Re: [PEDA] Short Circuit: Pad/Fill

2001-11-20 Thread Tim Fifield
Thanks to all who replied to this thread! Tim. -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:14 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Short Circuit: Pad/Fill On 04:16 PM 19/11/2001 -0400, Tim Fifield said: I've created an odd

Re: [PEDA] Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Eric Bobillier
Hi Click to the arrow on the left of main toolbar and select Design utilities for acces to compact option. Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De: Andrew Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mardi 20 novembre 2001 14:22 À: 'Protel EDA Forum' Objet: [PEDA] Compacting Design Question

Re: [PEDA] Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Ben Uijtenhaak
Andy, Left click the big arrow from the menu bar and select Design Utilities. In the Compact Repair window there is a checkbox Perform compact after closing design. Checking / unchecking this box should do the job. Regards, Ben Uijtenhaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gatsometer BV P.O. Box 4959 2003EZ

[PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Happy Holidays! Intro: I am running Protel 99SE service pack 6, with Windows 2000. I have problems with Protel 99SE crashing (I export files often, after a crash I restart my computer and almost always do not have to start with the exported file) and AutoCAD 2000 crashing (restarting my computer

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread rlamoreaux
you mean about having to repeat the setup. My one complaint is that it insists on rebuilding all the previews whenever the slightest change is made. You can turn that off by going into tools preference and turning off Perform automatic rebuild for changes. Rob * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread rlamoreaux
I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21 monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index. I have been all over the settings within Protel, as well as all

Re: [PEDA] Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Bob Wolfe
Andy, It's funny this question is coming up now on the forum. I was out for a few. I had asked Protel a few times why my database was so huge, never got a good answer till very recent, and I might add ONLY because I installed on a faster newer machine running NT SP6a. I noticed that on

Re: [PEDA] Removing IP from PCB (Ex: Protel's Good/Bad points ...)

2001-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:16 PM 11/20/01 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote: At 09:46 PM 19/11/01 -0500, you wrote: (This is Design/NetlistManager/Menu/ I forget the exact name, but it is *not* the command that generates a net list from connected copper. It is the other one, that just dumps what is loaded into all the

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Hierarchy Model 4

2001-11-20 Thread ElectronTrade (info)
Hi All, Can I use NetLabels in projects with complex hierarchy? I need to NetLabels for bus. But if I set Net Identifier Scope how Sheet Symbol/ Port Connnection all net in bus are missed. -- Best regards, Yuri V. Potapoff Technical Director ElectronTrade, Ltd. 8 Ukrainsky boul., Moscow,

Re: [PEDA] Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Ben Uijtenhaak
...snip... This was not the case on WIN98. It seems that when installed on WIN98 you need to set this yourself on NT it automatically sets it to compact on close of design. ...snip... I installed P99SE on a WIN98 and a NT4.0 machine. On both machines the checkbox compact on close of design is

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Fred A Rupinski
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel usage Lloyd, Your your comments and perspective are useful and broadening. I hope that you forwarded your ideas and suggestions to

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:34 AM 11/20/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21 monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index. I'm running

Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:43 AM 11/20/01 -0500, Jeff Adolphs wrote: I suspect Protel and AutoCAD are not setup correct somehow. Restarting the computer 10 times a day is a waste of time and is frustrating. I suspect that the programs and their setup are not the problem. Rather, I'd look into the video card/video

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread lloyd . good
Hi Fred, Thanks for the reply. I agree that it is our responsibility as Users to inform and demand that the product perform as advertised. This forum provides an excellent venue for us to discuss what is and isn't working and what the market desires for new revisions. However, occasionally it

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
Great so we're not missing much after all! I wish someone at Protel was assigned to documentation. (And if there is, then the fact I simply wished there were is an indication the job isn't being fulfilled properly.) I understand holes in the documentation exist, but with the internet available,

[PEDA] test - please delete

2001-11-20 Thread Stephen Casey
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Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I have a Compaq IPAQ x86 Family 6 Model 6, 196meg RAM, Norton AntiVirus, Stop right there! The Compaq may be your problem. I had a Compaq Presario 4640 once. What a piece of junk! I swore I would never buy another Compaq product again. Only Compaq would take a perfectly good Pentium II CPU

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Brendon Slade
Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by not showing the splashscreen. Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the section labelled: [System Preferences] insert the

Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Ivan, Here's how it went: I was needing a computer upgrade to run AutoCAD 2000 (I had a old Dell 233Mhz). The IT person says I can get him a Compaq IPAQ for XXX dollars (I concerned I can't get a more expensive Dell, but getting any hardware can be difficult and figured they knew what they were

[PEDA] Special Characters used in Schematic Text

2001-11-20 Thread Brad Velander
Hi all, well I have stumbled onto something that it seems Protel doesn't fully support. Either that or I don't understand how to accomplish this task. I am trying to insert Greek characters as text within a schematic. I have some success with some characters but they are not the

Re: [PEDA] Special Characters used in Schematic Text

2001-11-20 Thread Brad Velander
Sorry to have bothered you guys, I found a way of doing it right after sending the preceeding message. Unfortunatley it is neither intuitive nor completely practical, I typed out the alphabet and then changed the font to see which characters came up and then eleminated the unwanted characters.

Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Jeff: If there is any way you can get your IT dept. to agree to this, do it: 1) Find a local PC shop that also builds, maintains, and warranties Linux servers. 2) Get them to build you a standard white box PC with your choice of CPU, RAM, video, and storage. 3) Tell them to load Windows 2000

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Jon Elson
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 03:35 PM 11/19/01 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: In PCB, you have much more flexibility, as you can change an individual pad, hole or whatever on a component. You can't MOVE a pad or hole with reference to the part, however. While I generally agree with most

Re: [PEDA] Special Characters used in Schematic Text

2001-11-20 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] double double messages messages

2001-11-20 Thread Michael Reagan
Am Am I I the the only only one one getting getting double double messages messages? Mike Mike Reagan Reagan * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: *

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Brian Guralnick
You seem to be describing the SP1 of Windows 2000. When SP2 came out, the lingering Client99.exes was cleared up. But never the less, WinXP will have later drivers the latest support. In my experience, WinXP was identical to Win2000, except WinXP used a little more resources because I

Re: [PEDA] PADS to Protel Conversion

2001-11-20 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Is there any other way I can read this job file into Protel? Also does anyone remember version 2.8 reading job files or did it read ASCII files only? Well, I remember Protel v2.8 just like it was yesterday. And it was, practically. I upgraded from v2.8 to 99SE late last year. Skipped PCB

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Matt Pobursky
I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini file when it closes and removes the offending line... :-( Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:33:21 +1300, Brendon Slade wrote: Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:33 AM 21/11/2001 +1300, Brendon Slade said: Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by not showing the splashscreen. Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the

Re: [PEDA] double double messages messages

2001-11-20 Thread Wayne Trow
Hhii When using Lotus Notes and I reply to a forum message using reply to all with history then it puts the List address in both the to: line and the cc: line. This message will probably get to you twice - did it ? Wayne

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Thomas
Please excuse my blissful ignorance but what is the problem with the XP licensing scheme? -Original Message- From: Mark Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 8:32 AM To: Protel EDA Forum; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows XP I have

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
my cpu vendor said i had latest w2k sp's (about 2-3 months ago) but i still have 'lingering Client99.exes' is there a way to tell my serv pack status in w2k ? i don't want to go to MS and 'update' unless i have to Dennis Saputelli Brian Guralnick wrote: You seem to be describing the SP1

Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread Darren Moore
Ivan, snip My PCs are custom built with exactly the parts I want. My latest one has dual-PIII CPU 1 GHz, 60 MB ATA100 HDD, floppy, 2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, 2 USB, 2 PCMCIA slots, CD-RW, Matrox G450 video (dual-head), Sound

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Darren Moore
Right click on 'MY Computer' and select properties. Darren is there a way to tell my serv pack status in w2k ? i don't want to go to MS and 'update' unless i have to Dennis Saputelli * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said: I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini file when it closes and removes the offending line... :-( Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems Interesting - for me, the DisplaySplashScreen=False line is persistent - and is

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread lloyd . good
Bill, Sounds like the exact type of situation we are in. We have old schematics in Autocad, old pcbs in PCAD and even a few designs in old Orcad. Until recently, we used the same file managment system you describe and frankly I did everything I could to get rid of it. What nonsense it was to keep

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Robert Mitchell
He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel will then change the .ini file back when closing. Ian Wilson wrote: On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said: I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini file when it closes and removes the

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Don Ingram
Make sure prottle isn't running when you edit the .ini Cheers Don - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001

[PEDA] SPICE Documentation - A good Book anyone ?

2001-11-20 Thread Don Ingram
Hi All, Does anyone have a source of documentation that is compatible with the dialect of spice in the prottle package. We have purchased a few texts thru Amazon but have found them to have some major differences with prottle-spice which conspire to make it useless-spice. The other alternative

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Don Ingram
Hi All, It is interesting to see the responses from the Forum. It would seem that I am similar to many others in that we only regularly use the core tools in the package as the rest are rendered useless by either the lack of reliability or the lack of documentation. As stated earlier: Perhaps

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Mark Richards
This thread is getting to be a bit off-topic, but: In regards to Windows XP licensing, here is the link to the official Microsoft information: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/xp_activation.asp To make a long story short, after installing XP, it must be activated by connecting to

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
according to Brian Livingston (Window Manager columnist from InfoWorld who recommends against using XP) the hardware detection/protection is by design very weak he suggests that there will be hacks freely available shortly to defeat this obnoxious appendage he says that if a computer is

Re: [PEDA] Routing in Single Layer Mode

2001-11-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i think it is handy doesn't a redraw fix that anyway? (i can't remember) Wayne Trow wrote: Hi All When routing a trace on a signal layer when in single-layer-mode, parts of the net that are on other layers show. Is this meant to happen? Can I stop it from happening? IM USING SINGLE

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:29 PM 11/20/01 -0700, Mark Richards wrote: To make a long story short, after installing XP, it must be activated by connecting to Microsoft and allowing them to authenticate your license. Additionally, your access code for the license is a 50-bit number which is generated based on your

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Don Ingram
Hi Ian and all, The traffic on this forum would give a reasonable indication of what is being used up until now as there are few enquiries re SIM PLD in comparison to Sch PCB. As this would be difficult to quantify, I fully agree with the proposal to carry out a more formal survey. As for

Re: [PEDA] Routing in Single Layer Mode

2001-11-20 Thread Wayne Trow
Its far from handy !!! When in single layer mode I only want to see what is on that layer - I dont care about the other layers at that moment. I use single layer mode to analysis routing and optomise routing - I do this layer by layer making sure of this such as the shortest routing distances.

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:37:58 +1100, Robert Mitchell wrote: He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel will then change the .ini file back when closing. Nope, had Protel shutdown and edited it with my favorite programming editor. I also tried booting from a DOS disk and

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:55 PM 11/20/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: What do you say, Abdul? If you are willing to do this, and we scream loud enough, Altium might hear of it. Actually, we have had discussions and I even wrote one small piece for them. But mostly matters have been left with an idea that

[PEDA] Line or Track

2001-11-20 Thread Wayne Trow
Hi All I have placed a line on the top layer, 1mil thick and made it a keepout line (in its property dialog box). Why, therefore, it is flagged as a width constraint error when it is a line and a keepout line at that ! Are lines and tracks the same on signal layers? THEY SHOULDN'T BE -

Re: [PEDA] Windows XP

2001-11-20 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:32 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Someone at Microsoft has obviously figured out how much money they are losing because people install their OS on more than one computer. Of course, I won't buy XP with that system unless I am absolutely forced to, and it has not

Re: [PEDA] Line or Track

2001-11-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:08 PM 21/11/2001 +1300, Wayne Trow said: Hi All I have placed a line on the top layer, 1mil thick and made it a keepout line (in its property dialog box). Why, therefore, it is flagged as a width constraint error when it is a line and a keepout line at that ! Are lines and tracks the same

Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access

2001-11-20 Thread Darren Moore
Matt, Strange thing, first time I run Protel after I edit the ini file, it kills the splash screen -- as expected. But if I shut down Protel and open it again -- viola! the splash screen is back and the ini file has the DisplaySplashScreen=False line removed. Could it be were in the

Re: [PEDA] Another Compacting Design Question

2001-11-20 Thread bdm
Jeff Adolphs wrote about his Compacting Design problem. My suggestion is to turn off your on board video and replace it with a separate video card. I have had problems with the on board video before and as it steals cycles from the CPU it can make the system slower. Consequently it also