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From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
offer
I don't think any of us can complain that Protel went
No - Apparently we are not. I purchased 99SE on September 30th last year
(the day before October 1st!), and found out very soon afterwards that I was
NOT entitled to ATS. Altium were very firm on this, even after much
complaining by me. I should add, though, that the Altium dealer here in the
UK
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From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the
Cadence offer
Get ready to bend over for the maintenance fees on $26,000.
Hmmm,
On 08:57 AM 1/08/2002 -0400, Andrew Jenkins said:
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From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the
Cadence offer
Get
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From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I don't think any of us can complain that Protel went the
extra mile and
offered SP5 and SP6 free.
Offered for free? How very nice. I feel really warm and fuzzy
IMO, offer for free, or any other tacitly
I wonder if the software can tell, during installation, which version you
actually had and refuse to install if it's not the upgrade jump you paid
for?
IMO, I think it's a shady business practice to charge someone more for an
upgrade just because they skipped a version. That's the same as
On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:40:54 +0200, Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
My distributor told me yesterday, that ATS was additional to the usual
upgradeability. Meaning you can get DXP whenever you want. The price
increases with the number of versions you're behind. Same as when you
now upgrade a 2.8 to 99SE,
Isn't it the other way round ?
Having bought the last version you're regarded as 'good' customer
and get a higher discount than another one that bought something
10 years back ?
Anyway, it is a decision. Microsoft decided in the case of office
software that there are those who have a service
It's like wanting to buy a new Porsche and you're trading in a 1979 924 or a
1997 911. Do you think just because you want to drive the 2002 model, they
should give you equal trade up? Hey, you didn't drive the 1997 model for the
past 5 years, why should you 'pay' for not using it?
Companies do
Rene:
1) Charging people the same amount for one big upgrade as all the missed
upgrades
2) Forcing people buy each upgrade even if they don't want it
1 is functionally equivalent to 2. And vice versa.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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I agree with you.
The smaller the marketshare the customerfriendlier a
company has to act. AFAIK, Protel, ahem Altium could increase
their marketshare and therefore don't have to act that
customerfriendly anymore.
Microsoft can act like a king.
Rene
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Rene:
Microsoft can act like a king.
King Gates: General Ballmer, how goes the upgrade campaign?
General Ballmer: Sire, the peasants are revolting!
King Gates: Yes, they are. But how goes the campaign?
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On 08:57 AM 1/08/2002 -0400, Andrew Jenkins said:
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From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Get ready to bend over for the maintenance fees on $26,000.
Hmmm, send a
hmmm, at $2K/Yr., ATS fees would pay for this in about 7 years.
---Phil
BTS Isn't that about $14,400 USD? If it's full versions, that's a big discount!
BTS Probably much cheaper than buying Protel 99SE (or DXP) and Specctra
BTS separately.
BTS Best regards,
BTS Ivan Baggett
BTS
Just a thought, but the last time I priced a Cadence Allegro package, the
stated price of $26,000US was for a ONE(1) year license. The low-ball
price may be likewise for a one year license. I would get all the details
before I got too excited.
--Harry
At 04:39 PM 7/31/02 -0400, you wrote:
Get ready to bend over for the maintenance fees on $26,000. Hmmm, send a kid
to college, or...
You know with all the bitching that goes on around here about Protel, you
guys seem to forget how inexpensive it really is for what you're getting.
With PowerPCB, you pay and pay and pay for every
what is powerpcb?, pads?
i take it you like protel better?
Dennis Saputelli
Tony Karavidas wrote:
Get ready to bend over for the maintenance fees on $26,000. Hmmm, send a kid
to college, or...
You know with all the bitching that goes on around here about Protel, you
guys seem to forget
Yeah it was PADS, then it was Innoveda, now it's Mentor. It's hard to keep
track, I know.
Yeah I like Protel a lot better. I used PowerPCB at one job a few years ago,
and it found it confining, confusing, un-natural, and unstable.
When I revisit an old board done in PowerPCB, I cannot remember
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