One step better more in keeping with the Fashion... oops I mean Software
Industry would be to use XML. A textural database structure ( for want of a
more accurate definition ).
Cheers
Don Ingram
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- Original Message -
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone
It should be noted that the Protel ASCII format is not only text based,
but
it is self-documenting. All the records and fields are named wherever
they
occur. The library format is binary only, but one could import parts to
a
PCB file and then create a library from the PCB file.
True, but I think the reason for the gripe is that Protel files are not
native ASCII. To get ASCII, you have to export files, an extra step that
has to be done after each change to the original binary file.
I agree with Chris that Protel's native file format should be ASCII. Back
in the days when we were using 286 PCs, the faster and smaller binary file
formats made the difference between snappy and sluggish. Anyone remember
OrCad SDT III where you had to compose and decompose the libraries? OrCad
was fast, fast, fast, but used native binary formats. Nowadays with
stratospheric CPU clocks and RAM sizes, it is less of an issue. The EXEs
are 10 times the size of the board data!
Board data should be native ASCII because years later when someone wants
you
to resurrect or modify an old design, you have data that you can read
without the program that created it. You probably won't have that old
program years from now! Even if you do, will it run on the computer you
have then? I recently read a science fiction book set in the present time
where one the characters in the story printed on paper anything he wanted
to
save for the future. I thought this was hilarious until the next
paragraph,
where he explained that paper records lasted longer than disk data (true)
and would always be compatible with future eyeballs (also true). We have
some floppies from late 80's/early 90's that are not readable anymore due
to
magnetic decay. But we have plenty of paper office records from that time
that are still quite readable!
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message -
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone
At 03:06 PM 7/26/01 -0400, chris mackensen wrote:
because
cadence's files are all OPEN and TEXT based and NOT ENCAPSULATED in a
DATABASE (and NOT BINARY), it was a matter of my perl script just
parsing
Excel sheets of pin data (automatically saved as text files over the
web)
and generating the concept/cadence schematic part as the appropriate
TEXT
files.
It should be noted that the Protel ASCII format is not only text based,
but
it is self-documenting. All the records and fields are named wherever
they
occur. The library format is binary only, but one could import parts to
a
PCB file and then create a library from the PCB file.
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Abdulrahman Lomax
P.O. Box 690
El Verano, CA 95433
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