Re: [libreoffice-projects] On the communication channels we use

2017-08-01 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 31.07.2017 23:58, Toki wrote:

On 07/31/2017 12:25 PM, ilmari.lauhakangas wrote:

the closed-source chat platform Telegram becomes an official channel 
for team coordination.


Source code is at https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop

Where it states «The source code is published under GPLv3 with OpenSSL
exception, the license is available here.»
The "here" links to
https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/blob/dev/LICENSE, which
contains the text of the GNU GPL 3.0

As such, I don't understand how it can be accused of being "closed 
source".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(messaging_service)

"Its client-side code is open-source software but contains binary blobs, 
and the source code for recent versions is not always immediately 
published, whereas its server-side code is closed-source and 
proprietary."


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] On the communication channels we use

2017-08-01 Thread Xisco Fauli
Hello,

I just want to make clear that the decision of creating the Telegram
group for QA was discussed in the QA meeting on 2017-04-25 [1]

Besides, both channels are bridged now, which IMHO, allow everyone to
choose what fits her/him better.

Regards


[1]
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-QA-Meeting-Minutes-2017-04-25-tc4213251.html


El 01/08/17 a les 10:46, Sophie ha escrit:
> Hi Jonathon, Ilmari, all,
>
> Le 31/07/2017 à 22:58, Toki a écrit :
>> On 07/31/2017 12:25 PM, ilmari.lauhakangas wrote:
>>
>>> the closed-source chat platform Telegram becomes an official channel for 
>>> team coordination.
>> Source code is at https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop
>>
>> Where it states «The source code is published under GPLv3 with OpenSSL
>> exception, the license is available here.»
>> The "here" links to
>> https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/blob/dev/LICENSE, which
>> contains the text of the GNU GPL 3.0
>>
>> As such, I don't understand how it can be accused of being "closed source".
> Yes, you're right. However, the most important thing Ilmari is pointing
> is about the decision process that shouldn't be on IRC or Telegram or
> any other media but on mailing lists.
> I like that the community is able to use the tool it prefers to
> communicate, that opens the possibilities and makes our projects more
> reachable. ESC is not only using hangout, but also phones on Talkyoo,
> one language is leading its translation on Facebook, etc... whatever
> they are at ease with and brings people together.
> What we should be very careful with is to report on the lists, make the
> decision process available on the lists and keep an archive of the
> activities on the lists. That way each new comer has access to the
> information at the same level others have and there is a memory of what
> has been done.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>

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IRC: x1sc0



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[libreoffice-projects] Splitting off logerrit on its own

2017-08-01 Thread Jean Spiteri
I am writing this email to propose splitting off the logerrit bash file from
the core code of the LibreOffice product.

To be sure I'm explaining well, logerrit is a bash script that can be used
to aid the process of submitting patches to Gerrit and also reviewing them. 

As one can see by visiting the Projects List on Gerrit, Gerrit is not used
only to develop LibreOffice only. It is also used for a number of other
projects which although smaller, might still have people interested in
participating to their development. 

However, at this time, as far as I know, the only way to get the logerrit
script is by taking it from the core repo. My very limited knowledge does
not show me a way how I can take that code from the repo without cloning the
core repo, apart from copy-pasting. 

My proposal is that this script is taken out of the repo and put in a repo
by itself. At the same time, I propose that the specific parts relating to
the core repo (URLs for example) be changed to a sort of settings which can
be set by the user (or automatically) depending on the repo the user is
working on. Of course, after splitting, the code should still be publicised
in a way to be visible to the biggest number of people but I think that can
be done by updating the Wiki and the other instructions. 

Even if I don't use it, I learnt how to submit the Gerrit patches by reading
that script when I got stuck. Again, those interested in participating will
be more knowledgeable than me but still I think my proposal lowers the
barrier of entry which could be caused by lack of knowledge and experience.
Even if one knows perfectly how to work without logerrit, it still can be
convenient to use. 

Thank you for reading and sorry if I missed something. 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Positive social media feedback from LO 5.4 launch

2017-08-01 Thread Heiko Tietze
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/libreoffice-5-4-the-best-office-suite-gets-better/


On 31.07.2017 14:57, Mike Saunders wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Thanks for all your work with the LibreOffice 5.4 release! I was closely
> monitoring social media on release day, and just wanted to share some of
> the positive messages that came up...
> 
> 
> "Thank you very much for your dedication and fantastic work!"
> 
> "I love this software! It is exclusive because of LibreOffice that I
> never have to worry about losing access to my library of
> notes/references due to 'updates'. That's been a tearful experience for
> me in the past, and I cannot fully express my gratitude to LibreOffice."
> 
> "Some nice improvements. Thanks."
> 
> "Been using LibreOffice and it's former incarnations for most of my life
> now as 100% compatibility with others isn't really necessary for us and
> for one way things/office store printouts, PDF's do fine. For those rare
> times that someone may have to edit the files, we provide a free
> installer copy of LibreOffice along with the file, they can delete it
> later if they wish, but often keep it in case they need it again. I very
> highly suggest folks donate even a small sum for this wonderful project
> from time to time, it's far better than having to pay hundreds or even
> thousands of dollars for commercial software."
> 
> "Thanks for great software!"
> 
> "I have spent the last 3 days writing a 200 page engineering spec
> document on libreoffice. It's the first time I've done anything with LO
> on this scale. Its a little weird in places but over all I'm really
> enjoying the work flow and small things like cursor placement under
> certain activities is great."
> 
> "I love how LibreOffice bests Microsoft Office in almost everything."
> 
> "Great job, thank you, it's really wonderful."
> 
> "Latest updates look really good and there is some great practical
> features that will immediately get used by me. LibreOffice just keeps on
> getting better."
> 
> "Well done, folks! Thank you so much"
> 
> "Awesome to see how different people from many countries and cultures
> work together to improve the software. Thanks again."
> 
> "My favorite office suite, you guys are doing a great job ;)"
> 
> "Thank you for this great program. I love it."
> 
> 

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