's fantastic! So I guess we can just chuck that rickety ol' Constitution, huh? We can

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Ed, I lived in Minnesota for the first 27 years of my life. These raids don't sound like the Minnesota I remember at all. I look forward to these cases making their way to the Supreme Court. I just hope that once they arrive there the court won't be even more stacked against unwarranted searches.

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
Tell me you don't really think they raided this house sans warrant! You know a little about police tactics, and that wouldn't be one of them. This is BS from the libbers, whining about how they were mistreated. Let's wait and see what's what. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
Nah, you've got to be a cop for a while first. We are omniscient, you know!G JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:43 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Helio Wakasugui
Wow. You do sound like our own military police, here in third-world Brazil. HW On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:30 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After 30 years, I can read people like an open picture book, and something tells me you can even ferret out these folks. These are miscreants. JH

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
Thanks, JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio Wakasugui Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:51 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US Wow. You do sound like our own military police, here in

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 30, 2008, at 8:49 PM, John wrote: Tell me you don't really think they raided this house sans warrant! They had a warrant. Nobody stated otherwise; if you read the article you'd know that that was expressly stated. The problem is that the grounds for the warrant, as far as

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 30, 2008, at 8:49 PM, John wrote: Tell me you don't really think they raided this house sans warrant! They had a warrant. Nobody stated otherwise; if you read the article you'd know that that was expressly stated. The problem is that the grounds for the

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, Tell me you don't really think they raided this house sans warrant! You know a little about police tactics, and that wouldn't be one of them. This is BS I don't know. If you take the article at face value and assume there were no warrants, there's a problem with what they did. If you

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
Oh, so now you're an expert on police matters? A judge signed the warrant, and this is in a liberal stronghold, so I would assume the judge is probably liberal. Either way, the judge would not sign the warrant if he/she didn't think there was probable cause. Remember, this is up in yankee land,

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
\\This isn't the last we are going to hear about these raids. Especially, from the left. JH ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

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2008-08-30 Thread Michael Madigan
He's an expert in everything, silly. Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had married OJ

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Why can't these people just commit mass suicide and make a statement? LOL Right Wing Mike http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Bigfoot Hates Obama http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/5690856 I Wish Hillary had

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Helio Wakasugui
Did you watch the videos? They don't look like dangerous terrorists to me. LOL HW On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:46 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \\This isn't the last we are going to hear about these raids. Especially, from the left. JH [excessive quoting removed by server]

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Pete Theisen
Helio Wakasugui wrote: Did you watch the videos? They don't look like dangerous terrorists to me. LOL Hi Helio! They looked like a bunch of kids trying to create a work of fiction. I liked it how the guy with the camera kept it on the girl's body, sometimes taking her face out of the

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, Oh, so now you're an expert on police matters? I'm no expert. However, the law on which the warrants were based is going to be challenged. Count on it. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you

Re: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread Helio Wakasugui
http://blutube.policeone.com/Clip.aspx?key=0FD1BC69F8CB5380 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:54 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, JH -- Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. - Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---

RE: [OT] More on the rising Police State in the US

2008-08-30 Thread John
They looked like a bunch of kids trying to create a work of fiction. I liked it how the guy with the camera kept it on the girl's body, sometimes taking her face out of the picture, even when someone else was talking. Real class. You noticed that too! JH