Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Brad Shea
Daniel, We have had this exact problem on a TO-3 device as well as a couple of similar devices. The easiest way we found to get around it was on the schematic symbol to place the pins (in your case pins 3 and 4) on top of each other. What this does is place a junction on your schematic, this is

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Thomas
You could edit the sch library symbol and put pins 3 and 4 on top of the collector pin. It will show up in the schematic only as a junction when you wire to the collector pin. Regards, Tom. -Original Message- From: Daniel Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October

Re: [PEDA] Export import DXF drawings.

2001-10-23 Thread Thomas
Hmmm... very odd. I've had no problem importing/exporting dxf and dwg files since changing to Protel 99SE and AutoCAD R14. Tom. -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 11:23 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
I do this all the time. I leave the schematic alone, and simply add the extra pads to the nets I want in the pcb tool. Then when I do an update from sch, it generates all these remove pad 0 from net gnd type of messages and I read over them and delete them if they are the pads I added. It's

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
Sorry I replied to the wrong message!! IT was supposed to be the TO3 message. -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:24 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Colors on print preview. I'm having trouble changing the

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 16:00 22.10.01 -0700, you wrote: Hello everyone: I have created a footprint for a TO-3 NPN transistor. The TO-3 can as you may be aware has two mounting holes, in my case these two mounting holes are attached to the collector of the transistor. I have a pad for each mounting hole which I

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
In PrintPreview, go to the tools menu and select Tools-Preferences. You'll see a tab that says Colors Gray Scales Go there and you can edit the preview colors (which can be completely seperate from the PCB editing colors.) Tony -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] Colours on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Stephen Smith
I had this trouble, about a week ago, where the colour of the solder resist is always the same as the top/bottom layer, no-one replied; But I spoke with Support and they couldn't figure it out either, so they have reported it to Protel. Steve -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Loop removal deletes vias in manual route?

2001-10-23 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Muehlberg
Just make the two mounting holes the same pad number. You can have a footprint with all the pads the same number if you like, then they'll all netlist together. Jim Daniel Webster wrote: Hello everyone: I have created a footprint for a TO-3 NPN transistor. The TO-3 can as you may be

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
This question, how to deal with multiple pads for a single schematic pin, has been asked many, many times. There are three basic ways to deal with it: (1) Modify the schematic symbol (a) to add a visible extra pin. (b) to add another pin in the same position as the first. This

Re: [PEDA] Loop removal deletes vias in manual route?

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:39 PM 10/22/01 -0700, Dwight Harm wrote: I have a board that was mostly auto-routed. I'm finishing it up, and find that if I have automatically remove loops checked, when I finish manually routing a net (right-clicking once), any vias I put down in the process are deleted! If I turn OFF

Re: [PEDA] Export import DXF drawings.

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:23 PM 10/22/01 -0400, Brian Guralnick wrote: Importing the .DXF generated from Protel into Camtastic generates a fatal exception error. Unless this is already a known bug, it would be a public service to do as much of the following as possible: (1) save the file that created the

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Daniel Webster
Brad: Thank you for your advice. I have done exactly what you have suggested in other cases and lived with the junction that appears. This still is not adequate though, for it appears to be an error of some kind on the schematic. Perhaps it is the best for now. I am hoping Protel will

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Frank Gilley
What I do in situations like this, is simply label both pads 3 or C or whatever you would normally label them, instead of labeling them 3 and 4. Not perfect, but works well enough for me. Frank At 04:00 PM 10/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hello everyone: I have created a footprint for a TO-3

Re: [PEDA] Test

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm curious why it take 15 or more hours sometimes to get an email distributed on this list? I sent emails yesterday evening that are just showing up today. (and one of them still hasn't made it yet) Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message:

[PEDA] Urgent help needed

2001-10-23 Thread M. Wahab
Hi, I was updating from a pcb library a footprint of a BGA component, however, the component disappeared completely. What went wrong? is there anyway to recover? It doesn't accept undo, and it's very difficult to position a new BGA footprint in place of the disappeared one. Back up is

[PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?

2001-10-23 Thread Cliff Ober
I'm working with some large devices (500 pins), and I'm interested in representing the schematic symbols as hetero type devices (split representations of the parts into logical blocks). Is there any efficient way to do this in '99SE? I don't seem to find any references to this in the help or

Re: [PEDA] Loop removal deletes vias in manual route?

2001-10-23 Thread Dwight
Steve -- I'm not using * to switch layers, but my own hotkey (I have no keypad) set to the same settings as *, and it does NOT automatically insert vias. END (redraw) doesn't show the vias. I'm working with Protel support to see if we can figure this out I'll report our findings...

[PEDA] Fw: Fw: THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!

2001-10-23 Thread Roy Frazier
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Re: [PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Bennett
Cliff Ober wrote: I'm working with some large devices (500 pins), and I'm interested in representing the schematic symbols as hetero type devices (split representations of the parts into logical blocks). Is there any efficient way to do this in '99SE? I don't seem to find any references to

Re: [PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?

2001-10-23 Thread Shuping Lew
The problem I ran into is designator annotation when different kind of graphic multi-part component is made. Protel can not identify which parts are belong to the same component. It will go U1A, U1B...then U2A, U2B...Sometime it brings in the wrong part. Any work around? Thanks. Susan Quintron

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Fw: THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!

2001-10-23 Thread Samuel Cox \Sam\
Right On Well put At 12:21 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ;

Re: [PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?

2001-10-23 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 13:42 23.10.01 -0700, you wrote: The problem I ran into is designator annotation when different kind of graphic multi-part component is made. Protel can not identify which parts are belong to the same component. It will go U1A, U1B...then U2A, U2B...Sometime it brings in the wrong part. Any

[PEDA] Library/Makro help

2001-10-23 Thread Edi Im Hof
Hi all As it is not possible to find out from witch library a schematic part came from, I'd like to place this information into the library fields. Library field 1 would hold the database name (e.g. National.ddb) and library field 2 the schematic library name (e.g. NS Continous Voltage

Re: [PEDA] Urgent help needed

2001-10-23 Thread Daniel Webster
Wahab: If you check in your Protel backup directory on your harddisk, you will likely find a backup of the library where your BGA footprint existed. Rename the backup file to a .LIB name and open in Protel to see if your old footprint is there. Daniel -Original Message- From: M. Wahab

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Fw: THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!

2001-10-23 Thread Robert Ritchey

[PEDA] Political messages (Ex: THIS SAYS IT ALL)

2001-10-23 Thread Ian Wilson
I, for one, did not need to know about this stuff. This is a Protel list and not a political forum. Why would international readers wish to know about this stuff? I would prefer you kept it to your self. My opinion of course, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Urgent help needed

2001-10-23 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:06 PM 23/10/2001 -0400, M. Wahab said: Hi, I was updating from a pcb library a footprint of a BGA component, however, the component disappeared completely. This sounds odd. Was there anything unusual about the footprint? How did you do the update, by pressing Update PCB from

Re: [PEDA] Library/Makro help

2001-10-23 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:18 PM 23/10/2001 +0200, Edi Im Hof said: Hi all As it is not possible to find out from witch library a schematic part came from, I'd like to place this information into the library fields. Library field 1 would hold the database name (e.g. National.ddb) and library field 2 the schematic

Re: [PEDA] Political messages (Ex: THIS SAYS IT ALL)

2001-10-23 Thread Frank Gilley
I agree wholeheartedly. I get plenty of this stuff in my inbox already, I expect this forum to remain a welcome refuge from political grandstanding of any kind. Besides, I happen to live across town from Broken Arrow and the statements are taken out of context at BEST. Being a highly

Re: [PEDA] Political messages (Ex: THIS SAYS IT ALL)

2001-10-23 Thread Dennis Saputelli
BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL READERS WILL BE JUST AS DEAD AS THIS TERRORISM SPREADS AROUND THE WORLD Dennis Saputelli Ian Wilson wrote: I, for one, did not need to know about this stuff. This is a Protel list and not a political forum. Why would international readers wish to know about this

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Fw: THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!

2001-10-23 Thread Mike Reagan

Re: [PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?

2001-10-23 Thread DUTTON Phil
There certainly is Cliff, I have done this many times. Just create your symbol as with multiple parts ('add a part'in the library editor)like you would for multiple gates or op-amp packages. When you place the parts on your schematic, pre-assign them with designators so that an annotation pass

Re: [PEDA] Loop removal deletes vias in manual route?

2001-10-23 Thread Dwight Harm
Apparently the key to the problem occuring is using something other than * to switch layers. From Altium (Protel support): ...I was able to duplicate your actions and results. It appears that it is happening in every Interactive Routing Mode (Ignore, Push and Avoid

Re: [PEDA] Political messages (Ex: THIS SAYS IT ALL)

2001-10-23 Thread Wayne Trow
Ditto Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Loop removal deletes vias in manual route?

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:35 AM 10/23/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By placing vias with P-V, you're actually placing double vias. The manual routing will automatically place vias as you change layers. If you press the End key right after it removes those vias, to force a redraw, I think you'll find that there

Re: [PEDA] TO-3 footprint question

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:20 AM 10/23/01 -0700, Daniel Webster wrote: Thank you for your advice. I have done exactly what you have suggested in other cases and lived with the junction that appears. This still is not adequate though, for it appears to be an error of some kind on the schematic. Perhaps it is the best

Re: [PEDA] Test

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:50 AM 10/23/01 -0700, Tony Karavidas wrote: I'm curious why it take 15 or more hours sometimes to get an email distributed on this list? I sent emails yesterday evening that are just showing up today. (and one of them still hasn't made it yet) My posts usually show up in a few minutes, so,

Re: [PEDA] Urgent help needed

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:06 PM 10/23/01 -0400, M. Wahab wrote: I was updating from a pcb library a footprint of a BGA component, however, the component disappeared completely. What went wrong? is there anyway to recover? It doesn't accept undo, and it's very difficult to position a new BGA footprint in place

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Fw: THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!

2001-10-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I was going to pass this up, but then I had second thoughts. This post should never have been sent to this list, it is completely out of place here, just as out of place as it would be if I started discussing the last election or my religion as anything other than an aside, and even then it

Re: [PEDA] Urgent help needed

2001-10-23 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: (1) I don't know what happened. Maybe that the reference point for the .lib part moved for whatever reason. This can cause the component to be placed out of the working area after update PCB operation. (3) (Good practice leaves track ends coincident with