For Christs sake Jami get off his back!
He does not clutter up the list, he provides much needed helpful advice and
support.
You are the only twit cluttering up this list lately.
!plonk! -- the sound of JaMi being added to my email kill filter file.
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From: JaMi Smith
Seconded,
Darren Moore
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From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2002 19:21
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . hopefully,
the final re sponse . . .
For Christs sake Jami get off his back!
He
I think we are all having too much fun with this topic... hehe...
Brian Guralnick
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Yes and No.
Yes I designed the board and No the Vias are not free pads.
There is no holes in the solder paste layers on the origional protel
drawing, only on the gerber import.
The gerber import is just photoplot commands, therefore if there is a shape
there then there will be a hole.
J.
Entirely probable..
We sent the gerbers anyway. And then tried a different gerber viewer this
morning.
PANIC OVER, call off the dogs.
Leon was right. Protels' importer saw the vias as through
hole pads, so placed a free pad at its location on multi layer.
The free pads have a paste mask
JaMi,
Abd. has provided me with very much appreciated help - Sometimes he's been
the only person to respond to my query. Certainly his answers have always
been spot-on. He has saved me much time, and his help has always been freely
given. If you don't want to read his posts, then don't read
All sorted. Admin priveliges were set.
It seems the designer in question turned on the autoplacer, and then didn't
realise it had to be turned off.
Once it was turned off, the components stopped wandering about.
As for the libraries that would not load, that was because the network
drive he
JaMi (however that is pronounced),
I have been deleting the messages in this thread as they come in, but it
just won't stop! This banter is precisely the clutter you were
complaining about. I agree that Mr. Lomax can be long winded, but I can
usually gleen something of value from his posts.
Ja Mi
CAD jockey or not , Mr Lomax has been of great help to me both on this
forum and off the forum. I don't read all of his postings because I simply
don't have the time but I think the consensus is we will keep him. Do what
I do, delete email you don't want to read then it wont irritate
Jason,
if you haven't caught on to your problem yet, I think that one of
the other posters hit the nail on the head. There may be nothing wrong with
your original Gerber files, the problem may have arose when you imported
them back into Protel.
Importing Gerber back into Protel is
I just finished a big session of updating all the part info using the
spreadsheet export, which is too powerful to live without, now that I know
it's there. I've managed to find ways to work around most of its limitations,
but I've encountered one fairly serious problem that has my database in
We have a related problem. BoMs loaded into Excel always strip leading zeroes.
I'm afraid we cheat, and don't have 0402, 0603 0805 etc. as footprints, but
instead append the name of our company e.g. ART_0805. Our libraries match with
this.
AAMOI - I think sticking with 0805, 0603, 0402 for
JaMi,
No, I don't have to be reading this thread, but I have, and as such, I find
it offensive that someone who sounds very disgruntled, has chosen this list
to vent in.
Mr lomax has been of enourmous benefit to me as an engineer who must
occasionally do a layout using PROTEL. Both from a
Today must be my day for Protel wierdness. After a marathon session of
editing BOM info via spreadsheet, I'm not sure it's worth the bother. Takes
almost as long to clean up after it as it would to just do all the edits
directly in PCB. Fundamentally, this should not be an export operation,
On 03:31 PM 19/02/2002 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said:
As a reminder for Mr. Wilson, preparing a bug list:
The display of multilayer objects is seriously flawed. Protel displays
multilayer objects only if multilayer is enabled. Vias are multilayer
objects as currently configured, but vias do
On 04:58 PM 19/02/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Today must be my day for Protel wierdness. After a marathon session of
editing BOM info via spreadsheet, I'm not sure it's worth the bother. Takes
almost as long to clean up after it as it would to just do all the edits
directly in PCB.
Steve,
been there done that, just a matter of days ago myself. Never have
found the solution for absolute certainty, largely I just ignore it. One
thing to check for in the PCB database is a duplicate net. I have quite
often found a duplicate net when I have this problem. During
Jason,
I did not follow this one from the very beginning but,
I would also 100% agree that bringing a gerber file back into your
CAD system for any reason other than to use it to reproduce
a board you have no CAD data for, or copy sections into an
existing board etc. is not good. I would NOT
This is a question I am posing on behalf of a workplace colleague.
Does anyone have a working schematic capture example for the Xilinx- CPLD
9536VQ44 producing .jed file? (Either for Protel 99 SE or Protel 98.)
Regards,
Geoff Harland.
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G'Day all,
I was having an email discussion the recently...
We use the term printed circuit board (or PCB) to describe the bare board
(no components fitted) and the term printed wiring assembly (PWA) for the
assembly (PCB + components). Some of the younger colleagues around here
are
fab = bare board
pca = built board
pcb = not specific to either of above
board = ditto
pwb = a dweeb term for fab, never used by cool guys
pwa i never saw/heard that one
Dennis Saputelli
Ian Wilson wrote:
G'Day all,
I was having an email discussion the recently...
We use the term
My $0.02c is that any acronym that ends in B for board relates to the
basic entity to which components are assembled.
Any acronym ending in A for assembly relates to the board plus components.
So I don't care whether you call it a PCB or PWB - it's a bare board.
A PWA or PCA is the output from
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From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] What does printed circuit board mean to you?
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How do others interpret the following terms?
PCB (printed circuit board)
Hello Ian,
Generally, from IPC-T-50, both PCB and PWB are subsets of the more generic
term Printed Board.
PWBs providing point to point wiring only, PCBs providing printed circuit
elements.
Printed Board Assembly, PBA, refers to the assembled board with all of its
components.
(although I've also
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