Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board -- STATUS

2010-12-16 Thread Francesco Furfari


  
  
Welcome on board Sergio and Laura

BRs
Francesco


Il 16/12/2010 9.44, *GUILLEN BARRIONUEVO, SERGIO GUSTAVO ha scritto:

  
  
  
  
  
Dear all

I would like to express
my interest to be member of the governing board of AALOA
representing ITACA Institute, the largest private research
centre in AAL, medical technologies, e-health and assistive
technologies in Spain.

I would like to nominate
Larua Beleguer as deputy


Sorry for the late
response 

BR

Sergio Guilln

Sergio Guillen
Director - CEO



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46022 Valencia

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Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

2010-11-15 Thread Hanke Sten
Hi all,

Sorry for the late response but I would like to volunteer for the governing 
board of AALOA representing the Austria's biggest non-profit research center 
Austrian Institute of Technology GmbH -AIT.

Kind regards,
Sten Hanke


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Von: promoters-boun...@aaloa.org [mailto:promoters-boun...@aaloa.org] Im 
Auftrag von Francesco Furfari
Gesendet: Montag, 13. September 2010 08:36
An: promoters@aaloa.org
Betreff: Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

Good morning,

waiting for other people to express their opinion,  let me do two examples on 
the activities of such exec committee.
 - project proposals:
the committee should approve project proposals. CNR, Fh-IGD, Itaca-UPVand 
Sintef  will provide the needed resources, but we need the opinion of a larger 
committee. So even individuals can participate, in this case  the only resource 
they will spend is their time to evaluate the proposal (e.g one page abstract)

- agreement with other organizations:
Few days ago thanks to Reiner we have received the Support of Ami'10 
organization (http://www.ami-10.org/) (we are linked) . Any contact and 
agreement with other organizations should be discussed and proposed to members 
of such committee.
We have many contacts in view e.g. Open URC, OHT, Continua, EFMI  and so on.

Last I would like to present the committee to the AAL Forum next week. (15/9)

Summarizing we are:
Saied + Reiner (Fh-IGD)
Joe + Bruno (Sintef)
Antonio + Bruno (Trialog)

What about the others?
Sergio, Juan  Pablo, Francois, Marco, Sten,Thomas, Gunnar, ...  ?  the roll 
call is long :-)  and I know some  people is travelling to Odense.

Francesco








Mohammad-Reza Tazari wrote:
I think that the supporters and promoters mailing lists along with the 
temporary governing board provide us altogether even with three level of 
commitment for the incubation phase, which I find fine. In this phase, a 
coherent set of by-laws and governing rules must be defined according to which 
the legal entity to be established will work. How it will be in those by-laws, 
is IMO still under discussion.

Regards,

-- Saied

Francesco Furfari wrote on 10-Sep-10 09:21:

  Thank you François.

As in the Manifesto we suggest to organize the association with two
boards, I would clarify soon one aspect of this phase.

IMO any organization we decide now, it is only to steer this community
towards the incorporation of an association according the legal
framework of some European state. In the end the bodies foreseen for the
real association could be very different.

That said, I agree with François, we need two level of commitments. But
I think we already have the first council or college, it is the
promoters list (more or less 25 people). The people who decided to join
this list is motivated to discuss of the organization of AALOA, but
because it will be often tedious and only sometimes exciting, I don't
expect to receive a contribute every time from all those we are. But a
minimal level of cohesion already exists, that's this mailing list was
created right to differentiate this group from the supporters group.
Nevertheless always volunteers we are.

Now because the option of François (that's co-optation of two bodies) is
an alternative, I would like to know what do you think.

1) Do you see a vantage in nominating a council of volunteers and and
executive committee ? e.g. a smaller group of people ..

2) Can we consider the promoters list the council and proceed only with
the nomination of the executive committee?


Francesco



Il 07/09/2010 14.49, Francois Letellier ha scritto:

Dear all,

surely we don't want to overengineer the governance of the curently
incepted AALOA.

Still I sugest a very lightweight organization with two organs:
- a council (or call it college, or advisory board...) of people who
volunteer

Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

2010-09-27 Thread Thomas Karopka

Hi everybody,

I would like to volunteer for the temporary governing board representing 
IT Science Center Rügen, a non-profit company in Germany, as well as the 
European Federation for Medical Informatics Libre/Free Open Source 
Working Group (EFMI LIFOSS WG) and the International Medical Informatics 
Association Open Source Working Group (IMIA OS WG).


regards,
Thomas



Am 06.09.2010 09:42, schrieb Francesco Furfari:

 Hello to everybody,

an important issue we discussed in Lisbon was about the appointment of 
a temporary governing board.
I hope all of you are now returned and relaxed from their summer 
vacation to proceed with the board nomination.
I would like to report in the slides presenting AALOA initiative at 
AAL Forum the names of the people composing the temporary governing 
board.


I have not got a specific procedure in mind. Maybe we could consider 
to include not more than 2 people from the same organization.

Then we should only propose our candidature.

WDYT? any other hint?
francesco


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Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

2010-09-09 Thread Antonio kung

 Francesco,


I will volunteer for Trialog with Bruno Jean-Bart as a deputy.

Long live AALOA

Antonio

On 07/09/2010 11:39, Francesco Furfari wrote:

 sure volunteers.

Let me also add that sometime the lazy consensus used by Apache 
community works very fine.
When a new member is invited to join to a software project, at least 3 
favourable votes should be collect to accept the new member.
It helps the board by avoiding a boring counting of the people. Of 
course if there is one negative vote it works as a veto. So people 
start to discuss until a consensus is reached, that's veto is cancelled.
This rule cannot be used for example for modification of a by-laws, 
but it works as facilitate asynchronous communication.
I would avoid  to use one more doodle poll every time we need to take 
a decision that should be fast ... especially now that we are growing.


In Apache there is a distinction among binding votes  and non binding 
votes. In this case people of the board have binding votes, but 
non-binding votes are important as well, they represent the community 
involved in the project activities. They are however taken into 
account, and opinion expressed by a of non-binding vote is always 
commented and discussed.


With respect the shaping of AALOA, I think we will discuss all the 
issues related to statute, by-laws organization in working groups here 
with the promoters mailing list, and any final decision will be 
communicated to the supporters list for getting their comments.  The 
governing board for the moment has very few things to decide :-) so it 
is only an official way to represent AALOA to the external world and 
to allocate resources to people who want open a project within AALOA 
community.



Said that, I agree to have one person for organization and CNR in this 
case does not request an exception (thanks Saied)


So please volunteers wanted :-)

francesco




Il 07/09/2010 8.19, Joe Gorman ha scritto:
I had been just about to write a message saying that I think we 
should have just one representative from any one organisation 
(otherwise it can look unfair, especially for anything needing a 
vote).  I had also been going to say that each official 
representative should have a recognised deputy, to attend meetings 
etc. when the main representative is unavailable.  But I don't need 
to say that now, as Saied already suggested it!


The only other thing I would add is that the governing board should 
be made up only of volunteers.  So: the fact that an organisation 
is listed as a promoter  should not mean that we automatically insist 
on that organisation being represented on the board.  They would be 
allowed, but not required.  So we should ask for people who actively 
volunteer for this role e.g. by responding to a request from you, 
Francesco.


For SINTEF, I volunteer to be the representative, with Marius as my 
alternate.


.   Joe



On 6/09/2010 14:15 , Mohammad-Reza 
Tazarisaied.taz...@igd.fraunhofer.de  wrote:


Oh, sorry Francesco, my mistake (to have forgotten the initial email,
now attached)! This is why I simply referred to the web site...

Looking at the member list in the attached email + Ricardo Serafin @ TSB
+ Juan Carlos Naranjo Martinez  Laura Belenguer Querol @ ITACA + Marco
Eichelberg @ OFFIS, there are 27 people from 13 orgs.

I would suggest to have only one representative from each organization,
MAYBE just with exception for CNR-ISTI, in order to have a size that
reaches more easily a majority (assuming 2/3) when meeting and telcos
are organized. This way, the upper-limit for the size of the board will
be 14, depending on if all orgs do want to be present in the board. The
following numbers should help to have an imagination of what it means
for our meetings and telcos:

sizemin. # of members necessary for meetings

 10  7
 11-12   8
 13  9
 14  10

But, I suggest that each official board member from each org can
nominate just a second person as possible proxy to increase the chance
that all orgs are presented when meetings and telcos are organized.

Regards,

-- Saied

Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 13:14:

Dear Said,

yes, but personally I would not limit the size of governing board, 
being

temporary, to 10 people.
The four organizations cited in the website are willing to spend some
resources for incubating AALOA, but we haven't to limit the
participation to them.

In general in this mailing list we have individuals that don't 
represent

formally organizations, I'm thinking to Francois Letellier or to Thomas
Karopka to name a few. But I think their point of views can enrich the
governing board to take the right decisions.

Furthermore, I think that people belonging to the governing board will
have binding vote, but I would get the opinion of all the AALOA
subscribers.

francesco


Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

2010-09-07 Thread Francesco Furfari

 sure volunteers.

Let me also add that sometime the lazy consensus used by Apache 
community works very fine.
When a new member is invited to join to a software project, at least 3 
favourable votes should be collect to accept the new member.
It helps the board by avoiding a boring counting of the people. Of 
course if there is one negative vote it works as a veto. So people start 
to discuss until a consensus is reached, that's veto is cancelled.
This rule cannot be used for example for modification of a by-laws, but 
it works as facilitate asynchronous communication.
I would avoid  to use one more doodle poll every time we need to take a 
decision that should be fast ... especially now that we are growing.


In Apache there is a distinction among binding votes  and non binding 
votes. In this case people of the board have binding votes, but 
non-binding votes are important as well, they represent the community 
involved in the project activities. They are however taken into account, 
and opinion expressed by a of non-binding vote is always commented and 
discussed.


With respect the shaping of AALOA, I think we will discuss all the 
issues related to statute, by-laws organization in working groups here 
with the promoters mailing list, and any final decision will be 
communicated to the supporters list for getting their comments.  The 
governing board for the moment has very few things to decide :-) so it 
is only an official way to represent AALOA to the external world and to 
allocate resources to people who want open a project within AALOA community.



Said that, I agree to have one person for organization and CNR in this 
case does not request an exception (thanks Saied)


So please volunteers wanted :-)

francesco




Il 07/09/2010 8.19, Joe Gorman ha scritto:

I had been just about to write a message saying that I think we should have just one 
representative from any one organisation (otherwise it can look unfair, especially for 
anything needing a vote).  I had also been going to say that each official representative 
should have a recognised deputy, to attend meetings etc. when the main 
representative is unavailable.  But I don't need to say that now, as Saied already 
suggested it!

The only other thing I would add is that the governing board should be made up only of 
volunteers.  So: the fact that an organisation is listed as a promoter  
should not mean that we automatically insist on that organisation being represented on 
the board.  They would be allowed, but not required.  So we should ask for people who 
actively volunteer for this role e.g. by responding to a request from you, Francesco.

For SINTEF, I volunteer to be the representative, with Marius as my alternate.

.   Joe



On 6/09/2010 14:15 , Mohammad-Reza Tazarisaied.taz...@igd.fraunhofer.de  
wrote:

Oh, sorry Francesco, my mistake (to have forgotten the initial email,
now attached)! This is why I simply referred to the web site...

Looking at the member list in the attached email + Ricardo Serafin @ TSB
+ Juan Carlos Naranjo Martinez  Laura Belenguer Querol @ ITACA + Marco
Eichelberg @ OFFIS, there are 27 people from 13 orgs.

I would suggest to have only one representative from each organization,
MAYBE just with exception for CNR-ISTI, in order to have a size that
reaches more easily a majority (assuming 2/3) when meeting and telcos
are organized. This way, the upper-limit for the size of the board will
be 14, depending on if all orgs do want to be present in the board. The
following numbers should help to have an imagination of what it means
for our meetings and telcos:

sizemin. # of members necessary for meetings

 10  7
 11-12   8
 13  9
 14  10

But, I suggest that each official board member from each org can
nominate just a second person as possible proxy to increase the chance
that all orgs are presented when meetings and telcos are organized.

Regards,

-- Saied

Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 13:14:

Dear Said,

yes, but personally I would not limit the size of governing board, being
temporary, to 10 people.
The four organizations cited in the website are willing to spend some
resources for incubating AALOA, but we haven't to limit the
participation to them.

In general in this mailing list we have individuals that don't represent
formally organizations, I'm thinking to Francois Letellier or to Thomas
Karopka to name a few. But I think their point of views can enrich the
governing board to take the right decisions.

Furthermore, I think that people belonging to the governing board will
have binding vote, but I would get the opinion of all the AALOA
subscribers.

francesco



Il 06/09/2010 11.35, Mohammad-Reza Tazari ha scritto:

Hi everybody,

from Fh-IGD, Reiner  me would like to join the temporary governing
board.

Just to make 

Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

2010-09-06 Thread Cesar Iglesias
Dear all,
I hope you have had a very nice summer.
Just a quick note to remind you that I am available to provide support to the 
governing board on any legal or organizational issues.
This support would be personal as the policy of my firm does not provide for 
participation in this kind of bodies.
Kind regards.

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cigles...@dbtlex.com
www.dbtlex.com

Torre Picasso, Planta 35
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Enviado el: lunes, 06 de septiembre de 2010 14:16
Para: Francesco Furfari
CC: promoters@aaloa.org
Asunto: Re: [aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

Oh, sorry Francesco, my mistake (to have forgotten the initial email, now 
attached)! This is why I simply referred to the web site...

Looking at the member list in the attached email + Ricardo Serafin @ TSB
+ Juan Carlos Naranjo Martinez  Laura Belenguer Querol @ ITACA + Marco
Eichelberg @ OFFIS, there are 27 people from 13 orgs.

I would suggest to have only one representative from each organization, MAYBE 
just with exception for CNR-ISTI, in order to have a size that reaches more 
easily a majority (assuming 2/3) when meeting and telcos are organized. This 
way, the upper-limit for the size of the board will be 14, depending on if all 
orgs do want to be present in the board. The following numbers should help to 
have an imagination of what it means for our meetings and telcos:

   sizemin. # of members necessary for meetings
   
10  7
11-12   8
13  9
14  10

But, I suggest that each official board member from each org can nominate just 
a second person as possible proxy to increase the chance that all orgs are 
presented when meetings and telcos are organized.

Regards,

-- Saied

Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 13:14:
 Dear Said,

 yes, but personally I would not limit the size of governing board,
 being temporary, to 10 people.
 The four organizations cited in the website are willing to spend some
 resources for incubating AALOA, but we haven't to limit the
 participation to them.

 In general in this mailing list we have individuals that don't
 represent formally organizations, I'm thinking to Francois Letellier
 or to Thomas Karopka to name a few. But I think their point of views
 can enrich the governing board to take the right decisions.

 Furthermore, I think that people belonging to the governing board will
 have binding vote, but I would get the opinion of all the AALOA
 subscribers.

 francesco



 Il 06/09/2010 11.35, Mohammad-Reza Tazari ha scritto:
 Hi everybody,

 from Fh-IGD, Reiner  me would like to join the temporary governing
 board.

 Just to make sure: taking the list under
 http://www.aaloa.org/team/role_of_promoters (CNR-ISTI, Fh-IGD, ITACA,
 and SINTEF) and the newest announcement that Marco Eichelberg from
 OFFIS has also joined this list (welcome on board, Marco!), with the
 suggestion by Francesco, there will be at most 10 people as members
 of the temporary governing board. Is that right?

 Regards,

 -- Saied

 Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 09:42:
 Hello to everybody,

 an important issue we discussed in Lisbon was about the appointment
 of a temporary governing board.
 I hope all of you are now returned and relaxed from their summer
 vacation to proceed with the board nomination.
 I would like to report in the slides presenting AALOA initiative at
 AAL Forum the names of the people composing the temporary governing board.

 I have not got a specific procedure in mind. Maybe we could consider
 to include not more than 2 people from the same organization.
 Then we should only propose our candidature.

 WDYT? any other hint?
 francesco


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