[PEDA] PIN/GATE SWAPPING

2002-03-28 Thread Brooks,Bill
Does anyone know if the new DXP software is going to allow PIN SWAPPING or GATE SWAPPING? Its a feature that I think Protel ought to be able to do... I have not been able to do that yet with the software... Anyone have a 3rd party solution? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. TITAN

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-27 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
- Original Message - From: Watnoski, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping This is exactly where it would be useful, on programmable devices. Pins could wired arbitrarily originally

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Clive . Broome
12:46:00 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping Please don't forget that other are still getting a lot of use out of 74xx series of ICs and related devices

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:52 AM 26/11/2001 -0500, Watnoski, Michael said: This is exactly where it would be useful, on programmable devices. Pins could wired arbitrarily originally by the engineer and then swapped by the board designer. The completed schematic would be returned to engineer for software changes

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:04 AM 11/27/01 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus all the 'widebus' type logic IC's. The inability to easily gate swap is one of the reasons people resort to laying the PCB out first and creating the SCH second. Its a cumbersome system in Protel and a backward step from V2.8. I'm going

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-22 Thread Terry Harris
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:47:17 +1100, you wrote: On 03:50 PM 21/11/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mr. Lomax I would hesitate to let the pcb routing dictate the FPGA configuration. It has been my experience in the past that this can result in disastrous synthesis. I would suggest that unless

[PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Sean James

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Mike Reagan
My best recommendation would be to toss Protel out and use P-CAD. Not a good recommendation from my viewpoint. In 98 I used to generate an ECO report then give it back to the engineer, it worked fine. I think that feature was lost in the transition to 99. If anyone knows how to generate

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread lloyd . good
Why would you want to take a step backwards! -Original Message- From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:12 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping My best recommendation would be to toss Protel out and use P

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Tony Karavidas
Forum Subject: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping Does anybody know how to get Protel to do gate pin swapping? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
, November 21, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping It doesn't do it as others have already said, and frankly I think it's a technology that was useful when 7400 series was more mainstrean, but in the last 10 or so designs I've done, I don't ever recall missing the feature

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Bring back the pin swapping! Gate swapping is not important to me for the reasons Tony mentioned. 'gate' swapping would be handy when laying out respacks - those tiny 4-individual-resistors-inna-0804-package things. It's not much of a

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:48 AM 11/21/01 -0500, Sean James wrote: Does anybody know how to get Protel to do gate pin swapping? Protel does not support this automatically. But it is not difficult to go back and forth between schematic and pcb to accomplish something similar. And with a complex assignment problem,

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread lloyd . good
programming (Xilinx Foundation or fascimile) dictate what pins get connected to what signal. Regards, Lloyd Good -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:51 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Lomax I would hesitate to let the pcb routing dictate the FPGA configuration. It has been my experience in the past that this can result in disastrous synthesis. I would suggest that unless you have full control over the FPGA simulation,

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:50 PM 21/11/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mr. Lomax I would hesitate to let the pcb routing dictate the FPGA configuration. It has been my experience in the past that this can result in disastrous synthesis. I would suggest that unless you have full control over the FPGA simulation,

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread intellasys

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:08 PM 11/21/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Bring back the pin swapping! Gate swapping is not important to me for the reasons Tony mentioned. You can still pin swap, one good way, one not so good way. Good way: edit the pins to interchange the net assignments. Then run the

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:50 PM 11/21/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Lomax I would hesitate to let the pcb routing dictate the FPGA configuration. What I wrote applies generally to any part where swapping is appropriate. It also works for resistor packs, where there is no problem. I do not swap anything

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
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