Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-08 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-08 Thread chris mackensen
is not much more than 133MHz) I'd wait for 800MHz busses -chris shoe shine boy assistant bottle washer -Original Message- From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:49 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog

[PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Darryl Newberry
Choosing Tools | Signal Integrity... locks up the Protel session, requiring process kill using Win2000 TaskMgr. There is no GP fault, in fact TM says it's running, however Protel does not respond to keyboard or mouse input or system redraw messages. Any clues on where to begin looking for the

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Brad Velander
., Burnaby, B.C., V5C 6G9. Tel. (604) 292-9089 direct Fax (604) 292-9010 website www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:35 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Darryl Newberry
If I may pose the question another way: Has anybody on the list _actually_used_ the Protel SI package to evaluate waveforms? What was your experience, was it useful in isolating problems? Did you have any issues with configuration or operation? Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Blazie, a

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Cliff Gerhard
: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. If I may pose the question another way: Has anybody on the list _actually_used_ the Protel SI package to evaluate waveforms? What was your experience, was it useful in isolating problems? Did you have any issues with configuration or operation? Darryl

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread John Williams
Andrew J Jenkins wrote: Hmm...here's one for my guru friends to think about. Can one preset process prioritization for tasks called to the NT/2k task manager, and are SI and other Protel processes transparent enough to avail themselves to such manipulation? If so, one might admittedly lose

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Darryl Newberry
OK, thanks everybody for your input on this issue. The list is a really great resource. The reality is I have about 6 board designs that have to go out for fast turn proto this week and hopefully go into a commercial UL/FCC/CE/USB ready product by September. I don't know what all YOU people do

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Mike Ingle
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. OK, thanks everybody for your input on this issue. The list is a really great resource. The reality is I have about 6 board designs that have to go out for fast turn proto this week and hopefully go into a commercial UL/FCC/CE

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Brad Velander
]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:49 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. OK, thanks everybody for your input on this issue. The list is a really great resource. SNIP My apologies to those who have an irrational emotional attachment

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Mike Reagan
works? 2) Since I have to keep on using Protel, should I get a dual CPU workstation? What specs for W2K? Darryl, Get two computers. One to do Sim and routing and one for layout. I started with a dual CPU and it never helped. But two computers work great , the second one can be a low end

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Ted Tontis
Correct me if I am wrong but Protel just started using IBIS models SPK6 for there signal simulation. Ted -Original Message- From: Mike Ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:27 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Mike Reagan
I use Protel's SI tools for controlled impedance calculations. My results have been within +/- 5 % of any of the same analysis we have performed by TYCO, KCA, or other board houses using top of the line Polar Instruments tools.I have a great degree of confidence with the tools, you just

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread rlamoreaux
I've used the Signal intergrity utility and it was helpful and matched what I was seeing on the problem design I inherited. I wish the problem I currently have (1 buffer and 8 or 64 memory chips) could be run in it, but it would be difficult with two boards and a connector involved not to

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Clive . Broome
--- Darryl Newberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/08/2001 03:12:35 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. If I may pose the question another way: Has

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Brad Velander
- 4401 Still Creek Dr., Burnaby, B.C., V5C 6G9. Tel. (604) 292-9089 direct Fax (604) 292-9010 website www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:49 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Darryl Newberry
, 2001 5:08 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. works? 2) Since I have to keep on using Protel, should I get a dual CPU workstation? What specs for W2K? Darryl, Get two computers. One to do Sim and routing and one for layout. I started with a dual CPU