- Original Message -
From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Metric problems
I was poking around the website today and noticed this in one of the
'items fixed' in P99SE, SP4:
-Original Message-
From: Danny Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
...
I wonder what conclusion we can draw from any potential
benefits of using a thick trace for a tricky trace, but
thinning it down when required to get through tight
spots?
I suppose that might depend on how one
But, many of the messages that look like they come from some particular
user, actually came from another user who had the first user in his
address
book. There were some submissions to this list, and some to members of
this
Klez and some other virii not only rifle through the address book,
Danny,
I have always been under the belief that if you make a part of a trace/track
thin you might as well make the *entire* trace/track that width. (holding
even more true in power ground runs. in which case the thin run could
almost act as a fuse.?) If anyone can share logic otherwise I would
Glad to know AOL isn't part of the problem! Yes, it can be a pain when
you
are away from home, but the spammers are drowning us in garbage.
Yeah, we get tons of spam too. No, we don't use AOL, MSN, hotmail, or any
of the notorious spam magnets. Typically 50 - 90% of the e-mail to our
sales
Ivan,
according to your profile, you must be my long lost, hereto unknown,
twin brother! 8^
Sincerely,
Brad Velander.
Lead PCB Designer
Norsat International Inc.
Microwave Products
Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line)
Fax (604) 292-9010
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.norsat.com
And your twin sister too! ;-)
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message -
From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT: Spoofed email
Hello, All,
I need to put a polygon plane on the bottom layer.
1. I'd like to set up the clearance of the plane different from the
regular trace of the board, which is 12mil instead of 7 mil for regular
trace connection.
2. I also like to set up the polygon connects to fan out via instead of
that's why in our company we the following policy :
-start with preview pane disabled. This allows going through the inbox
messages and delete the offenders based just on title and sender. I only
open the very few I want.
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-open attachment images
At 11:58 AM 8/15/2002 -0400, Ivan Baggett wrote:
I have been trying to use Mozilla for e-mail also, but it seems to have a
bug that crashes when trying to import large message folders from OE. So I
am stuck with OE for now.
Ever thought about using Eudora for your email?
Frank Gilley
At 10:20 AM 8/29/2002 -0400, Narinder Kumar wrote:
Protel has no plan to run this new Protel DXP to run under Windows NT.
Not a good thing
Perhaps. Perhaps not. It is additional work, certainly, to make a program
function properly under multiple operating systems. Windows 2000 could be
I used Eudora for a while when I first got online back in the mid-90's.
That was back in Win3.1 days.
I'm a cheapskate, and don't want to pay for e-mail software such as Eudora.
Also, any e-mail software that I might switch to must be supported under
Windows and Linux, because I am trying to
DXP not supporting NT is a big problem where I work (Boeing) since we have
_zero_ choice or control over the OS. Eventually, I am told we will one
day migrate to W2000. Our IT group is pretty lame as a result of a
captive customer base and no outside competition. The only thing I can do
Shuping:
You can add a design rule for Clearance (under Routing tab). Select
Object Kind Polygon. Then you can select Whole Board (if you want all
polygons the same) or Net, etc. (to apply to a specific polygon). Then
type in 12 mils for you clearance.
There is a Polygon Connect Rule under
Ivan,
I understand about the payingparticularly since Eudora has moved to a
new license scheme where your money only pays for the software for one
year, I believe.
However, even in free Sponsored mode with ads the ad box is pretty small,
and can be docked in one corner under the mailbox
Shuping,
2. I also like to set up the polygon connects to fan out via instead of
directly from the SMT pad.
I don't know of a way to do this, if I understand you correctly. I'm not
exactly sure why you would want to do this. As Cliff said, you can select
direct or relief connect for SMT
Also, any e-mail software that I might switch to must be supported under
Windows and Linux, because I am trying to phase M$ out.
Very ambitious plan. About when do you expect to have M$ phased out of
your company? ;)
When W2K is no longer sold or supported. At that time, we would either
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Don't you need a Mac to run OS-X on? I'm not interested in Macs. Art
services drive me crazy with their incompatible Apple file formats. Every
time I get some ad art done, I can't even open it on my own PC. Besides, I
can't stand those goofy cases some of the Mac models use.
I take it that
At 04:45 PM 8/15/2002 -0400, Matt Daggett wrote:
Also if anyone is thinking about installing Win2K SP3 better real the EULA
very closely. I basically gives Bill the ability to remotely install/remove
applications/drivers. M$ apparently is on the same path as our govt in
playing Big Brother and
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:45:12 -0400, Matt Daggett wrote:
There is always OS-X for you Unix fans. I have found the Darwin
Kernel (BSD based) to be very stable... now if they could only get the
driver and application support there it'd be great.
I'd love it if Apple ported OS-X to the PC platform.
Has anyone tried to run 99SE on XP?
Thanks,
Charlie
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Yes. It works fine. I'm using XPPro
-Original Message-
From: Upton Charles R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:10 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows XP
Has anyone tried to run 99SE on XP?
Thanks,
Charlie
yes been been running a copy on XP pro since it was released, no issues
whatsoever.
- Original Message -
From: Upton Charles R CNIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows XP
Has anyone
Charlie,
I ran 99se on XP for a while. It really didn't run any better than running
on W98. I eventually had to uninstall XP and reload W 98 after experiencing
3 fatal crashes.These weren't Protel related. XP did everything wrong,
it crashed, banged my harddrive until I found out how to
TC,
Create a blank template for both schematic and pcb then start your design
from the template.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
Hi all,
A few days ago there was a thread on setting up the default.tdb to
set up my default database every time I start up a new database. Is there
a
way to
I will be out of the office starting 16/08/2002 and will not return until
03/09/2002.
I will respond to your message when I return - otherwise contact Owen
Boyle, Nav Kilaru or Mike Birch. One of them is bound to know the answer.
sure just put a board in there set up that way
we use a couple of different ones
Terry Creer wrote:
Hi all,
A few days ago there was a thread on setting up the default.tdb to
set up my default database every time I start up a new database. Is there a
way to change the default
Was your hardware 'approved' to run XP? Did you run that checker on the
MS site? Is it only a year old?
-Original Message-
From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows
Foxmail is (free) non MS email client option. Supports LAN and remote
mailbox.
-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 03:07
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT: Spoofed email address (was: (Un)subscribe!!!)
Joel
I appreciate your thoughts, however I don't think I quite got my reasoning
across as far as my motivation for thinning down a thick trace in some areas
to fit. In this particular case there is one edge sensitive net that goes to
4 logic gates on a board that is otherwise relatively free of
Danny,
wherever you have a change in the inductance, i.e. track width, you will get
reflections. In such conditions yo could get standing waves as well, although I don't
think that working frequencies on your board are so high to be affected by this. Wider
track is equivalent to a broadband
Just to add another note to the discussion..
M$oft just announced that, effective in Sept 2002, none of the Device Driver
Development kits for Win9X, WinNT OR Win2K will be available for purchase or
download.
Now, they are supposed to be moving to a unified driver development kit, but
Hi all,
In Protel 99SE SP6, when first updating the PCB from schematic, I would like
the PCB part designators and comments to take on the Sans Serif font. It
seems to default to the 'Default' font, and I have to then globally change
all the fonts, despite having the defaults in the preferences
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First response, or first helpful response?
Because I think this may be a bug, I can reproduce the problem, but not
recommend a solution.
Sorry,
Tom.
-Original Message-
From: Gareth De Mar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 11:58
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:
Engineering is the art of compromise.
-Original Message-
From: Danny Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 11:58 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint
h... I guess that kind of goes against the theory that thicker tracks =
I've suspected that its a 'small anomaly'. Thank you for your time. Since
you are first respondant, I will dilegently consume (on your behalf!) one
can of regular strength beer, at happy hour this evening.
Cheers again,
Gareth.
-Original Message-
From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 9:50 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Linux and Protel WAS: Spoofed email address
el snippo
And, by assisting with the so called Digital Rights Management
developments
Yes. It runs great.
-Original Message-
From: Upton Charles R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:10 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows XP
Has anyone tried to run 99SE on XP?
Thanks,
Charlie
Do you actually sell hardware?
People don't develop hardware because Bill makes it easier on one
platform for them. The develop it because there is a potential customer
base ready to BUY!!
If the whole world suddenly jumped to MAC, you think companies would
keep writing device drivers so their
Yeah I think it's a bug too. It does 'pay attention' to the designator
and comment auto location, so I know the default stuff is partly
working.
-Original Message-
From: Gareth De Mar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:39 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
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