Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
, but others may. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to install Protel99SE to run on adual boot system?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
and installing P99SE and the service pack should proceed OK and this installation will/should fix up the mess made in step 5. Worked for me. Ian Wilson ___ Considered Solutions Pty Ltd 5 The Crescent, Chatswood, NSW, 2067 Australia Ph: +61-2-9411-4248 Fx: +61-2

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:58 PM 1/03/2001 +1100, Geoff Harland said: - (Pcb Server): Add support for *resizing* of a currently-focused fill primitive using the *mouse*. That is, if you click on an edge or corner of a currently-focused fill, then you can change the location of that (by dragging it with the mouse)

Re: [PEDA] AW: [PROTEL EDA USERS]:BOM

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
stuffing up your service pack installations. Should fix your problem. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: PCB Arcs (Ex: Schematic arc problems)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
deleted from a PCB? In a number of cases where I had this phantom connection I do not recall using arcs in that area but maybe I had. Can you give more details on this please? This would be a worthwhile bug to try to track down. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:09 PM 5/03/2001 -0700, Eric Albach said: There are two ways to delete an object. One is to select it and the clear the selection. Select and clear is the only reliable way to for me to delete an arc. I just tried it and I found no problems using single-clicks to cause arcs both large

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Give up,there is no point (Ex: Confused Newbie on Footprints)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:10 AM 6/03/2001 +1100, John Haddy said: By definition, 1 inch = 25.4mm exactly. This was standardised some decades ago. It's when rounded numbers are used that problems occur. Cheers, John Haddy Off topic a little... But the metre (and hence inch) are derived quantities (variables) so

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:57 PM 5/03/2001 -0700, Eric Albach said: After much fiddling with schematic arcs I found part of the problem and solution. The problem is only with Circles, not partial circles (arcs). When creating a circle using the mouse the default Start Angle and End Angle are both set to 0 (certain

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
. At 10:38 AM 3/6/01 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote: It is a bug - 0 to 0 should either display as an invisible arc or be identical in behavior to 0 to 360 (I prefer the latter). It should not display as per 0 to 360 but behave differently. Both a zero length track and a zero length arc should display

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Representing Distances (ex ConfusedNewbie on Footprints)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:52 PM 7/03/2001 +1100, Geoff Harland said: Using 2/3 of an inch or .67 of an inch, its obvious which one is the more accurate. Maybe fractions rather than rounded decimals used in conversions would allow better accuracy. Clive Broome In other words, rational numbers (i.e. the

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Importing OrCAD Libraries

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
padstacks. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web

Re: [PEDA] Footprints

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:21 AM 9/03/2001 -0800, Phillip Welsh said: I am a new user with Protel. I finally found out how to make my own footprints with the wizard. But I have a three-conductor 3.5mm Phone jack for headphones I can't find the footprint for. There is a figure for it in the schematic libraries

Re: [PEDA] Modifying the Schematic PCB.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:28 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: I though I did direct this email to the developer list. Also, I did not get my own message back like I'm used to. Has the forum email addresses, or subject line header changed? _ Brian Guralnick The forum admin has swapped

[PEDA] Not receiving your own mail (Ex: Modifying the Schematic PCB.)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:28 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: ...snip... Also, I did not get my own message back like I'm used to. ...snip... _ Brian Guralnick There is new capability in the new list servers - one is the ability to *not* receive your own posts to the lists. I was wondering

[PEDA] New server - set tespoint state of selected pads/vias

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
G'Day, The Protel Users file area has a new server. This server allows you to set the testpoint state of selected pads and vias. There is no on-line help so keep this email if you want to use it. (Geoff Harland please don't hassle me about this - you are good at documenting your servers I

Re: [PEDA] Modifying the Schematic PCB.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:04 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to modify the schematic PCB? I noticed on Protel's site, they talk about making a server for the design explorer. I'm interested in adding some additional coordinates to be displayed on the status

Re: [PEDA] ON

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:33 PM 10/03/2001 -0800, Jim Mcgrath said: repro proteledaforum on To get your own mail being sent to you, you must send the request to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (not the forum) with the command in the body of the message: repro proteledaforum on Ian * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Strange behavior on unconnected pins

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
will not get errors as you describe. So a bottom side surface mount component will not be flagged as fouling with a top side through-hole component and visa-versa. Ian Wilson Fabe Guigne International Limited Paradise, Newfoundland * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Copy from/to PCB

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:18 AM 13/03/2001 +0100, Rudolf Schaffer said: Hello, One more time i'm searching for help! -1- I have a prototype PCB1 totally routed. -2- I want to copy a region with connected components from PCB1 into a new design.(with 100% loaded components and netlist) -3- How to proceed?

Re: [PEDA] Protel default Vcc hidden power pins

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:32 PM 14/03/2001 -0800, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 08:29 AM 3/14/01 +, Coleman, Tim wrote: With regard to power pins on multiple part components(or even large single part components like a uP or memory). We create a 'power part' that has just the power pins and any NC pins. This

Re: [PEDA] Use Pad Stack

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
is not multilayer. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
of the odd rounding error - 95.0001mm is near enough to 95.0 for me. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
do me as well. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Questions about upgrading to 99SE

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:13 PM 22/03/2001 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support said: My question is: do I have to install the old Protel software on my new PC before I install the 99SE upgrade? No. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To

[PEDA] Long lag times - anyone else?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
Is anyone else seeing very long lag times? I posted some stuff that is taking hours to get through. Could be my mail server I s'pose but everyone else I have posted to has received it in good time. Is the system going OK for everyone else? I tried the auto-test system status and there was

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:05 AM 26/03/2001 +0100, Cliff Lawrence said: Hi all, Is there any way of storing irregular or custom pad shapes / definitions in Protel. I often have a requirement for placing odd shaped pads on footprints and it would be nice if they could be directly placed from the Place menu rather than

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel and How do you get fill s toassume net

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
designs to a cra. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Creating Assembly Drawings

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
in file size and slow down in redraw. Everything would be exported as 0 thickness and pads/vias etc would not be filled (just arcs showing the copper annulus and hole size). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Schematic Diode to PCB errors

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
set of libraries. You will rapidly get to a point where you are only creating a new symbol/footprint occasionally. (I use A/K, C/E/B, D/G/S, etc for my sch symbols pin numbers.) Ian Wilson On 04:27 PM 3/04/2001 -0600, Eric Albach said: I've been having minor errors doing a schematic to PCB

Re: [PEDA] Fills marked Keepout

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the PCB edge onto the used plane layers (see Paste Special command) and fatten up to say 50 mils is usually enough. Deal with any special features such as break-off tabs etc to ensure the copper plane is pulled back from them. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:50 AM 6/04/2001 +0200, Aalt Lokhorst said: Ian Wrote: Hello Ian, Now I understand what you mean. I see the 'hooroo' greeting as long as i can remember so i was wondering how it was possible that such an Protel expert did not know about the redraw 'End' key. I should know better before

[PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
are heading into unknown territory. Protel have been informed and can replicate the issue. Hopefully this will be a SP7 fix. hooroo, Ian Wilson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave

Re: [PEDA] Creating Assembly Drawings

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
made my dimensioning and export-to-industrial-designers life much easier and more accurate. As well as making my mech CAD program fly. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:00 PM 6/04/2001 +0200, Ben Uytenhaak said: Hello, I think this is the solution to your problem: 1) place the pad 2) double click on the pad 3) check the Past Mask Override checkbox 4) enter value higher than half the pads x- and/or y-size 5) click ok If I'm not correct please somebody else

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste (further suggestion added)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:37 AM 9/04/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ian Wilson wrote: On 04:11 PM 6/04/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Solder masks are treated like power planes in Protel. The same applies to paste masks. Anything you place on these layers shows up negativ on the board. Place a fill

Re: [PEDA] Updating footprints in a project.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the magi-handle I think). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Bus nets

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
worth looking into. Personally, I disagree that it is worth looking into - I think it can only take Protel further from improving the visibility of the design. Ian Wilson Considered Solutions Pty Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ABN: 96 088

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:06 PM 10/04/2001 -0600, Gladieux, Jed said: Does anyone know how to create new design rules. For example, I would like to flag instances where component outlines on the silkscreen layers overlap. I got bit by this on a very busy board and wound up with 2 components physically interfering

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
model. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
solder mask width (a bit like checking for internal plane connectivity) 2) Overlay near pads (as you mentioned) 3) others bye for now, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
, does not have the full check mode and it doesn't have the same method of setting component clearance. Anyway P99SE should go someway to trapping your problem. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join

Re: [PEDA] Bus nets

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
a bus entry (just need to sort out the net label text alignment issues). I don't like these suggestions as much as simply allowing busses to support more complex naming or a new net collections entity that interfaced to sch net classes and rules. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] importing DWG files

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the measurement format (correctly). SolidWorks is one program whose output I have needed to massage in the past. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com

Re: [PEDA] Multiple net names - how does Protel pick one?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
annotations to simply document additional information as you wish. I have a question though - how does multiple netnames and a scope of Nets and Ports Global make a sch more legible? Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] two monitors - lack of archive

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
otherwise the archive takes up about 25% more space than it need. In essence there is no archive and even though users have been baying for one for ages and some (me) have done various cludges we still do not have one after much waiting. All other mailing lists I am on have an archive. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Protel Problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
- yikes! Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Schematics to Netlist Integrity question.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
). If they move then they are considered connected otherwise the system has not made the connection. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers

Re: [PEDA] Finding Setting Test Points

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
contract manufacturers. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body

Re: [PEDA] Strange SP6 library file dates

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
library documents contained in the DDB, just the DDB itself. I thought this artefact of the MS-Access Jet DB engine is one reason the DDB file can be a pain for those using CVS and similar systems for managing sch/pcb/libs. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel and How do you get fill s toassume net

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
- in all cases. 2) prevent the autorouter from ripping up copper tracks that are part of a component. (Component copper fills are not ripped up.) Ian Wilson ___ Considered Solutions Pty Ltd 5 The Crescent, Chatswood, NSW, 2067 Australia Ph: +61-2-9411-4248 Fx: +61-2

Re: [PEDA] How do I unlock component strings ?

2001-07-08 Thread Ian Wilson
garbled responses - how you do not end up excessively confused... Ian Wilson At 02:57 PM 9/07/01 +1000, you wrote: Greetings all, How do I unlock component strings ? I didn't even know they could be locked. I am editing a legacy design using 99SE+SP6 (somebody else started

Re: [PEDA] Select Copy Bug?

2001-07-09 Thread Ian Wilson
an option box to control what entities are included in the expanded selection. Maybe maybe maybe...but not by me at this time (anyway), anyone else want a go? Ian Wilson On 02:37 PM 9/07/2001 +0200, Joop Reekers said: Hi All, I stumbled on a problem, trying to copy a part of a PCB design

Re: [PEDA] How do I unlock component strings ?

2001-07-09 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:28 AM 10/07/2001 +1000, Linden Doyle said: OKgot it now! Saving as an ASCII (V2.8) file as per Ian's recommendation but couldn't find the record that corresponded to the locked (or other) attributes. It works if you save as an ASCII V3 format (not V2.8 format) - then you will see all

Re: [PEDA] Off topic / Need formula to calculate F in Mhz Wave length.

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
the manufacturing documentation in existence that means we do not want to monkey will all the designators - just as few as possible. But do not read any of this as saying the bug is not an important one to fix.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
At 02:35 PM 11/07/01 -0700, you wrote: At 09:43 PM 7/11/01 +1000, Ian Wilson wrote: Does sound like a bug - I will await other comments before adding it to the bug database. I suppose someone will try to call it a feature... It's not a bug, in my opinion, but neither is it a feature. The lack

Re: [PEDA] Trace jumpers generate DRC violations

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Wilson
that you cannot be sure the short occurs in the area you want. Since it can't do this I have never investigated if the rule actually works. I for one have been asking for better scopes on the Allow Short Circuits rule since the very first time Protel introduced the rules based system. Ian Wilson

[PEDA] 20H rule, Planes etc (Ex: perimeter stitched ground vias question)

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Wilson
disclosure of the experimental conditions. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[PEDA] The Synchronizer - The Low Down

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Wilson
on this forum some months ago.) You do not need to take just my word for this - http://www.protel.com.au/earticles/design_synchronization.htm Rant mode over and out, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] Which library is used in UpdatePCB

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Wilson
wires here? I do not like adding things to the bug database unless they are clearly bugs. Bye for now, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers

Re: [PEDA] Bug when opening Protel

2001-07-17 Thread Ian Wilson
as it is irritating and it is good to know what the cause is. Thanks, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

Re: [PEDA] synchronizer question

2001-07-17 Thread Ian Wilson
synch'ed throughout the design, I think you will find the design flow much better. If you use the Synchronizer it is important that you make the component matches correctly - the is initially done by designator. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] irregular shaped holes ??

2001-07-18 Thread Ian Wilson
of a nightmare. Congratulations. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] caution with move ddb path

2001-07-19 Thread Ian Wilson
promise I am not emotionally attached to it.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:55 PM 24/07/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: As I stated, I do prefer that we move this discussion to the new list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may prefer but the vast majority if people responding do not want another mail list it seems... Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Test point tenting on side opposite TP

2001-07-27 Thread Ian Wilson
is a huge boon 2) full control of layer and tenting 3) testpoints can usually be located off vias (which one board stuffer has informed us is their preference where possible as it reduces the incidence of via barrels damaged by test probes). Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Wanna see your board from the bottom? (New server)

2001-07-31 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:21 AM 1/08/2001 +1000, Thomas said: Having trouble obtaining the file from the location specified (Host not found). Wouldn't even find http://www.considered.com.au As someone else has reported that it works for them, I suspect it's because our firewall is tighter than a fishes bum. Would

Re: [PEDA] Wanna see your board from the bottom? (New server)

2001-07-31 Thread Ian Wilson
Some things that could be better with the CSFlipView server: 1) Optionally be able to restrict the stuff that is flipped to just the PCB client window. Messy to program as I would need to track when the PCB window is no longer active 2) Fix the occasional bug where having the flip window open

Re: [PEDA] alphabetic pin numbers

2001-08-06 Thread Ian Wilson
for pin names and numbers. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

[PEDA] OT - low temp failure mechanisms

2001-08-06 Thread Ian Wilson
be arranged (if possible). Thanks, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Polygon plane, incorrect clearance around Multilayer pads and via s

2001-08-08 Thread Ian Wilson
think it should work. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

[PEDA] Exporting PCB to DXF/DWG (EX: ddb transfer failure ??)

2001-08-14 Thread Ian Wilson
One point on the subject of DWG/DXF export of a PCB. I find it is best to: 1) Save the file I am about to export (and save a copy to a new name) 2) Globally set track, arc (and string) widths to zero 3) remove heaps of extraneous stuff - like most of the copper tracks which are of no

Re: [PEDA] unselectable polygon

2001-08-14 Thread Ian Wilson
with inverting PCBs. You can find the server in the Files area of the Protel-Users Yahoo site. Link is below but I think you need to be a member of Yahoo Groups to get it. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/CitelTools%28RePourAllPolys %29.zip Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] 99SE crash upon exit

2001-08-14 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:07 PM 14/08/2001 -0400, Bagotronix Tech Support said: Hello, all: I got a strange message when exiting Protel 99SE today. The message is: Program error Client99SE.exe has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. You will need to restart the program. Funny as you were closing it.

Re: [PEDA] Plane vs. Split Plane

2001-08-15 Thread Ian Wilson
being isolated from a noisy digital supply (but at the same voltage) I tend to use a few open tracks on the internal plane to control current paths to keep the analog ground locally clean. All the best, Ian Wilson Bye for now, Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Creating Menus

2001-08-16 Thread Ian Wilson
the specialized customisations can be shared. Yuri, is the article available? Sounds good, Ian Wilson. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

[PEDA] Protel www Site - What's New has gone

2001-08-20 Thread Ian Wilson
in reverse date order - but no luck for me. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Manhatten distance

2001-08-20 Thread Ian Wilson
shortest length possible (direct path). Such a report does not exist. Could presumably be made with a server but it doesn't exist now. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] one or the other

2001-08-22 Thread Ian Wilson
). Not much joy but maybe something for Protel to consider and others to pick holes in and come up with better solutions. Hooroo, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] DRC issue

2001-08-22 Thread Ian Wilson
telling Protel to deal correctly with single pin nets. Ian Wilson On 12:20 PM 22/08/2001 -0500, Ken Pelic said: Protel EDA forum members, In a P99SE design currently being wrapped up, we have a DRC error that is something we want to do that generates an error we would like to not get flagged. It would

Re: [PEDA] Updating Sheet Symbols

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:19 PM 23/08/2001 -0700, John Williams said: Take a look at: http://www.aspiring-technology.com/prt_xrf.html John Williams Brian Guralnick wrote: I remember once awhile back, an automated sheet entry generator server was once mentioned in this news group. Perhaps somebody

Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group

2001-08-26 Thread Ian Wilson
and sits back and watches) directed to US users... Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group

2001-08-28 Thread Ian Wilson
PROTECTED] and seeing where it gets me if the direct approach gets nowhere. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group

2001-08-28 Thread Ian Wilson
would arrive. I did not subscribe, I do not want it, it is spam. I agree (from now) with AJ - lets take this to another list. But I for have requested justification for their actions and will be chasing their upstream providers. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Non-schematic board components Sync

2001-08-29 Thread Ian Wilson
At the bottom of this message you should be able to get the answers in the thread. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list

Re: [PEDA] nets and ports ??

2001-08-30 Thread Ian Wilson
problems with Protel as you have to flatten the design before xferring info into the PCB.) I would suggest reworking the Sch carefully, to make it one label per net. But as I say others may disagree. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

Re: [PEDA] Process Identifiers

2001-08-31 Thread Ian Wilson
files are compiled from RTF files so maybe there is a tool to convert back. Dunno if there is any copyright/legal issue with doing this though, it may be considered reverse engineering under some weird law... Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Simulation Parameter Sweeps

2001-09-02 Thread Ian Wilson
or there is an form to lodge bug reports on their www site. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto

Re: [PEDA] Creating/implementing IC socket PCB decals

2001-09-04 Thread Ian Wilson
of negative component clearances to allow for overlapping components, I have an yone else want to add a voice Ian Wilson Considered Solutions Pty Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ABN: 96 088 410 002 5 The Crescent CHATSWOOD 2067 Ph

Re: [PEDA] gerber gen troubles

2001-09-05 Thread Ian Wilson
that they had done their job well. It doesn't take much thought to figure that CAM output will typically be generated multiple times in the final stages of preparing a release. I despair sometimes. I am waiting for the day when engineering is really part of software engineering. Ian Wilson (I

Re: [PEDA] Problems when pouring polygons

2001-09-05 Thread Ian Wilson
if a via is at particular (small) distance from a 135 degree corner in a fill. If you find out what gives can you let us know, sounds like another poly bug to me.. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] Diode pads

2001-09-05 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] Not routing nets and poly pours...and maybe a bug for the bug list?

2001-09-05 Thread Ian Wilson
constraint rule and let me know I will get on and add the report to the bug list. I have about 10 bugs and possible bugs to add I think at this stage, all reported over the past couple of months on this list, but not yet added to the bug list. Ian Wilson

[PEDA] Bug List - better implementation desired

2001-09-05 Thread Ian Wilson
hosted is another discussion that will no doubt get a lively discussion going (my thought www.protelusers.net - but that doesn't exist...yet. protelusers.net should no be tied too closely to any company. Ian Wilson Considered Solutions

Re: [PEDA] Bug List - better implementation desired

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:17 PM 6/09/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 09:10 AM 9/6/01 +1000, Ian Wilson wrote: I am searching (part time) for a better method of maintaining the bug list. I am thinking something along the lines of the Bugzilla project as used by the Mozilla people (http://www.mozilla.org

Re: [PEDA] test

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Wilson
be shuffled off to one of the various OT lists. (Speaking of OT lists: there is a smattering of traffic on the OT lists that would be more appropriate on one of the main lists - there is some mail-list confusion out there.) Ian Wilson PS: Just so the admin knows exactly who I am - I subscribe

Re: [PEDA] test

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Wilson
mail to yourself back on. Somewhere on the Techserver forums page there is a user options settings link, I think. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com

Re: [PEDA] Panelise several designs

2001-09-06 Thread Ian Wilson
it is good at. It deals with the Gerbers, so doesn't try to get too smart with rules and layer stack-ups. This is what I'd do, I think, even though I have been panelising in Protel for years. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

Re: [PEDA] Protel Personality

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Wilson
the *99SE.ini files in the Windows install directory. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto

Re: [PEDA] (small unrelated bug found) (ex: Mechanikal Layers are disappearing)

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Wilson
did not try saving and re-opening the PCB file or the DDB. Tech support can do this (they have been CC'ed on this mail). The fix is presumably to improve the ability to check for entities on a layer before allowing that layer to be disabled. Ian Wilson

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