Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Reply1 MS versus Linux

2001-11-26 Thread ga
I can back that statement, Abd ul-Rahman. Last week I received a mail directed only to me from Protel support concerning the setup of the router. I had not turned to them directly; they had been reading my postings on this thread. Regards, Gisbert Auge N.A.T. GmbH

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Watnoski, Michael

[PEDA] FYI: Protel Crashes resulted from bad extended RAM module

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Thanks to all who replied about my computer: Protel 99SE and AutoCad 2000 crashes, Compaq Ipaq, W2K. From you responses I was able to determine that I had a hardware problem. The IT person suggested taking out the extended RAM module. The computer has been very stable for one day. Today will be

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Please don't forget that other are still getting a lot of use out of 74xx series of ICs and related devices. Right on! And don't forget analog ICs with multiple parts in them, such as LM324, LM339, etc. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com -

[PEDA] router settings

2001-11-26 Thread Mike Ingle
Unless there is some reason not to can the reply be posted so the rest of us might benefit from the recommended router settings? My other question here, is why wouldn't the reply have been posted here in the first place? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Is it possible to create short circuit component (sch+pcb)

2001-11-26 Thread Bob Wolfe
To all, I would tend to agree with Mr. Lomax's version #2 also, this way the DRC is allowed to do its job. We used to do this with Cadnetix way back 8-10 years ago. The only thing with Cadnetix we could not set a footprint specific rule. We made footprints for each trace width required which had

[PEDA] connector footprint

2001-11-26 Thread Tim Fifield
Does anybody have a 99SE footprint for a Standard Circular DIN 5 Pin Receptacle, Right angle PCB mount? Specifically, the part is SDS-50J from CUI Stack. www.cuistack.com Tim Fifield * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * *

Re: [PEDA] connector footprint

2001-11-26 Thread Frank Gilley
I've got one for the 4 pin... if I remember its SDS-40J. May not be much help, but you are welcome to it. Frank At 12:44 PM 11/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: Does anybody have a 99SE footprint for a Standard Circular DIN 5 Pin Receptacle, Right angle PCB mount? Specifically, the part is SDS-50J

Re: [PEDA] connector footprint

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
Yes I think I do. It's not the exact part you mentioned, but 5 pin DIN RA tend to be very similar. I'll email it to you as soon as I extract it from my lib. Tony -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:44 AM To: Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
I just found a little bug. If I export a PCB part to spreadsheet, it works, but if I export THAT outside of the DDB before saving it it exports a zero byte file. Also, if I look at the .xls file within the DDB, it indicates zero bytes until the ddb is saved. So the internal xls file has data in

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Brad Velander
Tony, I ran into that little bug while taking the Protel training in Sept 2000. It drove me and the instructor, who also couldn't figure out the problem, nuts for about 15 minutes. I couldn't export the file that the instructor was trying to have us export. Someone might think that they

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:49 AM 11/26/01 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote: I just found a little bug. If I export a PCB part to spreadsheet, it works, but if I export THAT outside of the DDB before saving it it exports a zero byte file. Also, if I look at the .xls file within the DDB, it indicates zero bytes until the

[PEDA] Footprint 215

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Hi! I used a Protel Footprint SOT-89 (I call it 215 from IPC-SM-782) which gives me DRC errors. The problem is pin 2 has a rectangular pad with a bunch of fills and tracks added to make a big tab. The fills and tracks do not pick up the net name when the netlist is loaded giving many DRC errors.

Re: [PEDA] Reply1 MS versus Linux

2001-11-26 Thread Fred A Rupinski
- Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Reply1 MS versus Linux At 10:24 AM 11/23/01 -0500, Fred A Rupinski wrote: Has anyone seen Protel reply directly to

[PEDA] interactive routing doesn't route more than 1 route at a time before it exits interactive routing

2001-11-26 Thread Mike Ingle
Interactive routing used to allow me to continue on a new route by right mouse clicking. Now it exits interactive routing after each trace. Does anyone know how to return to normal operation. Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Footprint 215

2001-11-26 Thread Tim Fifield
Jeff, Try: Design/Netlist Manager/Menu/Update Free Primitives From Component Pads. Tim -Original Message- From: Jeff Adolphs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:52 PM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Footprint 215 Hi! I used a Protel Footprint

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
I call it a bug. I didn't say it was a big problem, but it's not right. Say for a moment when Protel was contemplating the feature set of P99SE, they generated a product requirements document or product specification. Imagine every parameter and operation were defined properly in this

Re: [PEDA] Footprint 215

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Thanks Tim! The Netlist Manager worked great and did not change a violation short where I connect Ground 1 to Ground 2. Now that I did this I know I have been given this advise before and could not remember it to save my life! I never use the Netlist Manager. Jeff -Original Message-

Re: [PEDA] BOM error was: bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
When I export BOM files to a directory. One of the two files is empty: either the *.xls or the *.cvs. I think that is a bug. Fortunately the file which has data works well in Microsoft Excel. Jeff -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November

[PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Hello! I have had extended RAM removed from my computer thinking the RAM was bad. Computer is Compaq Ipaq, now with 64 meg of RAM, W2K. Day One: no computer crashes. Day Two: three Protel 99SE crashes. All three gave an error window starting with something like: Access violation at address

Re: [PEDA] Footprint 215

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:51 PM 11/26/01 -0500, Jeff Adolphs wrote: Hi! I used a Protel Footprint SOT-89 (I call it 215 from IPC-SM-782) which gives me DRC errors. The problem is pin 2 has a rectangular pad with a bunch of fills and tracks added to make a big tab. The fills and tracks do not pick up the net name

Re: [PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
Though 64MByte are lower than the recommended size it shouldn't crash. It could also be caused by faulty drivers, be it graphics drivers, USB drivers, whatever. Rene Jeff Adolphs wrote: Hello! I have had extended RAM removed from my computer thinking the RAM was bad. Computer is Compaq

Re: [PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Jeff: I have seen Protel crash with similar access violation messages when, during Protel startup, you switch the focus to another application while Protel is scanning files. This happened to me last week. For some reason, the day after, it was healed and didn't do it anymore. If that

Re: [PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:19 PM 11/26/01 -0500, Jeff Adolphs wrote: Hello! I have had extended RAM removed from my computer thinking the RAM was bad. Computer is Compaq Ipaq, now with 64 meg of RAM, W2K. As I recall, this has Compaq on-board video? Day One: no computer crashes. Day Two: three Protel 99SE

Re: [PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Paul Hutchinson
IIRC, the Ipaq series uses on-board video that shares the main RAM (no dedicated VRAM, yuck). Also I think it has no expansion slots so you can't even try a separate video card with dedicated VRAM. Sharing memory between applications and video is asking for trouble with any graphics intensive

Re: [PEDA] QFP program

2001-11-26 Thread Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] connector footprint

2001-11-26 Thread Brian Guralnick
I have for the Right Angle Mini-Din5 - used for audio s-video. Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Tim Fifield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Form [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: [PEDA] connector footprint | Does anybody have

Re: [PEDA] Protel Crashes

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:27 PM 11/26/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: I have seen Protel crash with similar access violation messages when, during Protel startup, you switch the focus to another application while Protel is scanning files. I think I've seen that also. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax

Re: [PEDA] BOM error was: bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Dwight
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed;boundary==_NextPart_000_001E_01C17680.D2A71020

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Clive . Broome
Plus all the 'widebus' type logic IC's. The inability to easily gate swap is one of the reasons people resort to laying the PCB out first and creating the SCH second. Its a cumbersome system in Protel and a backward step from V2.8. Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/27/2001

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:52 AM 26/11/2001 -0500, Watnoski, Michael said: This is exactly where it would be useful, on programmable devices. Pins could wired arbitrarily originally by the engineer and then swapped by the board designer. The completed schematic would be returned to engineer for software changes

Re: [PEDA] interactive routing doesn't route more than 1 route at a time before it exits interactive routing

2001-11-26 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:14 AM 26/11/2001 -0800, Mike Ingle said: Interactive routing used to allow me to continue on a new route by right mouse clicking. Now it exits interactive routing after each trace. Does anyone know how to return to normal operation. Mike This one is really really obvious..you should be

[PEDA] Database Repair

2001-11-26 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Hello! I'm the one having Protel Crashes with the message 'Access violation I have read the Protel Knowledge Base and found I should be doing Database Repair. Maybe the Protel Crashes are related to not doing Database Repair. On two large Database Files the Database Repair could not fix

Re: [PEDA] Database Repair

2001-11-26 Thread Clive . Broome
You could try increasing the size of the tracks and grid in your polygons to a larger value - maybe 30 to 40 to 50 thou. If these primitives are too small it increases the size of the database considerably and leads to unstable operation. Another long term Protel bug. When is a primitive

Re: [PEDA] Database Repair

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:52 PM 11/26/01 -0500, Jeff Adolphs wrote: Hello! I'm the one having Protel Crashes with the message 'Access violation I have read the Protel Knowledge Base and found I should be doing Database Repair. Maybe the Protel Crashes are related to not doing Database Repair. On two large

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:04 AM 11/27/01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus all the 'widebus' type logic IC's. The inability to easily gate swap is one of the reasons people resort to laying the PCB out first and creating the SCH second. Its a cumbersome system in Protel and a backward step from V2.8. I'm going

Re: [PEDA] Database Repair

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:07 AM 11/27/01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could try increasing the size of the tracks and grid in your polygons to a larger value - maybe 30 to 40 to 50 thou. If these primitives are too small it increases the size of the database considerably and leads to unstable operation.

Re: [PEDA] Database Repair

2001-11-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
So why am I putting up with my aging K6-450? Inertia. Not much else. Well, it's always a major interruption to install everything on a new system, get the network talking sense, etc True! This is one on-going problem the PC industry has ignored. As long as they continue to ignore this